Online Marriage

[ValeZamp 5]

Personally we got married by proxy and we got my IR visa with no problem. But our situation is different because we were living together here in Italy where he is stationed with the military at the time we did the proxy. And we went for the proxy marriage just because he couldn't take time off of work due to deployments.

so I would assume that proxy marriages are fine as long as the marriage is consumed.

i would also assume that Pakistan is a harder embassy to go through than Italy so think carefully before making your final decision.

you can also postpone the wedding to when you will have a Pakistan tourist visa. In the meantime keep collecting proof of your on line convos and whatnot. 

Good luck  

[NBA16 55]

My husband and I had nikkah certificate and legal (it took place in city hall) marriage certificate. Our nikkah certificate was totally useless in immigration process. Also I was questioned why we got married on first visit after 2 years of online relationship. We had 3 visits, tones of pics with family members, 3 big folders of chat history, post receipts, screenshots of social media accounts, same age, same religion and same education degree. Imagine how tough it can be just being married with 0 visit. Interracial and international marriage is difficult by itself. Take your time, search, meet in person and then get married. 

As far as i know for getting married legally in Dubai one of the parties should be resident there or at least has work visa. 

Read this link please:

http://dubai.ae/en/Lists/Articles/DispForm.aspx?ID=23&category=Citizens

We got married in Turkey. I believe Turkey and Georgia are the closest countries to Pakistan for international marriage. 

This link has information about getting married in Malaysia:

http://www.wonderfulmalaysia.com/faq/getting-married-malaysia.htm

Good luck 

Edited September 22, 2017 by NBA16

[jayjayj 571]

7 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

He will have a visit Visa for Dubai he can still Marry me in Dubai and we can apply for Spousal? Because I thought if he had a Visit Visa the Visa for SPousal to US has to be issued from where the Marriage took place?

You can't get married in Dubai unless one of you has a Dubai Resident Visa.  

[Pat&Vince 97]

6 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

No not physically together online Long Distance Relationship. We met online in January. We talk Daily via video, call, messaging, pictures.

 

 

 

Hi there,

 

I really do not mean to be judgemental... but marrying online a person that you have never met physically will raise all the possible red flags available.

 

DO NOT go down that road.

Marriage certainly is a solution that helps with immigration, but before anything, it's an act of deep love and mutual commitment.

 

Your marriage will look legit if you can show that you have spent time together, on multiple occasions, either in the US, in Pakistan or anywhere else in the world.

Other comments clearly show that Pakistan is not a piece of cake. Please do not take it lightly or there's a high risk of hearts being broken !

 

 

You will need to prove a bona fide relationship, a marriage certificate needs to be backed up by a lot of documentation (photos together, airline tickets, hotel bookings, affidavits of friends and family)

 

Without raining on your parade, you need to start collecting those, and also enjoying time spent together.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tilia 75]

7 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

So... Does anyone know if we do meet in Dubai because thats the easiest way considering he can easily get a visit visa for Dubai and I dont require a visa for Dubai and we get Married in Dubai via Nikkah its legal to then apply for Spousal Visa with him still being a Pakistan citizen and me being a US Citizen and Dubai was just the location we met and Married in?

 I think you are very naive. If you were my daughter or sister, I would be extremely worried for you.

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by Tilia

[Sunnyland 639]

My thought for the OP, I know meeting someone online and see you have things in common is great. I met my now husband that way but we did not marry the first time we met and we had been talking online for like 2 years. None of us wanted to rush nothing. In his 3rd visit we started talking about marriage, etc. We wanted to do the wedding in my home country but the waiting time at the courthouse was of 30 days but he could not stay longer than 2 weeks so we opted for the K1 visa instead. 

 

Probably your situation does not allow you to visit this person many times but you probably do not want to marry someone you never met in person. Marriage is a serious thing. Get to know this person better, get more evidence, pictures. Meet his family if possible, etc. Then your case will look stronger in the eyes of immigration. If you marry right there in your first visit, I think there is 98% of being denied.

