Residency without signing I864

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

This doesn’t sound like an immigration questions it sounds like you are having second thoughts on getting married. Clearly you don’t want to get married - so don’t- she should return to her home country. The purpose of this visa was to get married within 90 days. If she wants to come back to the US she should apply for the appropriate visa to visit.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,370]

2 hours ago, PirateLiker said:

First of all, thank you to those of you who pointed out that both A and B result in illegal status. Does anyone know where it is codified that B results in illegal status? What triggers the illegal status? Is it not having I864 signed by a certain number of days after the marriage? Or a certain number of days after the visa was used?

 

I agree, you can't control everything in life. There are no guarantees. Many times I think I should go ahead and marry and adjust status and let the chips fall where they may. At this point that is still what she wants. I am a terrible person but I do hate the fact that I've hurt her so badly. 

 

I have already given her money for a plane ticket plus 4 months of her previous wages. 

 

I don't need anyone's pity, but I do detest what I've done and myself.

90 days after entry on a K1, she is out of status/overstay/"illegal alien".

[Loren Y 2,732]

See photo below... This is what you do when you really want to be with someone. You man up, and fill out the forms, and FILE THEM after you get married. I just finished up 99% of my AOS packet, and as soon as were married in about 10 days and I have the Certificate, I will send it out. The thought never crossed my mind not to do it. I'll stop at this or I am sure I will end up banned for life with any other comments.

[millefleur 5,037]

9 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

See photo below... This is what you do when you really want to be with someone. You man up, and fill out the forms, and FILE THEM after you get married. I just finished up 99% of my AOS packet, and as soon as were married in about 10 days and I have the Certificate, I will send it out. The thought never crossed my mind not to do it. I'll stop at this or I am sure I will end up banned for life with any other comments.

After seeing that photo and all those documents (had no idea it was THAT much for a K-1), it's so obvious that the K-1 visa is not for people who want to just marry on a whim without real commitment. Wow. Either the OP had no idea what he was in for or he's just manipulative and knew the consequences for her. I really hope she can return to her home country and get out of this mess in time.

[mushroomspore 3,043]

1 minute ago, millefleur said:

After seeing that photo and all those documents (had no idea it was THAT much for a K-1), it's so obvious that the K-1 visa is not for people who want to just marry on a whim without real commitment. Wow. Either the OP had no idea what he was in for or he's just manipulative and knew the consequences for her. I really hope she can return to her home country and get out of this mess in time.

That photo is for adjustment of status, not the K1 visa. But in totality, yes, K1 to green card involves a lot of paperwork. And yes, this is not for the weak-stomached. If OP couldn't handle the responsibility and details of bringing an immigrant over, he should have either stayed single or found an American woman.

[PirateLiker 11]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

Piratelicker:  Please do not marry her.  It is perfectly NORMAL for engaged individuals to harbor doubts and even cold feet at times.  What isn't normal is to proceed with a marriage that in your heart you know is WRONG.  You need to let go of the shame and guilt (and possibly the idea that you've come this far, spent this much etc) and let her go so that you both can pursue happiness.  

 

Yes, you let things get *too far* into the process by even bringing her here with such doubts, and yes, it will be painful all round for awhile.  But in the grand scheme of things you will both be better off years from now for having done what was difficult now.

 

And btw, your allusion to the fact that you live in an "undocumented-friendly" area where she could likely get (illegal) work is patently absurd.  If she had a professional job/career in Ukraine, why would she want to come to the US and do the type of work commonly available to undocumented people?

 

You say you're a "horrible person;"  why not make that untrue now and do right by her by being completely honest and sending her home?

All good points. We have already had the break up talk 4 times. Each time, I feel so terrible that I walk it back. If I had stuck to the first breakup 2 months ago, maybe some healing would have already begun to take place. 

 

She has been getting out and doing some things. She even went out of town with some friends she met for a weekend. This is a rare opportunity for her to visit this part of the world. She is aware of that and trying to make something positive of the situation, which I support. 

 

Meanwhile, we are spending time together and trying to enjoy each other's company. Of course that is difficult too, because there is this cloud hanging over us.

[mushroomspore 3,043]

2 minutes ago, PirateLiker said:

All good points. We have already had the break up talk 4 times. Each time, I feel so terrible that I walk it back. If I had stuck to the first breakup 2 months ago, maybe some healing would have already begun to take place. 

