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[belinda63 2,981]

You provided no evidence of a bonafide marriage. This is the problem. 

Where is your wife currently living? She will need to come see you and stay for a while. You will need pictures of the two of you with family and friends. You will need a domicile in the US to move to. You will need to show you have mingled your life such as bank accounts, joint taxes, beneficiary on insurance, etc.

Nothing you provided shows the two of you have a relationship.

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

38 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

All of the points mentioned in the letter from USCIS apply to my case also,

Some of the OP's "evidence" looks contrived.  Always concentrate on quality of evidence over quantity of evidence.........and in a long distance marriage, evidence of time actually spent together is very important.

 

EDIT:  Example of evidence which could be seen a contrived:  An unsigned rental agreement which lists a person non even in the US..

Edited September 1, 2019 by missileman

[geowrian 22,335]

Just now, missileman said:

Some of the OP's "evidence" looks contrived.  Always concentrate on quality of evidence over quantity of evidence.........and in a long distance marriage, evidence of time actually spent together is very important.

Have to 100% agree here. A lot of the evidence provided appears to be created just to tick boxes on a checklist, instead of being specific to their circumstances.

[Teemo 252]

32 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

Ouch... just a little judgemental don’t you think?

 

there are plenty of bona fide relationships that are light on evidence... making your response totally uncalled for and extremely cold..

 

All of the points mentioned in the letter from USCIS apply to my case also, does that make my marriage BS too?

 

Family must actually attend the wedding???? Seriously? My husbands family lives in the US... mine lives in the UK and I live in Australia where we got married does that mean our marriage is BS? 

 

 

What do you think USCIS is doing if not doing judging if your relationship is real? OP wasn't "light on evidence" he had no real evidence, including what is obviously a fake lease (no signatures and its in the US where beneficiary doesn't live). Yes, green card weddings deserve judgement, both here and by USCIS. 

[Teemo 252]

32 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

Ouch... just a little judgemental don’t you think?

 

there are plenty of bona fide relationships that are light on evidence... making your response totally uncalled for and extremely cold..

 

All of the points mentioned in the letter from USCIS apply to my case also, does that make my marriage BS too?

 

Family must actually attend the wedding???? Seriously? My husbands family lives in the US... mine lives in the UK and I live in Australia where we got married does that mean our marriage is BS? 

 

 

What do you think USCIS is doing if not doing judging if your relationship is real? OP wasn't "light on evidence" he had no real evidence, including what is obviously a fake lease (no signatures and its in the US where beneficiary doesn't live). Yes, green card weddings deserve judgement, both here and by USCIS. 

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Have to 100% agree here. A lot of the evidence provided appears to be created just to tick boxes on a checklist, instead of being specific to their circumstances.

Not to be critical of the OP, but I would think competent Consulate Officers are trained to question "fluff".

Edited September 1, 2019 by missileman

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

39 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

Ouch... just a little judgemental don’t you think?

 

there are plenty of bona fide relationships that are light on evidence... making your response totally uncalled for and extremely cold..

 

All of the points mentioned in the letter from USCIS apply to my case also, does that make my marriage BS too?

 

Family must actually attend the wedding???? Seriously? My husbands family lives in the US... mine lives in the UK and I live in Australia where we got married does that mean our marriage is BS? 

Actually if you have checked out his previous posts concerning this then you would see that we did try and help him. We called it along time ago that this would be denied due to the lack of evidence. What might be decent enough evidence for the embassy in Australia more than likely won't fly in Pakistan, a embassy known to be hard. 

 

The OP, his wife, and lawyer basically submitted the bare minimum amount of evidence and thus was rightfully denied.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

6 minutes ago, missileman said:

Not to be critical of the OP, but I would think competent Consulate Officers are trained to question "fluff".

Do you recall that he has posting for a few months now concerning his lack of evidence.  We told him it would look better if his wife travelled to be with him and supposedly she couldn't do it due to some excuse. 

[JeanneAdil 6,197]

58 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

Ouch... just a little judgemental don’t you think?

 

there are plenty of bona fide relationships that are light on evidence... making your response totally uncalled for and extremely cold..

 

All of the points mentioned in the letter from USCIS apply to my case also, does that make my marriage BS too?

 

Family must actually attend the wedding???? Seriously? My husbands family lives in the US... mine lives in the UK and I live in Australia where we got married does that mean our marriage is BS? 

