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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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1 minute ago, Oakmen said:

We have our whole families coming over for a large wedding in February, we aren't just waiting for no reason.

I didn't mean it like that. What I was trying to say is.....all the USCIS cares is the marriage certificate to file for AOS. Ceremonies are not necessary and are just proof for bonafide marriage for your later interview. 

 

From what i can read of your post, you would like to look for a job sooner than later, the only way on speeding this is getting married at the courthouse and filing for AOS

8/7/2017                    NOA-1

3/1/2018                    NOA-2

3/15/2018                  NVC case received

3/22/2018                  NVC case assigned

3/23/2018                  Consulate ready

4/11/2018                  Medical

4/17/2018                  Visa Approved

4/24/2018                  Visa on hand

5/23/2018                  Point of Entry ATL

5/24/2018                  Marriage license, officiant and certificate / applied for SS#

5/31/2018                  AOS/AP/EAD

6/7/2018                    email notification of NOA-1

6/11/2018                  NOA-1 hard copies for AOS/EAD/AP

6/27/2018                  Biometrics for AOS/EAD

7/7/2018                    ready to be scheduled for interview

7/11/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (email from USCIS)

8/22/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (same email again)

9/5/2018                     We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is getting boring!!!)

10/3/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is insanity, 4th time while some got GC)

10/17/2018                After 136 days of wait in HELL, finally EAD in production

10/21/2018                Card was mailed to me, and yes it said so on a Sunday night, while Vj-ing

10/22/2018                Card was picked up by the USPS

10/24/2018                EAD in hand. F%^&& finally

12/28/2018                Interview has been scheduled. Waiting for notification with date by snail mail

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8 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

I didn't mean it like that. What I was trying to say is.....all the USCIS cares is the marriage certificate to file for AOS. Ceremonies are not necessary and are just proof for bonafide marriage for your later interview. 

 

From what i can read of your post, you would like to look for a job sooner than later, the only way on speeding this is getting married at the courthouse and filing for AOS

I agree with you. Op could do courthouse wedding and file aos and have a large renewal of vows later/on the date that they plan.

 

And if the OP intend to work right away in the US they should have went to CR1.. K1 is not a good choice for this plan.

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22 minutes ago, Oakmen said:

Of course it costs, I could be working, creating value and paying taxes and be a productive member of society.

Instead I have to sit here completely idle, there's a huge loss there for both the individual and society as a whole.

Not everyone who sets foot in the US is immediately authorized to work. Unfortunately, as a K-1 visa holder, you have no legal status in the US after 90 days here....until your I-485 is adjudicated ........but the sooner you file that I-765, the sooner you can get authorization to work.....  Good luck.....

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- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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17 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

first thing first and go to social security office and apply for SS# as of right now. After you have applied for SS# then get married in the courthouse and file immediatly for AOS/EAD/AP, so you can get these documents sooner than if you wait pointlessly till February 16

Don't you need the EAD to get an SSN? My wife got her SSN along with her EAD/AP card. Saved a potentially lengthy trip to the SS office.

 

The whole K1 process is a total deal nowadays. 9-12 months to get the K1, 90 days to marry and file AOS, and then back of the line for the I485, which can take 12+ months in some areas. And then ROC two years later. Worst part is if someone needs to take an emergency trip out of the country before they get AP, the whole process will be reset. 

 

What irks me is that there is literally zero benefit to doing things the "right" way by going the K1 route (vs AOS-ing from VWP/B2/F1 etc.) At the very least EAD/AP should be issued with the K1 visa. Or K1s should be given priority in the I485 queue.  

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29 minutes ago, Oakmen said:

That really sucks, I'll have to wait several months before I can start looking for jobs then. 

Thats the downside of k1 visa..you should have aware of this already.

29 minutes ago, Oakmen said:

How long is the processing time for the work permit when you send in the whole AOS thing after marriage right now??

 

It depends to your case,local office etc.

Like what other said mostly 5-7months

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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This is a pretty good guide...

https://www.visajourney.com/content/ssn

 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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1 minute ago, FluffyBalls said:

Don't you need the EAD to get an SSN? My wife got her SSN along with her EAD/AP card. Saved a potentially lengthy trip to the SS office.

 

the reason to get SS# is to be able to collect evidence for the AOS interview. Almost everything in this country is related to some degree as to having a SS# handy. My wife got one in 4 weeks after getting here. We didnt wait 7 months for EAD to get SS#. She had a bank account, credit card and other stuff almost immedietly, because I filed at SSA for her number. 

