Someone Else Got Packet 3 Before Us.. What The Hell?

[dnhut861 2]

We are doing k1 visa and we got noa 2 on Feb 17 and our case was READY at the embassy on march 24. and no, we did not get RFE, we passed with flying colors. 

 

I am on a facebook group and someone else posted that they got noa 2 on feb 19 and then they got their PKT3 on march 23.. How the hell is that possible?? also, two other people on that group got noa 2 on feb 17, for the same embassy/country but they are still waiting for PKT3 like me.

 

how is it that 1 person got PKT3 before us?? I thought it was first come, first serve? arent they supoosed to do things in order rather than backwards??

 

 

I emailed the embassy and asked them if they could email me PKT3, and they said "we expect to send you pkt3 in a few weeks". and this was last week..... as of today, still no 
PKT3

 

what a joke these people are. failed government, failed system....

Edited April 10, 2020 by dnhut861

[geowrian 22,335]

So...one person with a NOA2 2 days after you got packet 3 quickly from one consulate? Of all the flaws with immigration, I'm just doubtful this is a high priority item.

Once the petition is approved, it still has to go through some steps before it is sent to NVC. There could be some reason this did not happen exactly in order...even something as simple as the IO was out a day before it could get to the mail room, or somebody simply grabbed a case from a wrong pile.

They tend to batch shipments to NVC as well from anecdotal reports. So both sets of cases could have literally been sent at the same time, thus making it a toss up who gets processed first at NVC. Some workers are faster than others, and again you're dealing with the mail room.

NVC also batches shipments (assuming it's not electronic at that consulate). Theirs could have been in an entire shipment before yours just because it got through NVC slightly faster.

 

The process is not a single queue. It's more like a massive store with hundreds of checkout lanes. Generally, the sooner you get in line, the quicker you exit. But even if you get in a line before somebody else, it does not necessarily mean that nobody who gets in a line after you will complete checkout first.

There almost certainly is somebody who was approved before you who will still be waiting after you get P3 as well.

The best advice I can give is to never focus on or compare your case to anybody else's case. It'll drive you crazy.

[Boiler 43,429]

Where does it say first come first served?

[geowrian 22,335]

18 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Where does it say first come first served?

Processing time page: https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/

You have to choose the form type (I believe certain forms are LIFO, not FIFO).

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How we process cases

This time range is how long it is taking USCIS to process your case from the date we received it. We generally process cases in the order we receive them, and we will update this page each month.

 

 

[payxibka 10,044]

Why is it in situations such as this, no one ever wants to identify the consulate 

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Can I share somethings with you that I learned long ago about this process?

    • "the man with the gold makes the rules"
    • it will take as long as it will take 
    • no one with any certainty can tell you when some process will be completed
    • Your sense of urgency will never be equaled to what USCIS, NVC or your embassy demonstrates
    • Your journey is not going to mirror someone else's experience- yours and theirs are not the same
    • They only promised you a YES or NO answer. Never an exact time that their decision would be completed
    • Lowering your expectations will make you a much more relaxed individual

Good luck on your journey 
 

[SalishSea 16,770]

9 hours ago, dnhut861 said:

what a joke these people are. failed government, failed system....

Really?  Your process is actually progressing during an unprecedented global emergency, and yet you feel this way?  SMH.

[payxibka 10,044]

Here's the fallacy,  your petitions arrived at the consulate in the same shipment.   Maybe the are alphabetically before you 

[*Snowdrop* 603]

Have you ever worked in an office environment?

 

There's not just one person working on one file at a time in order and not working on the rest until they complete each one in order (although with the backlog it sometimes feels like it)

 

Imagine it more like this:

 

At the Embassy Bob, Mary and Alice each grab a box of files to work on. Your file is in the box Bob picked up, your FB friend's file is in Mary's box etc.

 

Bob starts working on a file, finds it needs a complicated background check puts it to one side, starts working on your file, gets asked by a colleague to look at something else, then the background check comes back for his first file and he picks that one up again and keeps working on it until it's complete. He goes back to working on your file, doesn't get it quite done before the end of the day so it's now sitting in his inbox ready to be compelted on his next shift.

 

Bob's next shift is in three days.

