Who Else Thinks Their Spouse Committed Marriage Fraud?

[Boiler 43,451]

4 hours ago, MzAllen said:

That makes perfect sense, I fell for the love bombing and actually met my husband's family...

Can you ask her if she'd be interested in filing a mandamus action or class action lawsuit or give her my information please?

Thanks for your response

 

How do either of these relate to the subject you mentioned?

[kris&me 572]

i can not even begin to count the times i have opened and scanned posts when an american is "in love online " sometimes never having met the person

and people here tell them 'take it easy"  " don't rush into a marriage"   get to know the man/woman

but if fact ,  no one wants to hear that but it is said many times

and even if a person marries another american,  it can be for the wrong reasons and one of them is using the other

Please forget and forgive and move on 

and take this as a hard hard lesson to learn because if you don't ,,  you will age fast and none of us needs premature  grey hair

Edited February 24, 2021 by kris&me

[millefleur 5,037]

**Moved from USCIS Service Centers to General Immigration-Related Discussion**

[ThomasNC1988 762]

There are problems with the system but this problem is with the people using the system. How many times have we seen the likes of a 50+ year old obese woman thinking a 20 something aspiring personal trainer from a 3rd world country is in love with them. Then when the k1 gets denied they whine and cry about how the system is unfair. So they get married and and the Cr-1 gets denied so they appeal. Finally lover boy gets his greencard on the appeal because the US government is out of ways to stop this mess. Young guy comes to America, gets his greencard then disappears. *shock* It's not just women getting had this way, it's men too, probably even more so but I don't think they are as quick to get online and admit it. Use common sense and ask yourself if this person had the same means I do would they be interested in me. Then decide if you're okay with whatever the answer to that question is. There is nothing the government can do to stop people being blinded by love/lust.
 

[Unlockable 7,306]

16 hours ago, MzAllen said:

That makes perfect sense, I fell for the love bombing and actually met my husband's family...

Can you ask her if she'd be interested in filing a mandamus action or class action lawsuit or give her my information please?

Thanks for your response

Here is the thing. The government is only going by the evidence you provide them. They DO have methods to help curb marriage fraud. It is one of the reasons why you and other petitioners have to send in tons of evidence to convince them the marriage is real. But the government can only do so much. They do not stand a chance to a scammer lover who knows how to play the game until they get a green card/citizenship. These scammers are so well versed, that they sometimes will be the best partner the petitioner has every seen. We have even seen cases on here of some women having babies with the US citizen to strengthen their case, only to walk away from the relationship AND the children after they get a green card (or citizenship).

 

There is nothing the government can do to expose someone like that.

 

Sorry for what you are going through, but this happens all the time. And we see these cases on here constantly. 

[davidvs 320]

17 hours ago, MzAllen said:

Just wondering how many people were "duped" into thinking they were in a actual relationship, just to find out shortly afterwards you were not....and were essentially used for a green card.

There is a possibility of preventing this from happening to anyone else....if we brainstorm and work together!!!!

Naysayers, please keep in mind that we petitioners spent considerable amounts spent time, energy and money, so be kind. And finally, any negativity is not appreciated here. If you haven't been in our shoes...how would you even know how we feel????

Just wondering how many people were "duped" into thinking they were in a actual relationship, just to find out shortly afterwards you were not....and were essentially by a USC as basically an indentured servant with the threat of deportation or other consequences hanging over your head?

There is a possibility of preventing this from happening to anyone else....if we brainstorm and work together!!!!

Naysayers, please keep in mind that beneficiaries spent considerable amounts spent time, energy and money, as well as giving up their lives in their former country so be kind. And finally, any negativity is not appreciated here. If you haven't been in their shoes...how would you even know how they feel????

 

Immigration fraud is a two way street and can happen to both the petitioner and the beneficiary. I pray everyone on this journey finds the happy ending they are desiring.

[Boiler 43,451]

5 minutes ago, davidvs said:

Just wondering how many people were "duped" into thinking they were in a actual relationship, just to find out shortly afterwards you were not....and were essentially by a USC as basically an indentured servant with the threat of deportation or other consequences hanging over your head?

There is a possibility of preventing this from happening to anyone else....if we brainstorm and work together!!!!

Naysayers, please keep in mind that beneficiaries spent considerable amounts spent time, energy and money, as well as giving up their lives in their former country so be kind. And finally, any negativity is not appreciated here. If you haven't been in their shoes...how would you even know how they feel????

 

Immigration fraud is a two way street and can happen to both the petitioner and the beneficiary. I pray everyone on this journey finds the happy ending they are desiring.

Let's start with simple cases.

 

How would you respond to the not that infrequent situation where people come on here wanting to know the immigration process for people that they have yet to met?

 

[davidvs 320]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Let's start with simple cases.

 

How would you respond to the not that infrequent situation where people come on here wanting to know the immigration process for people that they have yet to met?

 

The same way 99% of all of would...

 

Take a step back, breathe, start thinking with your head and not your heart, and get on a plane and go meet the person face to face. 

