Constant visitor visa rejection after having baby in US

[Kingmoves 6]

Hello,

 

A friend had a baby in the US 3 years ago. She was given a discount at the hospital for paying cash. Since then she has been refused visitors visa 3 times with no real concrete reason. Anyone know how this can be resolved? 

[Boiler 45,657]

When the child is 21 the child can petition her to immigrate.

[Timona 4,207]

Are you sure she does not owe? I have not heard of a hospital issuing discounts to foreigners.

[mushroomspore 3,044]

19 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

Hello,

 

A friend had a baby in the US 3 years ago. She was given a discount at the hospital for paying cash. Since then she has been refused visitors visa 3 times with no real concrete reason. Anyone know how this can be resolved? 

If they refused her, then that's their decision. There is a concrete reason: she has a US citizen child and the embassy/consulate most likely believes that your friend is an overstay risk. She has to get a different visa entirely. Having that many refusals for the same visa type is no bueno. At this point, any further attempts on the visitor visa is just giving the embassy/consulate free money. And what does the "discount" have to do with the visa refusals??? Never heard of an American hospital being that nice lol.

17 minutes ago, Boiler said:

When the child is 21 the child can petition her to immigrate.

Always love your brevity.

Edited July 12, 2021 by mushroomspore

[Kingmoves 6]

3 minutes ago, Timona said:

Are you sure she does not owe? I have not heard of a hospital issuing discounts to foreigners.

I have seen the medical bill. They gave her a massive discount for paying cash. I don’t see what the other reason for denial could be. They are quite well off and travel frequently 

4 minutes ago, mushroomspore said:

If they refused her, then that's their decision. There is a concrete reason: she has a US citizen child and the embassy/consulate most likely believes that your friend is an overstay risk. She has to get a different visa entirely. Having that many refusals for the same visa type is no bueno. At this point, any further attempts on the visitor visa is just giving the embassy/consulate free money. And what does the "discount" have to do with the visa refusals??? Never heard of an American hospital being that nice lol.

Always love your brevity.

They don’t want to live in the US. The just want to be able to vIsit and go on holiday 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

2 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

I have seen the medical bill. They gave her a massive discount for paying cash. I don’t see what the other reason for denial could be. They are quite well off and travel frequently 

They don’t want to live in the US. The just want to be able to vIsit and go on holiday 

I told you what the reason for denial was: they believe that she is at risk of overstaying. And unfortunately, she's SOL. The tourist visa is the only visa that allows people to just visit and go on holiday inside the US. There are no other visas like that for the US. So it's either she gets a different visa (which most likely means immigration, but depending on the visa type - like work or investor - she would be subject to that particular visa's regulations) or she accepts she has no means of just visiting the US as a tourist.

[Boiler 45,657]

It is common for Hospitals etc to give cash discounts, how massive it was may be a factor.

 

And there is a specific variant of the B that allows medical tourism.

 

I was cutting to the chase with my original comment.

[Kingmoves 6]

Just now, Boiler said:

It is common for Hospitals etc to give cash discounts, how massive it was may be a factor.

 

And there is a specific variant of the B that allows medical tourism.

 

I was cutting to the chase with my original comment.

It was a 75% discount. It was shocking as well. Maybe she needs to pay the full bill and reapply again. She isn’t trying to have another baby in the US 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

1 minute ago, Kingmoves said:

It was a 75% discount. It was shocking as well. Maybe she needs to pay the full bill and reapply again. She isn’t trying to have another baby in the US 

Her paying the full bill has zero bearing in the tourist visa decisions.

[JeanneAdil 6,539]

its not a discount but states have different ways to handle this 

For an example In Tennessee this is the policy :

 

They do not have access to state-sponsored health insurance. ➢ They are ... CoverKids covers pregnant women who do not have maternity health benefits. 

[Boiler 45,657]

11 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

It was a 75% discount. It was shocking as well. Maybe she needs to pay the full bill and reapply again. She isn’t trying to have another baby in the US 

The most common issue is where Medicaid etc picks up the bill.

 

Not the case here.

 

They may think she used her non immigrant status to get a very good deal, take 25% or nothing?

 

They may think she misrepresented her entry, said it was for Holiday for example.

 

Or why she wanted the visa in the first place.

 

Does not really matter which one, or combination or if it was something else.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

She quite possibly misrepresented her reason for visa and/or entry. Birth tourism is not illegal, making false statements to a consular officer or CBP can be trouble. Or she could be considered an overstay risk now as someone else mentioned. 
 

75% discount to a foreigner having a baby doesn’t sound right, but I don’t think that’s gonna make a difference now. With three refusals, she’s going to need some major change in circumstances to get a change in outcome.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

Most hospitals give discounts for cash paying patients

This hospital bill and visa denial have nothing to do with each other.

[Just Paul 4,595]

Her nationality can have a lot to do with it.  If it is Nigeria, or another high fraud country, it is too bad she didn't renew with the dropbox. Did she have many visits prior to the visa expiring?  Does she have significant travel history, requiring visas, in her passport?   It does sound like she is appearing to be an overstay risk to the consulate.   She should wait a significant amount of time before trying to renew again.

[arken 4,197]

When she travelled to give birth to her baby in the US last time, did she mention that was the reason of her travel when asked at POE or during the visa interview? No.

That's the concrete reason you are looking for.