 

 

No,  not for you but in  muslim countries,  it is extremely important to show the muslim mother approves of the marriage 

my mom could not be in Morocco (arthritis makes it impossble for her to travel and use the hole instead of a tiolet) iand my mother in law was in the hospital when we were called to come sign the marriage certificate which meant we were married but we had proof in many other photos that she was with us for my visits and i stayed in her home.   very very important for a muslim.

 

[JFH 12,189]

The evidence has to be taken in context too. We also had no family at the wedding. It was a courthouse ceremony that lasted all of 8 minutes (we walked in at 11 am and we have a photo taken of us holding the ceremonial marriage certificate under a clock that is displaying 11:08 - that’s how we know how quick it was) with just us, two witnesses as required by state law, and the officiant. One of the witnesses was not even related to either of us, just a friend of my husband’s. However, for a British woman who has been married and divorced before (which I have) a small simple ceremony is quite normal for the second marriage. Not one of my family attended. My mother didn’t even know we had got married until the next day. We had been married for 3 years before either of my parents even met my husband. 

 

For a Muslim man’s first marriage, this would be unusual. Big, traditional weddings are far more commonplace in their culture, as well as heavy family involvement. Eloping is not typical there. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by JFH

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

1 hour ago, missileman said:

Some of the OP's "evidence" looks contrived.  Always concentrate on quality of evidence over quantity of evidence.........and in a long distance marriage, evidence of time actually spent together is very important.

 

EDIT:  Example of evidence which could be seen a contrived:  An unsigned rental agreement which lists a person non even in the US..

This...

 

When responding to a NOIR you must give them evidence in response to the points in the letter that you already have.   You must prove that the embassy was mistaken or misunderstood or that something is incorrect.   Joint lease is one of the pieces of evidence listed on every NOIR and USCIS website as evidence (second page but not one of the points) but would not have even been needed to prove the case as the beneficiary does not live in USA.   For evidence of bonafide  relationship that is long distance visits and consistent communication is most important.   The only affidavits that may have helped the situation could have been from the family that could not attend given a valid reason as to why they could not. 

 

Unfortunetly OP I think refiling is your best option instead of  attempting to appeal with evidence you don't have.  Have more visits and work with your LIFE PARTNER on how you can overcome the red flags.  You'll need to be sure to be completely confident before your next interview to be able to answer some of the questions they have with your relationship.  If you both are truly in this you'll get through.  

[SalishSea 16,770]

1 hour ago, Duke & Marie said:

All of the points mentioned in the letter from USCIS apply to my case also, does that make my marriage BS too?

 

Family must actually attend the wedding???? Seriously? My husbands family lives in the US... mine lives in the UK and I live in Australia where we got married does that mean our marriage is BS? 

 

You are comparing apples and oranges.  Marriage-based visas from MENA countries are not nearly as easily had as those from Australia.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

 

15 hours ago, Ahmed amin said:

hey i have sad story  after my interview my case send back to uscis fir review and they send me noir after i aswered the noir my status change to revocation notice was sent  and they give me 30 day to appeal  i dont khow i should appeal or file new case  i went to lawyer and he said we cand appeal and file new case in the same time   this is the letter the uscis send it to me   what shoud i do give up and ask my wife live  to come to me or appeal or file new case please help 

 

Who sends in an unsigned lease agreement and doesn’t even live there?

Who tells an IO that a family wedding celebration was held but no family was there?

Who signs an affidavit of a relationship and never laid eyes on the other spouse?

 

Truthfully, I feel you are very lucky to not have been hit with a misrep.     

 

There is so much fabrication here that I doubt appeal is possible.  Your lawyer is incompetent if he/she filed this garbage.  I’d plan to build a real marriage, refile, and start over.  

Edited September 1, 2019 by Nitas_man

[NYCruiser 423]

17 hours ago, Ahmed amin said:

but the lawyer said he can make appeal and fil new case in the same time is it true

You will notice they referenced the muslim culture and age differences/Christian etc...ADD that to the fact there is no family representation is a HUGE red flag. You need to overcome that in the first place. Best thing is move to Tunisia. Tough I know, but this is situation. The whole case has not been documented well 

[Going through 5,668]

I'm very curious about the lease/affidavits..

 

If neither you nor your spouse signed the lease---then who did?  How was this apartment obtained?

 

The affidavits were from people who were neither at the wedding, nor have seen you together as a married couple---what exactly were on these affidavits, then, that your lawyer thought would be useful?

 

If your relationship is a bonafide  one, then your lawyer really dropped the ball with how your package was put together.