 

As a side note, I joined  here looking for K1 info for someone I had never met, the next month that relationship fell apart... 4 months later I met my wife and had my head screwed on much better. 

[Boiler 43,451]

To my knowledge I have not met any of the posters on here, not sure I would say we have a relationship, well I guess I could, but hardly conveys the reality.

[JeanneAdil 6,203]

13 minutes ago, davidvs said:

The same way 99% of all of would...

 

Take a step back, breathe, start thinking with your head and not your heart, and get on a plane and go meet the person face to face. 

 

As a side note, I joined  here looking for K1 info for someone I had never met, the next month that relationship fell apart... 4 months later I met my wife and had my head screwed on much better. 

yes,   so many of the members are intended immigrants and that's why i asked the poster from tunisia if they had even met the American  and the person never answered but asked if there were people from Tunisia as i guess she didn't like what i said

 

BTW to all you who are new to the process ,  if a person gets a CR1 stamp on the visa ,  they can get off the plane and abandon you then/ no citizenship needed

 

But 4 different people have written to me on here and it seems USCs have abandoned them / not willing to continue the process after marriage and the Moroccan has no idea how to divorce and move on

one can not find the woman as she moves so much

one can not sign the divorce papers as it says he lives in Florida and he has never been to the USA 

other 2 i can not remember

 

but,  in truth ,  all of us ,  unless you are an American Indian,  are immigrants and the laws and rules now don't allow people to just come to the USA so many look FOR ANY OTHER WAY

 

i will be very honest now because of our age difference and when Adil says "i love you everyday" and we survive as a couple no one is more shocked than me because i was afraid of a committment.     and one day he says (out of the blue)  i am so happy i married you as u are so easy going

Edited February 24, 2021 by JeanneAdil

[Carpe Vinum 2,310]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

To my knowledge I have not met any of the posters on here, not sure I would say we have a relationship, well I guess I could, but hardly conveys the reality.

Yes, I am always a little surprised at the pushback I get sometimes for the observation that you don't have an actual relationship until you meet in person.

[mushroomspore 3,043]

6 minutes ago, boris64 said:

Yes, I am always a little surprised at the pushback I get sometimes for the observation that you don't have an actual relationship until you meet in person.

A lot of people also don't consider the long period of adjustment and culture shock that immigrants experience. I don't have actual stats but I know a good number of immigrants were already here on other visas (I was originally in the US as a student), so we had the luxury of adjusting more on our own terms. But for other immigrants, they only get to visit and then get married and move here permanently. Often both they and the USC spouse are caught off-guard by the intense changes and emotions that come up during the cultural adjustment. Add the pressures of a new/young marriage and it can be a recipe for disaster for many people, even if both were initially well-intentioned and in love.

Edited February 24, 2021 by mushroomspore

[JeanneAdil 6,203]

I have so much to say on this issue and sorry to bore anyone

but this very issue is why USCIS created the DS5535 form to use when they felt there could be issues and a fake relationship

the form does extra security by asking about online sites and cell numbers , etc used by the intending immigrant/  they are able to look into these sites to see who the person is talking to -perhaps scamming.  And people who do this not only talk to USCs but Canadians,  Europeans 

i was once on a penpail site and thought and talking supposely to a couple from Europeto visit me (British cell number) who called me from 'Charles deGaule !!!!!! airport saying needed money as someone stole theirs and a rooster crowed

 

to those of you who do not know it is easy for a scammer to get a friend from Europe to send a sims card and now they have a British or French or German cell number 

so watch who you talk to 

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

17 hours ago, MzAllen said:

Just wondering how many people were "duped" into thinking they were in a actual relationship, just to find out shortly afterwards you were not....and were essentially used for a green card.

There is a possibility of preventing this from happening to anyone else....if we brainstorm and work together!!!!

Naysayers, please keep in mind that we petitioners spent considerable amounts spent time, energy and money, so be kind. And finally, any negativity is not appreciated here. If you haven't been in our shoes...how would you even know how we feel????

Even if you married someone here there is always a possibility of being "duped".  There is no guarantee that any relationship will last.  We as individuals have to know what we are getting into.   Keeping your eyes and ears open and thinking things through  before making a decision.  It can be extra difficult when you start to develop feelings... but love is a chioce.  Usually there are signs in the beginning we ignore.  There are lots of information on sites about getting involved with someone internationally and red flags to look for but at the end of the day you have to do your own research of your love interest.  As others have said spending lots of time in person is crucial to help you both to understand each other.  

 

Marriage is hard!   It takes a lot of work from both sides and is a life long commitment that you both have to be in for.  

 

Good luck on whatever you decide for your future!

 

 

[ThomasNC1988 762]

I had to go check my joined date to see if I joined before I met my wife lol. I don't think joining here without meeting someone is such a big deal. In fact I say understanding the process and what it will take to finally be together before a relationship gets too serious is a good thing. Now for the ones that show up asking how they can get around a meeting requirement or how they can get married remotely that is a little different. I can think of a few reasons why someone would be interested in those things and no ways to talk sense to them. Luckily the US government prevents them from bringing someone to the US in 99.9 percent of cases. So again they are trying to protect both parties.