This is frustrating!

[SunflowerSweet 1,321]

2 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

I’ve actually spoken with the op several times before. Her husband was here on a work holiday visa, 

 

difference being, tourist visa is nil work vacation only for up to 6 months.. A work/holiday visa is dual purpose and permits employment for the duration of you vacation for a period of 1-2 years

She should maybe not call it a tourist visa then.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

9 minutes ago, MorganandMichael said:

You can check OP’s profile if you don’t believe me. She says he moved there on a year long tourist visa. Direct quote. So I don’t know what to tell you. 
 

Either way, is it a non-immigrant visa? That he used to move?

 

How is a “holiday” visa different than a “tourist” visa?? 

I understand Australian doesn’t directly overlap with British, but a holiday is a visit last time I checked.

It may be the equivalent of a "working holidaymaker" visa -- I held one myself in the mid-90s for the UK. I was permitted to work for six months under the terms of the visa.

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

6 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

Uh-oh... That's a lot of tourism. Hopefully OP's husband didn't do any kind of work... An Australian year-long visitor visa is a very, very rare thing to get. Normally given to foreign parents of Australian citizens or so, provided convincing evidence of need for such a long stay is shown. 

you’re obviously ignorant of Australian immigration laws

[Nat&Amy 623]

Just now, Duke & Marie said:

you’re obviously ignorant of Australian immigration laws

I don't think so, since I used to work for the Australian embassy myself. If I have made a mistake, I would appreciate it if you could point it out. 

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

I think we all need a little gin/whisky/champagne/Ativan timeout here. It is Friday after all.

[Nat&Amy 623]

Just now, elmcitymaven said:

I think we all need a little gin/whisky/champagne/Ativan timeout here. It is Friday after all.

Agreed!! 🤣🤣🥂🥂🍸🥃🍷

[zochu 255]

4 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

I don't think so, since I used to work for the Australian embassy myself. If I have made a mistake, I would appreciate it if you could point it out. 

No, my husband did not do any kind of work. I’ve studied Australian migration law as part of my Law degree and would not risk him having his visa cancelled due to his “no work” condition. 

I was the sole provider for our family. 

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

2 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

I don't think so, since I used to work for the Australian embassy myself. If I have made a mistake, I would appreciate it if you could point it out. 

“Uh-oh... That's a lot of tourism. Hopefully OP's husband didn't do any kind of work... An Australian year-long visitor visa is a very, very rare thing to get. Normally given to foreign parents of Australian citizens or so, provided convincing evidence of need for such a long stay is shown.”

 

two incorrect statements actually.. 

1) he was on work holiday visa that permits work

2) for foreign parents of Aus Citizens is also incorrect. Extensions apply to everyone under specific conditions, not just our parents. 

 

And anyone one can say they used to work for the Australian embassy, it dosent mean they did nor does it mean in the capacity of an Australian official.. everyone needs cleaners I guess 

 

 

[EM_Vandaveer 2,369]

I can only recount my personal experience. Entered on VWP with boyfriend, a USC (we met in another country, not in the US  nor my home country) to meet his family and yes, possibly get married. 

I was completely ignorant of immigration processes beyond ruling out K-1 since it sounded complicated & I qualified for VWP. (I had no idea at the time you had to file for AOS from K-1, either.)

The plan at the time was enter in June, meet his family, see where he lives, get married if we so choose then both of us would leave within the 90 days so we can go visit the rest of my family in Hungary, my home country. 

What I did NOT realize then but realized only after the wedding was that if I left the country I couldn't come back without going through the spousal visa process, which takes a year.

Having just gotten married, we quickly scrapped the going to visit my family plan and filed for AOS instead.

Visiting my family got pushed back repeatedly, we finally managed it 6 years later. I was a USC by then having gone through ROC & naturalization. We also had our 3 kids by then.

Genuinely no intent to adjust at POE (there was intent to marry, yes, not against the law) until I actually sat down months later & started to learn what the process entailed.

Edited February 21, 2020 by EM_Vandaveer

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

4 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

Agreed!! 🤣🤣🥂🥂🍸🥃🍷

Sitting in my office with a bottle of whisky on my desk, and under it two bottles of brandy, one of port, and four of red wine. I have enough for us all.