 

[Auds 223]

48 minutes ago, Sunnyland said:

My thought for the OP, I know meeting someone online and see you have things in common is great. I met my now husband that way but we did not marry the first time we met and we had been talking online for like 2 years. None of us wanted to rush nothing. In his 3rd visit we started talking about marriage, etc. We wanted to do the wedding in my home country but the waiting time at the courthouse was of 30 days but he could not stay longer than 2 weeks so we opted for the K1 visa instead. 

 

Probably your situation does not allow you to visit this person many times but you probably do not want to marry someone you never met in person. Marriage is a serious thing. Get to know this person better, get more evidence, pictures. Meet his family if possible, etc. Then your case will look stronger in the eyes of immigration. If you marry right there in your first visit, I think there is 98% of being denied.

 

Consider a fiancée visa.

 

it will be quicker and sort the marriage issue - I am from Dubai and can confirm you cannot marry there unless one of you were resident.

 

Coming from the South East Asian culture, I can place my money that in a year of living with him the stakes are high that you may come on here telling us you feel used for green card, that you are married to a chauvinist man with severe anger issues and you want out or he has left.

 

i am not saying that's how all South East Asian mean are.  But going by you story and a lot of life experience that is the likely outcome.

 

remember Pakistani men who marry white women going against their families do it for a strong real relationship.  This is not socially okay.

 

if his family is supportive for a woman that he hasn't met let alone they have not met it's likely they are all hopeful for his US dream.

 

I can write a book on here but don't have the time and if you like you could call me.

 

this is too high risk darling.

 

meet in Dubai if you like and although that will not be enough I assure there will be red flags (that you will likely ignore).

 

file for Fiancé visa after ( as I know you are not giving up now).  I will hope for you that you wait 60 days to marry once he is here and hope that you don't go ahead if things are not working out.

 

better still I will PM you.  Remember I am not a social worker and we all have our busy complicated lives to manage.  The only reason we are taking our time out is to possibly help and not to spoil your party.

[Mrs.C.M. 30]

9 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

So... Does anyone know if we do meet in Dubai because thats the easiest way considering he can easily get a visit visa for Dubai and I dont require a visa for Dubai and we get Married in Dubai via Nikkah its legal to then apply for Spousal Visa with him still being a Pakistan citizen and me being a US Citizen and Dubai was just the location we met and Married in?

You may want to go to Seychelles, it is a common place for people to get married and I understand they do a lot of weddings for people from UAE, Dubai..... etc, I understand it is much easier in Seychelles for a marriage, than those countries.   The only requirement is being in Seychelles 24 hours and is legally recognized in the USA.

Best Wishes.....

 

http://www.beenbiz.com/imagethesaurus/forbans/SeychellesWedding_LegalRequirements.pdf

http://www.wedding-in-seychelles.com/required-documents-for-civil-wedding/

Edited September 22, 2017 by Mrs.C.M.

[O&GForever 387]

9 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

No not physically together online Long Distance Relationship. We met online in January. We talk Daily via video, call, messaging, pictures.

 

@aamirnicole, have you met your fiancé in person yet? If you haven’t, either plan (online marriage or married on first meeting) will not go over well with the embassy. Those are both big red flags. 

 

Unfortunately since you’re dealing with a difficult embassy, you have to go above and beyond to prove your relationship. The best way to do this is time spent together...multiple trips and if possible long periods of time. I know it’s expensive and will delay things, but it is necessary to get through the immigration process. (Believe me I spent 2 years and 2 Visa attempts to get my husband here from Ghana.) 

[Pavel1982 104]

9 hours ago, EDurevic said:

Nikkah wedding is a Muslim ceremony, it is not valid in US. Only I believe in New york and New jersey. That wedding is a religious only Muslims get married that way. Its valid by god but not in US so thats exactly what I mean 👌🏻

Nikkah wedding doesn't mean that there is no paperwork involve. In our country (Bangladesh), only certified people can perform nikkah wedding and you get proper paperwork as a proof of wedding which is called  " Nikkahnama"  (almost similar like marriage certificate). Only thing is you have to translate in English.

