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Hello everyone,  I am new here and I really need some advise from your experiences. So we have applied for k1 visa and are waiting for our noa2 which is supposed to come in few months meanwhile have planned our wedding in May, everything is set up , not an official wedding just a party with our loved ones. But I've been reading here other people who say that is to risky for the embassy even though we will have the wedding after I get the visa. What should I do? Cancell the wedding ?or applay for spousal visa

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CANCEL.

Or do the wedding in country other than US BUT THEN cancel the K1 and apply for CR1.

 

Do NOT have any "wedding" parties before K1 is issues or before POE.


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just cancel the party and have it later


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36 minutes ago, Going through said:

Depends on your idea of "party". 

 

If your idea of "party" is just going out to a nice dinner to celebrate over a meal together, or a night out on the town drinking with friends as a sort of bon voyage gathering----yeah, no real problem.

 

If your idea of "party" includes decorations, exchange of rings, cultural wear, photos, an officiant presiding over any type of religious ceremony/prayers---big problem.

 

Always better to cancel any sort of engagement party plans and have a reception in your home country AFTER marrying in the US.

 

The fact that you've referred to your party plans as a "wedding" twice in your post leads me to advise you to cancel your plans.

Yes it will be with exchange rings ,photos and cultural wear .etc

 

We also had a big engagement party and we provided some of our photos in our aplication, Will it be a problem to even get the case approved? Because we can cancel the wedding but we are not 100% sure we will get approved. It will be a big waste of time and money. 

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1 minute ago, None11 said:

Yes it will be with exchange rings ,photos and cultural wear .etc

If I were you, I wouldn't do it.  Your choice however, as it's your immigration journey.

 

3 minutes ago, None11 said:

We also had a big engagement party and we provided some of our photos in our aplication, Will it be a problem to even get the case approved?

Can depend on what the actual photos were of.

If you've already had a big engagement party in your home country---I don't fully understand the need for a second one, but that's just me.  

 

It sounds more like you want to have a mock-wedding in your home country presided over by some sort of religious officiant before entering the US...not the best idea, but again your choice, however I'd really advise against it.

 

If you really want to get married in your home country, have the USC withdraw the K1 and apply for a CR-1. 


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1 hour ago, None11 said:

Yes it will be with exchange rings ,photos and cultural wear .etc

 

We also had a big engagement party and we provided some of our photos in our aplication, Will it be a problem to even get the case approved? Because we can cancel the wedding but we are not 100% sure we will get approved. It will be a big waste of time and money. 

Cancel the wedding.  It's a clear violation of the K1 visa.

It's a bigger waste of time and money to get your AOS denied for being married before entering the US. 


It's a bigger waste of time and money to get US citizenship denied for entering the US on a K-1 visa when married.  

 

Compare the waste of time and money on the wedding versus putting your immigration to the US at risk (even after living in the US for years on a green card.)

 

Suggest you research all the horrible things that have happened to people who had weddings before entering the US on K1 fiancee visas. 

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Yes the CBP can deny the K1 visa holder entry if they suspect you are already married.  Since they can go through your electronics and social media these days, its not hard for them to find out. 


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We did exactly what everybody here says NOT to do. So, there is my example of it not only being allowed and legal, but also practical and a safe way to go.

 

Where is all the evidence that the poster can not have a wedding party? He said it is "not an official wedding". That is all that matters. With no legal certification, he certainly could not get a spousal visa based on a photo album.  

 

Seriously people, if you don't know what you are talking about, how about not dispensing legal advice? Do you think it is easy for the couple to make a second round trip back to the old country to hold a wedding when it was doable while still there?

 

Sheesh! We had 350 people come to our wedding "party". "Wedding" does not equal ""legal marriage". Or, show me where someone successfully got a spouse visa based on some pictures and no legal document from the applicant's country certifying a legal marriage.

 

True, consulate officers have the discretion to deny an application due to suspicion of fraud ... so does the POE officer. But, I have not heard of this happening over a party that a VJ poster thought was too big. I do know of others who did a wedding party in the old country before coming to the US to get legally married.

 

my two cents and, like all free legal advice, worth every penny of it,

 

Greg

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1 hour ago, Greg.D. said:

We did exactly what everybody here says NOT to do. So, there is my example of it not only being allowed and legal, but also practical and a safe way to go.

 

Where is all the evidence that the poster can not have a wedding party? He said it is "not an official wedding". That is all that matters. With no legal certification, he certainly could not get a spousal visa based on a photo album.  

 

Seriously people, if you don't know what you are talking about, how about not dispensing legal advice? Do you think it is easy for the couple to make a second round trip back to the old country to hold a wedding when it was doable while still there?

 

Sheesh! We had 350 people come to our wedding "party". "Wedding" does not equal ""legal marriage". Or, show me where someone successfully got a spouse visa based on some pictures and no legal document from the applicant's country certifying a legal marriage.

 

True, consulate officers have the discretion to deny an application due to suspicion of fraud ... so does the POE officer. But, I have not heard of this happening over a party that a VJ poster thought was too big. I do know of others who did a wedding party in the old country before coming to the US to get legally married.

 

my two cents and, like all free legal advice, worth every penny of it,

 

Greg

I don’t think anyone is really giving legal advice, they’re just talking from either experience or from the many VJ posters who clearly got denied a K1 over wedding/engagement party pictures that looked like a wedding was held to the CO legal or not. You can literally search K1 denials & A LOT of it is due to things like this, but people can choose to do whatever they want 🤷🏾‍♀️. Their petition, their risk.

