This is frustrating!

[zochu 255]

I don’t know where to submit this so move if in wrong forum or delete if not allowed but am frustrated! 
 

This whole visa waiting game is hard but it has to happen ... 

 

But what makes us (husband and I) frustrated is people who want to enter the US on a tourist visa and just stay because it’s quick and easy. 
it’s the people who don’t do it the “proper” way - the way we are doing it.... via consular processing etc if that’s even the proper way - who knows 🤷‍♀️ 

 

Ive told the same person on FB 1 million times that “wife cannot enter USA on tourist visa with intent to immigrate” ... but they just want a quick, easy way for a “green card” - like don’t we all? Don’t we all want to be with our spouse? 
 

if all due respect to others I really find it hard to also believe that someone went on JUST a holiday and then “circumstances changed” and they just stayed 🧐 no furniture to sell? No rental to cease? No car to sell? I don’t know, resign? Do the right thing and give your 2 weeks notice? Get all your belongings? End your life in your home country before you make a new life? 

 

this is really frustrating to see. It’s a really lonely process that is just full of the “unknown”. 
 

it is the path we picked - consular processing because (a) don’t wanna commit visa fraud 😆 especially if I want to be an attorney and (b) because it’s the right way? Correct me if I’m wrong. 
 

single parenthood while we wait is hard. Lonely and hard and yes a consequence of our actions still lonely nonetheless. 
 

 

😞

 

 

 

 

[SalishSea 16,774]

10 minutes ago, zochu said:

I don’t know where to submit this so move if in wrong forum or delete if not allowed but am frustrated! 
 

This whole visa waiting game is hard but it has to happen ... 

 

But what makes us (husband and I) frustrated is people who want to enter the US on a tourist visa and just stay because it’s quick and easy. 
it’s the people who don’t do it the “proper” way - the way we are doing it.... via consular processing etc if that’s even the proper way - who knows 🤷‍♀️ 

 

Ive told the same person on FB 1 million times that “wife cannot enter USA on tourist visa with intent to immigrate” ... but they just want a quick, easy way for a “green card” - like don’t we all? Don’t we all want to be with our spouse? 
 

if all due respect to others I really find it hard to also believe that someone went on JUST a holiday and then “circumstances changed” and they just stayed 🧐 no furniture to sell? No rental to cease? No car to sell? I don’t know, resign? Do the right thing and give your 2 weeks notice? Get all your belongings? End your life in your home country before you make a new life? 

 

this is really frustrating to see. It’s a really lonely process that is just full of the “unknown”. 
 

it is the path we picked - consular processing because (a) don’t wanna commit visa fraud 😆 especially if I want to be an attorney and (b) because it’s the right way? Correct me if I’m wrong. 
 

single parenthood while we wait is hard. Lonely and hard and yes a consequence of our actions still lonely nonetheless. 
 

 

😞

 

 

 

 

Watch out the “spontaneous decision/intent at POE” faction will come after you for your post 😉

 

I hear you though.   There are reports of CBP increasingly reading the phones of NIV travelers who deny immigrant/work intent at POE, and finding that they do in fact have such plans.  So things are changing.

 

It is funny how many here who have spontaneously adjusted from NIVs cite that they just couldn’t bear to be apart any longer.....   as if those who petition and join the queue can?!

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

YOU VENT GIRL! 100% Agree, 

 

Its totally frustrating, and I’d go as far to say that I hope one day they get rid of the whole ESTA/B2 AOS process or at the very least make it so that it applies to emergency situations only that are well documented by independent third parties e.g. medical emergency

 

It would be nice if for those that just so conveniently “change their mind about going home” had to go through a process that take 5 times longer than consular processing, it would serve as a big put off for those considering jumping the line.. yes you’ll get to be with your loved one but you can wait 5 years to be legal for the pleasure.. 

 

mean yes, satisfying, totally 😂

[zochu 255]

2 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Watch out the “spontaneous decision/intent at POE” faction will come after you for your post 😉

 

I hear you though.   There are reports of CBP increasingly reading the phones of NIV travelers who deny immigrant/work intent at POE, and finding that they do in fact have such plans.  So things are changing.

 

It is funny how many here who have spontaneously adjusted from NIVs cite that they just couldn’t bear to be apart any longer.....   as if those who petition and join the queue can?!

oh bring it 🤣 

 

I really do hope there is some change! I understand we all want to be with out spouse, it’s just somewhat deflating when you’re doing it the “proper” way whilst others are impatient! 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

YOU VENT GIRL! 100% Agree, 

 

Its totally frustrating, and I’d go as far to say that I hope one day they get rid of the whole ESTA/B2 AOS process or at the very least make it so that it applies to emergency situations only that are well documented by independent third parties e.g. medical emergency

 

It would be nice if for those that just so conveniently “change their mind about going home” had to go through a process that take 5 times longer than consular processing, it would serve as a big put off for those considering jumping the line.. yes you’ll get to be with your loved one but you can wait 5 years to be legal for the pleasure.. 

 

mean yes, satisfying, totally 😂

 

I think removing the AOS in some cases might be a way to go - but I’m saying that as someone who is doing it via CP. 

 

they should have visa conditions on tourist visas like they do here - that would prevent this AOS on a tourist visa thing!
 

