Still a crapshoot for a K1

[visafrompa 9]

Fiancee had interview on Dec 21st.  Had all the paperwork done, followed the Pkt 3 instructions... ducks all in a row.

 

Got a blue slip.  Insufficient proof of relationship.  Here's the BS part:

 

They asked for copies of my plane tickets and CC payments.  BOTH TRIPS AND STATEMENTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET WE PREPARED.

They wanted my fiance's ex's name, address, phone, date and place of birth.  THIS IS NEVER ASKED FOR.  NOT EVEN IN THE FAMILY HISTORY SHE PREPARED.

They wanted MY ex's name, address, phone, date and place of birth.  THIS IS NEVER ASKED FOR.  NOT EVEN IN THE FAMILY HISTORY I PREPARED.

They wanted photos of our meeting.  WE PROVIDED 12 PHOTOS.  INCLUDING MEETING HER FAMILY AND ENGAGEMENT PARTY.  Also 7 pages of screen caps from Viber conversations.

They wanted a family history.  IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PAPERWORK WE PREPARED.  BOTH OF OUR FAMILIES.

They wanted a list of all my fiancee's family living in the US.  THIS IS NEVER ASKED FOR.  BUT IS INCLUDED IN THE FAMILY HISTORY. She has none living in the US.

They want a detailed timeline.  OK, this might be on me... but I submitted a statement of meeting, description of our two visits with photos and receipts.  It was not in a 'timeline' format, but it was chronological.  I even included the train tickets showing my name, passport number and dates for all 4 train rides.

They want our current addresses and phone numbers 'where we actually live'.  THIS IS PART OF EVERY FORM I SUBMIT.  AND PART OF THE DS-160 FOR MY FIANCEE.

 

Basically everything they asked for, they had in their hands, they just never looked.  Or they wanted information that is never asked for.  There is NOTHING that asks for address/phone number of ex-spouses.  The family history specifically asks for "Husband/Wife/Children".

 

So basically we were gonna get a blue slip no matter what.  Its frustrating that everything they asked for, they had in their hands, or worse, we were never told to prepare.  There is NOTHING that asks for the address/phone number of your EX.  The I-134 only asks for a name.  And the I-129F asks about ex's, but NEVER an address or phone number.

 

Follow up in Jan 11th, so we'll do some more paperwork and see how it goes.

 

Took me a while to calm my fiancee down over the phone.  She was upset but once I got a copy of the 221(g) I told her there was nothing we could do... we were just picked to not get a visa that day.

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by visafrompa

[African Zealot 1,452]

They invent new ways to screw people over. Fortunately you have a follow up relatively soon.

Edited January 3, 2021 by Ray.Bonaquist

[carmel34 3,529]

1 hour ago, visafrompa said:

Got a blue slip.  Insufficient proof of relationship.

Sorry to hear about your situation, sounds like you did everything right.  It's hard to know what the officer was thinking, but based on the questions you posted, he/she wanted more information about the timeline of previous relationships/divorces, and your current relationship's timeline.  Sometimes they are super-sensitive about inconsistencies or other possible red flags in your story, such as starting a new relationship while still married or going through a divorce, etc., especially if a previous relationship also involved a US immigration process.  Unfortunately, they hold the keys and call the shots, even when it seems to be abusive.  If you submit everything they asked for in response to the 221(g), and their doubts about your relationship are eliminated, you should eventually get approved.  Good luck!

[Boiler 43,425]

You only met twice?

[Crazy Cat 39,212]

42 minutes ago, Ray.Bonaquist said:

They invent new ways to screw people over. Fortunately you have a follow up relatively soon.

I have a feeling there is more to this story.......as in what was actually said during the interview.

[Pinkrlion 2,607]

Did she have any previous petitions?

[Liam2021 551]

39 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

I have a feeling there is more to this story.......as in what was actually said during the interview.

That what I'm thinking too. Also, OP look like not doing homework before the interview. With US Embassy in Saigon, family tree/ timeline is a must have document at the interview.

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

There must be red flags. My fiance had that same blue form back in Sept 2017 and we overcame it next day (serious mode activated). That blue form is extremely popular in Saigon consulate. Consider yourself lucky they didn’t give out social media form.

Edited January 3, 2021 by NancyNguyen

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

5 minutes ago, Liam2021 said:

That what I'm thinking too. Also, OP look like not doing homework before the interview. With US Embassy in Saigon, family tree/ timeline is a must have document at the interview.

He should be aware of Vietnam, a darn high fraud country.

[Lemonslice 4,553]

Was her ex also a US citizen?