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2 hours ago, Greg.D. said:

We did exactly what everybody here says NOT to do. So, there is my example of it not only being allowed and legal, but also practical and a safe way to go.

 

Where is all the evidence that the poster can not have a wedding party? He said it is "not an official wedding". That is all that matters. With no legal certification, he certainly could not get a spousal visa based on a photo album.  

 

Seriously people, if you don't know what you are talking about, how about not dispensing legal advice? Do you think it is easy for the couple to make a second round trip back to the old country to hold a wedding when it was doable while still there?

 

Sheesh! We had 350 people come to our wedding "party". "Wedding" does not equal ""legal marriage". Or, show me where someone successfully got a spouse visa based on some pictures and no legal document from the applicant's country certifying a legal marriage.

 

True, consulate officers have the discretion to deny an application due to suspicion of fraud ... so does the POE officer. But, I have not heard of this happening over a party that a VJ poster thought was too big. I do know of others who did a wedding party in the old country before coming to the US to get legally married.

 

my two cents and, like all free legal advice, worth every penny of it,

 

Greg

No one is giving legal advice.

 

But what people are saying is that it is risky and could lead to a denial.

 

The only thing one has to do is ask themselves if it is worth the risk?

 

Keep in mind that having a "wedding party" is different depending on country/culture so a "wedding party" for one and a "wedding party" for another are not necessarily one in the same.

 

 

It's just risk assessment.

 

 


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5/17/2017: I-129F sent to USCIS Lewisville, Texas via FedEx Ground Shipping

5/22/2017: Received by USCIS

5/26/2017: Check was cashed; Received text (but no email) from USCIS; case being transferred to CSC
11/17/2017: NOA2 Hard Copy Received 
01/03/2018: NVC Received I-129F 
01/03/2018: Case Number Received

01/23/2018: Embassy Received
01/30/2018: Received NVC letter hard copy from NVC
02/09/2018: Medical
03/19/2018: Interview 
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03/21/2018: Visa in Hand

06/16/2018: POE (San Francisco) 

08/04/2018:  MARRIED!

 

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09/04/2018: Received 3 texts from USCIS with 3 case numbers 

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2 hours ago, Greg.D. said:

We did exactly what everybody here says NOT to do. So, there is my example of it not only being allowed and legal, but also practical and a safe way to go.

 

Where is all the evidence that the poster can not have a wedding party? He said it is "not an official wedding". That is all that matters. With no legal certification, he certainly could not get a spousal visa based on a photo album.

Search the forum and you'll see lots of people who have been denied for doing exactly this. No, it is not strictly prohibited. No, it does not guarantee a denial of the visa or entry at POE. Yes, many people have been denied. tldr: It's very risky.

 

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Seriously people, if you don't know what you are talking about, how about not dispensing legal advice?

Nobody here is dispensing legal advice. That's against the TOS.

 

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Sheesh! We had 350 people come to our wedding "party". "Wedding" does not equal ""legal marriage". Or, show me where someone successfully got a spouse visa based on some pictures and no legal document from the applicant's country certifying a legal marriage.

 

True, consulate officers have the discretion to deny an application due to suspicion of fraud ... so does the POE officer. But, I have not heard of this happening over a party that a VJ poster thought was too big. I do know of others who did a wedding party in the old country before coming to the US to get legally married.

The wedding doesn't need to be legal for a CO to deny a K-1 visa. There are about 4 cases of this happening posted on VJ in just the past few weeks.

At thew same time, yeah...one needs a legal marriage for a CR-1/IR-1 visa. But there is a space between the too of being considered "too married" for  a K-1.

 

Another example:

Another one from this week:

 

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Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

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1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

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1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/17/18: Approved

10/24/18: Green card produced

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

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4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

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4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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2 hours ago, Greg.D. said:

We did exactly what everybody here says NOT to do. So, there is my example of it not only being allowed and legal, but also practical and a safe way to go.

 

Sheesh! We had 350 people come to our wedding "party". "Wedding" does not equal ""legal marriage". Or, show me where someone successfully got a spouse visa based on some pictures and no legal document from the applicant's country certifying a legal marriage.

 

True, consulate officers have the discretion to deny an application due to suspicion of fraud ... so does the POE officer. But, I have not heard of this happening over a party that a VJ poster thought was too big. I do know of others who did a wedding party in the old country before coming to the US to get legally married.

 

Greg

I am curious, at PoE, were you asked about that ceremony? Or were you just waved through? And what would've you answer been if you were to asked about it? As you said, PoE officer has a discretion. The advice people give is not legal, it is merely risk minimization. Do  you want to put your faith into that PoE officers has a good day, well trained, and fair, and would he look at the pictures of elaborate 350 ceremony, shrug, and say "looks like a wedding to me, thie visa is for fiance, not a wife, sorry, here is flight back?" Some people are just not willing to take the chance of that happening, regardless how low it might be in practical terms, so their advise comes from that place. Ultimitaly it is individual decision obviously. 

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3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Search the forum and you'll see lots of people who have been denied for doing exactly this. No, it is not strictly prohibited. No, it does not guarantee a denial of the visa or entry at POE. Yes, many people have been denied. tldr: It's very risky.

 

Nobody here is dispensing legal advice. That's against the TOS.

 

 

Were those denails by CO, or at PoE? To be honest I am rather curious if PoE denial due to "non-wedding" ceremony are relatively common. The OP question states explicitly AFTER k-1 issued, so it would be after CO/Interview phase. 

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