 

as you can tell I’m slowly going insane waiting for the i130 approval and I’m missing my husband terribly- wish he wanted to stay here 

Edited February 21, 2020 by zochu

[Dashinka 23,247]

1 hour ago, Duke & Marie said:

YOU VENT GIRL! 100% Agree, 

 

Its totally frustrating, and I’d go as far to say that I hope one day they get rid of the whole ESTA/B2 AOS process or at the very least make it so that it applies to emergency situations only that are well documented by independent third parties e.g. medical emergency

 

It would be nice if for those that just so conveniently “change their mind about going home” had to go through a process that take 5 times longer than consular processing, it would serve as a big put off for those considering jumping the line.. yes you’ll get to be with your loved one but you can wait 5 years to be legal for the pleasure.. 

 

mean yes, satisfying, totally 😂

I completely agree.  Just like DCF now is pretty much only allowed in exceptional circumstances, AOS on an NIV should be severely restricted similarly.

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

41 minutes ago, zochu said:

 

as you can tell I’m slowly going insane waiting for the i130 approval and I’m missing my husband terribly- wish he wanted to stay here 

Feeling you hun, hang in there, focus on baby, uni and keeping the mind busy.. 🤗🤗

[OrihimeandIchigo 216]

I agree it is super upsetting and frustrating to those of us who have waited all this time and are doing things the legal right way.

[Oliversmom 250]

100% agree.  I am always saying SURE those people just suddenly came  through and had a sudden change of circumstances.  Like you said - they didn't have a life to go back and settle?  No of course not - because they already did that before they came over knowing they were going to stay.  Really hope the ability to AOS from tourist visa/ESTA goes away.

[OrihimeandIchigo 216]

4 minutes ago, Oliversmom said:

100% agree.  I am always saying SURE those people just suddenly came  through and had a sudden change of circumstances.  Like you said - they didn't have a life to go back and settle?  No of course not - because they already did that before they came over knowing they were going to stay.  Really hope the ability to AOS from tourist visa/ESTA goes away.

I just dont see how thats legal in any way to go from tourist visa to AOS. It seems pretty oblivious stupid to me and wouldn't they be unlawfully present waiting for the I-130 to be approved it seems like a dumb idea if you ask me to go that route why do they do that?

[Lemonslice 4,555]

Hey, some of us have been advised by lawyers and CBP agents (yes, plural) to do it.  

 

That wasn't possible because I couldn't stop working, plus many other factors.

 

I don't care one bit if others did, or are adjusting status. It's currently a perfectly legal pathway offered to those who entered with a non immigrant intent.  My personal opinion is that immediate family reunification should be as easy as possible, and I wish more people could be together in a fast and efficient manner - if that means expanding AOS eligibility, or other inland process, I am all for it.  

[OrihimeandIchigo 216]

12 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Hey, some of us have been advised by lawyers and CBP agents (yes, plural) to do it.  

 

That wasn't possible because I couldn't stop working, plus many other factors.

 

I don't care one bit if others did, or are adjusting status. It's currently a perfectly legal pathway offered to those who entered with a non immigrant intent.  My personal opinion is that immediate family reunification should be as easy as possible, and I wish more people could be together in a fast and efficient manner - if that means expanding AOS eligibility, or other inland process, I am all for it.  

So your saying its perfectly ok for some people to have immigrant intent but went over on a nonimmigrant visa and should be able to get a green card and not wait in line like other people doing it the right and legal way, with K1 and CR1-IR1? Hows that fair to them doing it the right way?

[Lemonslice 4,555]

10 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

So your saying its perfectly ok for some people to have immigrant intent but went over on a nonimmigrant visa and should be able to get a green card and not wait in line like other people doing it the right and legal way, with K1 and CR1-IR1? Hows that fair to them doing it the right way?

That's not at all what I said.

 

It's currently legal for people who entered without intent, to then adjust status.  They don't "skip the line", they wait in the line for their own process.

 

I wish it was legal and easier for more people.

 

Do you think someone here for years on a student/work visa, meeting their spouse and having children should be separated from their family? I fail to see how making more people miserable and waiting in line, any line, would help. 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Lemonslice

[Dashinka 23,247]

8 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

So your saying its perfectly ok for some people to have immigrant intent but went over on a nonimmigrant visa and should be able to get a green card and not wait in line like other people doing it the right and legal way, with K1 and CR1-IR1? Hows that fair to them doing it the right way?

It is currently a legal pathway.  Whether it is ok or not of course is a matter of opinion which is what a thread like this generally garners.  I have my own feelings on fairness, but if someone is in the position where doing an AOS from an NIV is an option, I will certainly state that option to them.  People make their own life decisions, but if AOS from an NIV was more restricted, maybe it would be easier for some folks not in VWP countries to get B2s.

[OrihimeandIchigo 216]

1 minute ago, Lemonslice said:

That's not at all what I said.

 

It's currently legal for people who entered without intent, to then adjust status.  They don't "skip the line", they wait in the line for their own process.

 

I wish it was legal and easier for more people.

 

Do you think someone here for years on a student/work visa, meeting theirs spouse and having children should be separated from their family? I fail to see how making more people miserable and waiting in line, any line, would help. 

No I see your point on that. I understand stuff like that happens, what really upsets me is when people go over on a "tourist visa" with the intent in the beginning to just adjust status in US. It really pisses me off because its not fair or right of them. I totally get for students and work visas. Sorry If I came on strong its just upsets me that people think they can cheat or skip the line. 

[Lemonslice 4,555]

I think most people agree that the current system is not the best example of organizational efficiency. 

 

Ideal solution views do vary.