 

Previous relationships of the petitioner are common questions in some consulates. 

[Crazy Cat 39,212]

11 minutes ago, Liam2021 said:

With US Embassy in Saigon, family tree/ timeline is a must have document at the interview.

That's what I thought.  I seem to recall that it is important there.

[JFH 12,189]

What happened to your Chinese fiancé who had her interview in 2019?

[Ed&Midori1031 330]

3 hours ago, visafrompa said:

Fiancee had interview on Dec 21st.  Had all the paperwork done, followed the Pkt 3 instructions... ducks all in a row.

 

Got a blue slip.  Insufficient proof of relationship.  Here's the BS part:

 

They asked for copies of my plane tickets and CC payments.  BOTH TRIPS AND STATEMENTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET WE PREPARED.

They wanted my fiance's ex's name, address, phone, date and place of birth.  THIS IS NEVER ASKED FOR.  NOT EVEN IN THE FAMILY HISTORY SHE PREPARED.

They wanted MY ex's name, address, phone, date and place of birth.  THIS IS NEVER ASKED FOR.  NOT EVEN IN THE FAMILY HISTORY I PREPARED.

They wanted photos of our meeting.  WE PROVIDED 12 PHOTOS.  INCLUDING MEETING HER FAMILY AND ENGAGEMENT PARTY.  Also 7 pages of screen caps from Viber conversations.

They wanted a family history.  IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PAPERWORK WE PREPARED.  BOTH OF OUR FAMILIES.

They wanted a list of all my fiancee's family living in the US.  THIS IS NEVER ASKED FOR.  BUT IS INCLUDED IN THE FAMILY HISTORY. She has none living in the US.

They want a detailed timeline.  OK, this might be on me... but I submitted a statement of meeting, description of our two visits with photos and receipts.  It was not in a 'timeline' format, but it was chronological.  I even included the train tickets showing my name, passport number and dates for all 4 train rides.

They want our current addresses and phone numbers 'where we actually live'.  THIS IS PART OF EVERY FORM I SUBMIT.  AND PART OF THE DS-160 FOR MY FIANCEE.

 

Basically everything they asked for, they had in their hands, they just never looked.  Or they wanted information that is never asked for.  There is NOTHING that asks for address/phone number of ex-spouses.  The family history specifically asks for "Husband/Wife/Children".

 

So basically we were gonna get a blue slip no matter what.  Its frustrating that everything they asked for, they had in their hands, or worse, we were never told to prepare.  There is NOTHING that asks for the address/phone number of your EX.  The I-134 only asks for a name.  And the I-129F asks about ex's, but NEVER an address or phone number.

 

Follow up in Jan 11th, so we'll do some more paperwork and see how it goes.

 

Took me a while to calm my fiancee down over the phone.  She was upset but once I got a copy of the 221(g) I told her there was nothing we could do... we were just picked to not get a visa that day.

 

Sorry to hear about this.  Do you remember any of the questions that were asked to your fiance?  as of now try and gather as much information for the 221(g) and hopefully you will get approved right away! 

[Daisy.Chain 317]

Give them what they ask for asap. It's the only way you can move forward. Do NOT go in with a chip on your shoulder or make any passive-aggressive comments in the documents, no matter how right you believe yourself to be, because it can't help you and will only hurt you.

 

Did you really only submit a few pictures and a few screenshot pages? When you resubmit the information, you could consider adding more information (clearly labeled as "additional proof of relationship"). It might be too late to frontload, but maybe you could sideload a little?

 

It sounds like they are asking you for information you provided, and that's sad. However, don't be offended by them asking for info that was not asked for (and not provided). Their job is to check people out! If they have additional questions, answer them! I'm sorry you're going through this, but glad that if they saw something they are checking it out. You had a Chinese fiancee before that you were petitioning? Potential red flag. If your fiancee had an ex petitioning her, second red flag. You only met twice? Possible 3rd red flag.

 

Deep breaths..just give them the info they need and hopefully that will fix the problem.

 

[jnguyen1025 2]

This journey is very much a waiting game and you have no choice but to do what’s being asked, even if it means doing it again or resubmitting info you’d previously provided.

 

My partner has been in the US for almost 5 years and we are still waiting for her 10-year GC and another 3 years before she can apply for citizenship. 
 

USCIS is very big about proof. The more u can provide, the better your case. Even if it wasn’t part of the instructions, they can still subsequently ask for it if there’s any suspicion on their part. 
 

I know it can get frustrating, but be patience and the day will come. Good luck 👍