 

She has been getting out and doing some things. She even went out of town with some friends she met for a weekend. This is a rare opportunity for her to visit this part of the world. She is aware of that and trying to make something positive of the situation, which I support. 

 

Meanwhile, we are spending time together and trying to enjoy each other's company. Of course that is difficult too, because there is this cloud hanging over us.

Okay??? None of this speaks to how you plan on resolving this situation. Instead you're still hemming and hawing when your previous hem-and-haw tactic has already caused a lot of emotional damage.

Edited January 22, 2019 by mushroomspore

[K1visaHopeful 2,663]

9 minutes ago, millefleur said:

After seeing that photo and all those documents (had no idea it was THAT much for a K-1), it's so obvious that the K-1 visa is not for people who want to just marry on a whim without real commitment. Wow. Either the OP had no idea what he was in for or he's just manipulative and knew the consequences for her. I really hope she can return to her home country and get out of this mess in time.

He knew what he was in for. This isnt his first rodeo and not his first K1 Fiancée petition. You can see many of his manipulative posts about prior situations if you search or scroll this thread. 

[iwir 337]

Someone please let his fiance know and advice her to cut her loss. I'm K1 visa beneficiary and reading what he's been doing to his fiance is driving me mad. Moving here to the US has made me poor. I gave up my well paid job, sold what I had and spent big amount of money to move here. I totally financially depend on my husband to get by. I can't even buy things I used to buy for myself because we're saving a lot for AOS. I'm downgrading my lifestyle and uprooted my life for a man I love. I would be devastated if I knew all I did for him was just NOTHING and he had cold feet. Thank you for destroying someone else's future by not stopping this madness before it got too f**** up! 😠

Edited January 22, 2019 by iwir

[Ben&Zian 4,397]

Surprised this thread is still open even, turned awfully hostile (and for good reason mind you).

[aaron2020 11,651]

My guess is that the OP was previously married and had to give up "his" assets in a divorce and doesn't want to go through that again.  He asked about getting a prenup before she entered the US.

[Naes 12,205]

5 hours ago, Ben&Zian said:

Let me join 

[Daniela M_______ 409]

20 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

My guess is that the OP was previously married and had to give up "his" assets in a divorce and doesn't want to go through that again.  He asked about getting a prenup before she entered the US.

And he received proper advise at that moment... I mean I could understand that, but then better to find a gf in USA and never get married than to bring a foreign girl knowing the rules and then get cool feet.

[Going through 5,668]

41 minutes ago, PirateLiker said:

All good points. We have already had the break up talk 4 times. Each time, I feel so terrible that I walk it back. If I had stuck to the first breakup 2 months ago, maybe some healing would have already begun to take place. 

 

She has been getting out and doing some things. She even went out of town with some friends she met for a weekend. This is a rare opportunity for her to visit this part of the world. She is aware of that and trying to make something positive of the situation, which I support. 

 

Meanwhile, we are spending time together and trying to enjoy each other's company. Of course that is difficult too, because there is this cloud hanging over us.

Stop playing with the lady's head by continuously walking it back---no wonder you are both confused over what the actual situation is.

Healing for her won't begin until she's actually away from you---bring infront of you every day prolongs the pain for her, and for you.

 

So when is she planning on departing the USA?  (this question went unanswered before)

Surely she knows she only has 1 month or so left before she is out of status and begins to accumulate illegal overstay.

[carmel34 3,531]

Since this (very sad) thread is still open, I'll ad a question that came to mind as I read through it.  Would not OP's actions in this case rise to the level of visa fraud on his part?  He filed for a K-1 with a letter of intent to marry his fiancee, and followed through with the process, even sending tax information to her for the interview in Kiev to show that he would support her financially.  The 129F has a place for him to sign stating that it is true.  Can he now disregard all of that and just let this lady become illegal after 90 days in the US?  Or would her becoming illegally here in the US be on her, not on him?  If someone who knew his name called USCIS to report visa fraud and explained the situation, would they do anything?  Essentially he is causing her to become illegal soon, and that sounds a lot like visa fraud to me.  After the 90 days, with no marriage or AOS, is he breaking any immigration laws by continuing to use her, letting an illegal alien live with him, preying on her "hopes" that it might work out over time?  The evidence on his VJ posts would be enough to show his true intentions are not good.  Isn't he basically using the K-1 to bring girls to the US under false pretenses (to get to know them better?  companionship?  to hold hostage in a sense by leading them on and on and on...)?