 

By way of explanation, my mini-liquor cabinet is here because my condo was tented for termites the other week. Cheers, everyone. 🥂

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

Just now, elmcitymaven said:

Sitting in my office with a bottle of whisky on my desk, and under it two bottles of brandy, one of port, and four of red wine. I have enough for us all.

 

By way of explanation, my mini-liquor cabinet is here because my condo was tented for termites the other week. Cheers, everyone. 🥂

Damn I want a job like you! Lol whisky on the desk, way to go 👏👏👏

[Nat&Amy 623]

Just now, Duke & Marie said:

1) he was on work holiday visa that permits work

2) for foreign parents of Aus Citizens is also incorrect. Extensions apply to everyone under specific conditions, not just our parents. 

1) was he?

 

2) I never said it was only for foreign parents. I said it was generally given to foreign parents. And I wasn't talking about extensions, my apologies if I didn't make it clear. I was referring to visas that are issued with a one year stay permission.

 

Other than cleaners, you know what else we all need? Manners.

 

Have a good weekend.

[zochu 255]

27 minutes ago, MorganandMichael said:

Anyone find it hilarious that the OP herself mentions that her husband 

 

“MOVED TO AUSTRALIA ON A YEAR-LONG TOURIST VISA”

 

You YOURSELF benefited from lax tourist visa rules in another county. How is okay okay for you then but you’re going to act like if anyone else benefits, it’s wrong. From the sounds of it, you didn’t even spend that much time apart during your consular processing? He JUST moved back  to establish domicile.

How did I benefit from “lax tourist” rules? 
 

he was not allowed to work 

he was not allowed to study 

 

we did not “adjust” his status. Further, we complied a really strong visa application for him to obtain a year long tourist visa. his original application for an Australian tourist visa was refused. 

 

he was here in Australia on a tourist visa visiting family (me, his daughter and my family) and being a tourist as per what you’re meant to do on a tourist visa? 
 

He didn’t just move back to re-establish domicile, that is the part we have shared with the public but his Australian tourist visa expired and he didn’t want to stay here permanently and the money he brought over “ran out” and had to move back to the states to pay his bills? 
 

 

 

 

[zochu 255]

1 hour ago, MorganandMichael said:

I encourage everyone to look up the definition of jealousy, it sounds like exactly what you are describing. Being upset someone else has an opportunity you don’t.

 

There are so many worse injustices in this immigration system. I wish you were more passionate about those.

I can if I wanted to enter on my tourist visa and adjust my status. 
 

Should I? No. That’s not the correct process. 
 

 

How do you know what I am passionate about by ONE post? 
 

there are many injustices within the Australian migration system too. 
 

you can be frustrated (or jealous) and you can be also be outraged of those injustices too. They are not mutually exclusive. You can be both, at the same time! 

 

And yes, I have not only studied lawyers ethics but I was the top of my class for that subject too. A feeling of frustration (or if you’d like to call it jealousy) does not mean that someone will not do their job ethically. 
 

where did you get your law degree from? 

[SunflowerSweet 1,321]

4 minutes ago, zochu said:

How did I benefit from “lax tourist” rules? 
 

he was not allowed to work 

he was not allowed to study 

 

we did not “adjust” his status. Further, we complied a really strong visa application for him to obtain a year long tourist visa. his original application for an Australian tourist visa was refused. 

 

he was here in Australia on a tourist visa visiting family (me, his daughter and my family) and being a tourist as per what you’re meant to do on a tourist visa? 
 

He didn’t just move back to re-establish domicile, that is the part we have shared with the public but his Australian tourist visa expired and he didn’t want to stay here permanently and the money he brought over “ran out” and had to move back to the states to pay his bills? 
 

 

 

 

People have been cautioned again claiming they “moved” on tourist visas in the past, I’m just saying it sounds/looks bad. If you can try and paint everyone who adjusts from a tourist visa in a certain way without knowing the facts, you should be able to see how that can be looked at with a negative perspective as well.

 

Either way, I hope you realize how lucky you were that the year visit was even an option for your husband. Even if you weren’t able to stay together with him in the US from a tourist visa, you yourself definitely have been given some options that people from other countries could point at as unfair. There is always someone who has it easier than you, and always someone who has it worse as well. 
 

Instead of knocking down those who had it easier, try being thoughtful about those who have had it worse.