Marrying for money and citizenship.

[Pbchief2 82]

Ok, I tried to stay out of it. My ex-wife has decided to marry her boyfriends roommate to help him get citizenship in exchange for cash. She told me about this a couple times and I advised her to step away and not get into anything illegal. Unfortunately she did it, so not only has she committed fraud, she's not going to get paid now. I have our sons interest in mind and would like to keep them from being near that whole situation. Is it wrong of me to try and disconnect thier time together? 

[Boiler 43,433]

Why is she not getting paid?

[Pbchief2 82]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Why is she not getting paid?

They agreed on a price, now he told her he can't pay anything yet. I'm pretty sure it will stay that way.

[Family 3,479]

You certainly have leverage in coercing your ex …to wake up and shape up, especially since she will have to “play house “ with both the boyfriend and the Roomie Pretend Husband….for the marriage for money scheme to work. 
 

Best she just divorces/ annuls the marriage and chalk it up to a Vegas moment of stupidity rather than continue with the sham and involve even your young  sons in the complicity…( you know family photos for USCIS, Fake Stepfather listed on children's school / doctor records). 

[Mike E 11,723]

Bf’s roomie might be running a VAWA scam: “she demanded money after we married before she would agree to petition me”

[Family 3,479]

1 minute ago, Mike E said:

Bf’s roomie might be running a VAWA scam: “she demanded money after we married before she would agree to petition me”

There is no honor among scoundrels..I think the saying goes. …but Roomie is quite fearless in refusing to pay, so definitely makes me think he has something up his sleeve. 

[EM_Vandaveer 2,369]

1 hour ago, Pbchief2 said:

Ok, I tried to stay out of it. My ex-wife has decided to marry her boyfriends roommate to help him get citizenship in exchange for cash. She told me about this a couple times and I advised her to step away and not get into anything illegal. Unfortunately she did it, so not only has she committed fraud, she's not going to get paid now. I have our sons interest in mind and would like to keep them from being near that whole situation. Is it wrong of me to try and disconnect thier time together? 

Unless either the boyfriend, the roommate or your ex-wife actually poses a danger to your son, yes, it's wrong to not allow your son to spend time with HIS MOTHER.

[Boiler 43,433]

Odd that she did not get at least something up front.

[Family 3,479]

2 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Unless either the boyfriend, the roommate or your ex-wife actually poses a danger to your son, yes, it's wrong to not allow your son to spend time with HIS MOTHER.

Unless of course, the MOTHER is a player in Felony Sham Marriage Show and using children as supporting cast..

In that case, I say blackmail the silly mom to come to her senses OR….

[EM_Vandaveer 2,369]

3 minutes ago, Family said:

Unless of course, the MOTHER is a player in Felony Sham Marriage Show and using children as supporting cast..

In that case, I say blackmail the silly mom to come to her senses OR….

I heartily disagree, while if that's what's happening it's certainly a stupid choice on this woman's part, the child is hers as well and she should be able to spend time with her own child.

[SalishSea 16,770]

2 hours ago, Pbchief2 said:

Ok, I tried to stay out of it. My ex-wife has decided to marry her boyfriends roommate to help him get citizenship in exchange for cash. She told me about this a couple times and I advised her to step away and not get into anything illegal. Unfortunately she did it, so not only has she committed fraud, she's not going to get paid now. I have our sons interest in mind and would like to keep them from being near that whole situation. Is it wrong of me to try and disconnect thier time together? 

Considering it is a federal crime and can receive a $250k fine/5 years in prison, I would also be worried about my child's care and safety.

[bakphx1 785]

It will be interesting to see how it goes since people in sham marriages tend to not plan it out very well.  The fact that you know about it shows they’re over confident in how easy it will be to pull off.

[Villanelle 4,121]

1 hour ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Unless either the boyfriend, the roommate or your ex-wife actually poses a danger to your son, yes, it's wrong to not allow your son to spend time with HIS MOTHER.

This ^^ this is how the family court typically views it. A parent can be a criminal yet family court still takes the position that nothing is more important than the parental relationship. If the parent is a violent offender the visits may be supervised. Visitation typically remains until a child becomes old enough (14 or so) to express their wishes for consideration. 

 

The OP can bring the matter up in family court but I would recommend using an attorney to do so and keeping expectations low. Best outcome would be along the lines of supervised limited visitation and perhaps changing custody order to remove moms ability to make decisions (physical custody is difficult than decision making rights).

 

OP can also report the fraud to the local office by sending a letter to them (attn FDNS) and a copy to the service center.  

3 hours ago, Pbchief2 said:

Is it wrong of me to try and disconnect thier time together? 

Yes and no. Mom is behaving badly. Of course you should protect your children but that doesn't necessarily mean a total disconnect. Supervised interactions. Allow the relationship, just ensure it's proper. 

[jakelake 222]

3 hours ago, Pbchief2 said:

Ok, I tried to stay out of it. My ex-wife has decided to marry her boyfriends roommate to help him get citizenship in exchange for cash. She told me about this a couple times and I advised her to step away and not get into anything illegal. Unfortunately she did it, so not only has she committed fraud, she's not going to get paid now. I have our sons interest in mind and would like to keep them from being near that whole situation. Is it wrong of me to try and disconnect thier time together? 

So that is your ex-wife who now has a boyfriend but has decided to marry another man.

How old are your sons and when did you divorce her?

Is she is now your ex-wife because of her involvement with many men during the marriage?

Are you looking to get full custody of your sons? Certainly, her behavior is not a healthy one for the kids to be around. You should contact USCIS to report the fraud.

 

[Pbchief2 82]

 

1 hour ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Unless either the boyfriend, the roommate or your ex-wife actually poses a danger to your son, yes, it's wrong to not allow your son to spend time with HIS MOTHER.

I have a few thoughts on this, outside input helps. First my son lives with me per the divorce agreement, he is a teenager and asked if he could go stay with her about a year ago. I spoke to her about it and she said she was not comfortable with him staying with them for a variety of reasons(drinking and arguments being the main). Him being a teenager, he get a quite a bit of autonomy. But things being in the fraud area gives me even more reservations. He doesn't know anything, but my older son knows and he thinks keeping him out of the situation is best.