8/7/2017                    NOA-1

3/1/2018                    NOA-2

3/15/2018                  NVC case received

3/22/2018                  NVC case assigned

3/23/2018                  Consulate ready

4/11/2018                  Medical

4/17/2018                  Visa Approved

4/24/2018                  Visa on hand

5/23/2018                  Point of Entry ATL

5/24/2018                  Marriage license, officiant and certificate / applied for SS#

5/31/2018                  AOS/AP/EAD

6/7/2018                    email notification of NOA-1

6/11/2018                  NOA-1 hard copies for AOS/EAD/AP

6/27/2018                  Biometrics for AOS/EAD

7/7/2018                    ready to be scheduled for interview

7/11/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (email from USCIS)

8/22/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (same email again)

9/5/2018                     We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is getting boring!!!)

10/3/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is insanity, 4th time while some got GC)

10/17/2018                After 136 days of wait in HELL, finally EAD in production

10/21/2018                Card was mailed to me, and yes it said so on a Sunday night, while Vj-ing

10/22/2018                Card was picked up by the USPS

10/24/2018                EAD in hand. F%^&& finally

12/28/2018                Interview has been scheduled. Waiting for notification with date by snail mail

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1 minute ago, Alabamak1 said:

the reason to get SS# is to be able to collect evidence for the AOS interview. Almost everything in this country is related to some degree as to having a SS# handy. My wife got one in 4 weeks after getting here. We didnt wait 7 months for EAD to get SS#. She had a bank account, credit card and other stuff almost immedietly, because I filed at SSA for her number. 

Good to know I guess. My wife didn't need one (she was pregnant) so we just waited for it to arrive. We filed in March 2017 and got the EAD/AP exactly 4 months later, 5-7 months seems high.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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I agree with @missileman and others....CR-1 is better choice for working right away. In most cases you wait longer with k-1 to get work permit and AOS done, but that will all have different factors. In my given month of filing AOS there was already 3 VJ members that got GC. My wife is waiting for her interview that is scheduled already. All being considered....we where happy with k-1 and a little more than CR-1 for the GC. 

8/7/2017                    NOA-1

3/1/2018                    NOA-2

3/15/2018                  NVC case received

3/22/2018                  NVC case assigned

3/23/2018                  Consulate ready

4/11/2018                  Medical

4/17/2018                  Visa Approved

4/24/2018                  Visa on hand

5/23/2018                  Point of Entry ATL

5/24/2018                  Marriage license, officiant and certificate / applied for SS#

5/31/2018                  AOS/AP/EAD

6/7/2018                    email notification of NOA-1

6/11/2018                  NOA-1 hard copies for AOS/EAD/AP

6/27/2018                  Biometrics for AOS/EAD

7/7/2018                    ready to be scheduled for interview

7/11/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (email from USCIS)

8/22/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (same email again)

9/5/2018                     We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is getting boring!!!)

10/3/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is insanity, 4th time while some got GC)

10/17/2018                After 136 days of wait in HELL, finally EAD in production

10/21/2018                Card was mailed to me, and yes it said so on a Sunday night, while Vj-ing

10/22/2018                Card was picked up by the USPS

10/24/2018                EAD in hand. F%^&& finally

12/28/2018                Interview has been scheduled. Waiting for notification with date by snail mail

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ghana
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1 hour ago, Oakmen said:

Of course it costs, I could be working, creating value and paying taxes and be a productive member of society.

Instead I have to sit here completely idle, there's a huge loss there for both the individual and society as a whole.

I know you mean well but you are just one fish in a big pond of fishes going through the same thing. If this was about society and value USCIS/state department would have approved every petition or application within days. I get from your view that the whole system sounds unfair but that's just the nature of the beast (AKA US immigration). You as an individual or as a couple could have gone the CR1 route if you wanted to work right away but you chose the K1 route and unfortunately that's one of the disadvantages of K-1. 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Ukraine
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2 hours ago, Oakmen said:

This whole process is just unbelievably stupid. 

Must cost society a fortune to have tons of people not being able to join the workforce for the better part of a year. 

How did you not know all this when you started the process? I researched and saved cause I knew my wife would not be able to work, Process is written down in black and white before you set foot in our country

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2 hours ago, FluffyBalls said:

Good to know I guess. My wife didn't need one (she was pregnant) so we just waited for it to arrive. We filed in March 2017 and got the EAD/AP exactly 4 months later, 5-7 months seems high.

A few years ago, green cards were 4 months.  Timelines expand and contract all the time.  Ead is currently in expansion mode

YMMV

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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2 hours ago, Oakmen said:

Of course it costs, I could be working, creating value and paying taxes and be a productive member of society.

Instead I have to sit here completely idle, there's a huge loss there for both the individual and society as a whole.

That's why it's important for the applicant to choose the right visa and do all the necessary research (which very much includes processing times). When you decide to apply for a K-1 visa instead of getting married and file for a CR-1 visa, you accept the conditions and plan for the process accordingly. If working right away, or soon, after entry - you choose the CR-1 visa. 

 

Only the one who didn't do enough research before filing will be surprised and upset when they do start to actually read up on it and realize it's not what they wanted.

K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

U.S. passport: 03-30-2021 - 05-08-2021

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBs3G1PvyfM&ab_channel=Sabaton

 

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