 

Mary had a really easy set of files, no missing documents, no extra background checks needed, no colleague's interrupting her. She zips through ten files. Come back tomorrow grabs a new set of files to work on zips through another set. Alice is working slightly more slowly but she's getting through 3-4 files a days too. Bob comes back three days later - picks up your file. Has a computer failure - calls the IT guy - takes a few hours to fix, picks up your file, almost gets to the end, oh no it looks like a page is missing. He goes back through the whole file to check - ah there it is. He's ready to sign off and send packet3 but it's the end of shift - never mind he will get to it tomorrow. 

 

Do you see how this works?

 

By the time Bob manages to get to the end of your file - Mary and Alice have processed dozens between them including many NOA dates a long time after yours. But at least you are the second file Bob is working on - imagine how long it's going to take him to get to the poor file at the bottom of his first box of files. 

 

It's just like a supermarket queue - you might get the slow cashier on training, you might be behind someone with a million items plus a customer service issue. Unfortuately you can't choose which line you are in.

[cd37 229]

6 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Really?  Your process is actually progressing during an unprecedented global emergency, and yet you feel this way?  SMH.

Yeah, OP is like no matter if people are dying in this global emergency, my process has to move on at any cost. Very selfish behavior. 

[ashley_ann 179]

I feel you need to realize that things happen the way they happen. Just because you got a NOA2 before them doesn't mean anything. 

You got a YES. You got an APPROVAL. Your application is also still moving forward during a pandemic and there is bare bone staff, or as you say "joke" people working at

these "failed government" buildings still trying their best to keep things moving despite everything.

 

I think you just need to sit down and be more grateful.

[PeachesMagee 62]

17 hours ago, dnhut861 said:

what a joke these people are. failed government, failed system....

If you think the government has failed so miserably, and the system is also failing you.... why continue?

Yes, there are flaws with the system. There are flaws with every system. None is perfect.

But, just for giggles, let's toss in the fact that most people are working remotely these days, for their own safety. So, the fact your case is progressing...is fantastic news!! Sit back, be thankful you're healthy, and that your case is PROGRESSING.

It'll be done before you know it!! Then you can be thankful that the broken, failed system, came through after all

 

[Loren Y 2,731]

You think this is bad, wait until you arrive in the United States. Boy, are you in for a shock. Let's see. Social security office first, ha ha, that's a good start, you will enjoy the people who are in that office 😁. The prime of America.

Next will be the city for the marriage license, usually not too bad getting the license, yes, you think you got this.

Big wedding day, yeah, felling good now, turn in license into the clerk's office, sorry, it will be 6 weeks before you get a certified copy. Enjoy the wait.

Now the DMV for your license. This will make the social security office seem like a pleasant experience. Make an appointment for 4-6 weeks out, don't dare try a walk-in. Nice 2-6 hours, and a big argument with the employee because they have no idea what a K1 is. You will probably get to visit the DMV 2-3 times, and after all that, your license is only good for the time left on your I-94. So you wasted 3 days of your life to get an ID that's valid for say 45 days. Then it's useless after 45 days, and you can't get another until your EAD card shows up in 7 months if your lucky.

Then, let's say you get lucky and your marriage certificate shows up, now you get to pay out 1225 dollars, fill out 4-5 immigration forms, and start all over again at the beginning 😂. And you thought the K1 process was a long time. The AOS will take years. 

You will learn patience whether you want to or not, I promise you will be able to handle everything else in life if you can get thru this immigration process. But your not off to a good start.

 

[Calicolom 265]

19 hours ago, dnhut861 said:

We are doing k1 visa and we got noa 2 on Feb 17 and our case was READY at the embassy on march 24. and no, we did not get RFE, we passed with flying colors. 

 

I am on a facebook group and someone else posted that they got noa 2 on feb 19 and then they got their PKT3 on march 23.. How the hell is that possible?? also, two other people on that group got noa 2 on feb 17, for the same embassy/country but they are still waiting for PKT3 like me.

 

how is it that 1 person got PKT3 before us?? I thought it was first come, first serve? arent they supoosed to do things in order rather than backwards??

 

 

I emailed the embassy and asked them if they could email me PKT3, and they said "we expect to send you pkt3 in a few weeks". and this was last week..... as of today, still no 
PKT3

 

what a joke these people are. failed government, failed system....

Facebook knows, exactly when you will get your visa. 

[Ryan H 3,790]

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