Edited September 22, 2017 by mrahman14

[Pavel1982 104]

10 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

My Fiance is a Pakistan Citizen and resides in Pakistan. I am a US Citizen and reside in the US. We have been together for over 8 months. I recently applied for a Pakistan Visa so we could Marry and spend time together for 30 days in Pakistan where he lives. I was denied my visit Visa with no reason other than the Visa Officer was not satisfied with my application. We got the idea that we may be able to Marry via Online Nikkah service via Skype of coarse with Him being in Pakistan and myself here in the US. All documents would be legal and official. We then wanted to meet in Dubai since we are having a hard time getting approval for visit Visas. Then when I return back to the US I could begin the Spousal Visa application to get him here to the US. Does anyone have any advice on this or experience with online Marriage with applications? Anyone know if this would be acceptable along with evidence of a bon afide Marriage? Or anyone have any suggestions? Very much appreciated. I wont take no for an answer he is my everything! If there a will there is a way!

 I agree with others on this that making such a huge decision about a person whom you did not meet in person is a very bad idea.Why don't you meet him in a third country (Dubai or another other country) and spend some quality time and make sure that he is the right person for you.Then you guys can get engaged there and apply for K1 (Fiancé Visa) and get married in USA

Edited September 22, 2017 by mrahman14

[Beth & Achraf 328]

12 hours ago, aamirnicole said:

My Fiance is a Pakistan Citizen and resides in Pakistan. I am a US Citizen and reside in the US. We have been together for over 8 months. I recently applied for a Pakistan Visa so we could Marry and spend time together for 30 days in Pakistan where he lives. I was denied my visit Visa with no reason other than the Visa Officer was not satisfied with my application. We got the idea that we may be able to Marry via Online Nikkah service via Skype of coarse with Him being in Pakistan and myself here in the US. All documents would be legal and official. We then wanted to meet in Dubai since we are having a hard time getting approval for visit Visas. Then when I return back to the US I could begin the Spousal Visa application to get him here to the US. Does anyone have any advice on this or experience with online Marriage with applications? Anyone know if this would be acceptable along with evidence of a bon afide Marriage? Or anyone have any suggestions? Very much appreciated. I wont take no for an answer he is my everything! If there a will there is a way!

Proxy marriages are hard to satisfy USCIS. Trust me, when I was brain dead several years ago, and exhausted all hope of marriage in France, my ex and I married proxy, after 9 months of processing at USCIS we were finally approved, not even pics of me holding up a French newspaper with my ex showing date on paper after our proxy marriage satisfied USCIS at first.    Don't do it. It was the biggest mistake of my life. Marry the normal way, face to face.

Even though I had several trips to France to be with him, it was a mistake, and even with those trips being with him, USCIS still doubted our marriage. 

 

My two cents, don't marry someone you have not spent physically face to face time with, internet don't show true character of the person.

Go to Dubai, spend time with him, and if it feels right, apply for a K1 visa. Then you still have 90 days to marry, get to know him first.

 

Wishing you the best.

 

Beth

Formally Paris Heart.

 

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

Can y'all meet in Dubai? There are many Pakistanis in Dubai , I suppose it shouldnt be too difficult for him to meet up there with you.

[bakphx1 785]

A marriage certificate isn't a substitute for in-person interaction.   I think it would instead highlight the fact you haven't interacted in person.  They really look at how well you knew each other before marriage and what interaction you've had since.  To be perfectly honest, and not even passing judgement since I don't know you, but your case sounds very weak.  Interaction before is zero.  Zero marriage contact.  Zero contact after...0 + 0 + 0 = 0.

 

I don't understand all of the people saying the marriage must be consummated...I don't remember seeing that in the paperwork/instructions I filled out for the CR1 visa, or don't know if there's some documentation for it you're supposed to turn in.

[geowrian 22,335]

1 minute ago, bakphx1@aol.com said:

I don't understand all of the people saying the marriage must be consummated...I don't remember seeing that in the paperwork/instructions I filled out for the CR1 visa, or don't know if there's some documentation for it you're supposed to turn in.

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-3481/0-0-0-4484.html

(A) Proxy Marriages .

Section 101(a)(35) of the Act provides that the term "spouse", "wife", or "husband" does not include a spouse, wife, or husband by reason of any marriage ceremony where the contracting parties thereto are not physically present in the presence of each other, unless the marriage has been consummated. (Note: Consummation of a marriage can only occur after the ceremony, there is no such thing as “pre-consummation” of a marriage.)