Petition to include K1 filers as exemption from travel bans

[SalishSea 16,770]

5 minutes ago, JBF said:

In my personal opinion the petition itself won’t work, but could eventually bring change, in a way awareness and hopefully move something. 
According to everyone who has commented, or most of them, the issue is the wording used in the petition, which cites indeed the DS. 
 

And, something I wanted to bring attention to, is the fact that those categories listed as “immediate family” in the DS are all, in certain ways, excluded from the ban. Not fiancés, though. 

I think the issue here is that you are fixated on a visa application form, rather than the actual policies and laws that pertain to US immigration, as listed above by Geo.

[Ela G. 389]

Some real saltiness out here about a petition... Just sign it and move on with your life. No one’s post is going to change anything but a simple signature might do a lot. Some people need a chill pill.

[JBF 116]

6 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I think the issue here is that you are fixated on a visa application form, rather than the actual policies and laws that pertain to US immigration, as listed above by Geo.

As I said I haven’t created the petition but completely agree with the goal and I’m glad that someone tries to do something, other than waiting, and appreciate the effort and intention. 
And again, the petition can be modified.

Edited June 21, 2020 by JBF

[JBF 116]

7 minutes ago, Ela S. said:

Some real saltiness out here about a petition... Just sign it and move on with your life. No one’s post is going to change anything but a simple signature might do a lot. Some people need a chill pill.

Finally, thank you for saying this. I understand trying to show that certain words can be wrong, and I appreciate it, but most individuals in this thread were literally simply complaining about something that could’ve been concluded constructively. Obviously, as you can see, mainly those with the spousal.

Edited June 21, 2020 by JBF

[Ela G. 389]

3 minutes ago, JBF said:

Finally, thank you for saying this. I understand trying to show that certain words can be wrong, but most individuals in this thread were literally simply complaining about something that could’ve been concluded constructively. Obviously, as you can see, mainly those with the spousal.

Exactly. No one here has the power to change the law and I’m sure it is no one’s intention to change it with this petition. Wording could have been improved but I’m sure most on VJ don’t have a law degree so 🤷🏻‍♀️. Like I said, sign it, help others, and just move on with your life. This isn’t a competition. If you were in the same situation you’d want help too. I’m not with this whole “moral superiority” thing some people are conveying on here

[JBF 116]

3 minutes ago, Ela S. said:

Exactly. No one here has the power to change the law and I’m sure it is no one’s intention to change it with this petition. Wording could have been improved but I’m sure most on VJ don’t have a law degree so 🤷🏻‍♀️. Like I said, sign it, help others, and just move on with your life. This isn’t a competition. If you were in the same situation you’d want help too. I’m not with this whole “moral superiority” thing some people are conveying on here

Absolutely, couldn’t agree more. Who has created the petition has done their best to try to help others as well, and the request of the petition matters more than anything in my opinion. 

 

[MaruMaru 76]

Ciao! 

 

For anyone who felt the urgent need to comment negatively this petition like they were politicians...I am going to tell them this: 

I am one of those who applied and got approved for a K1 visa and waiting to schedule this interview since this March. 

I signed the petition as it affected me directly and I truly believe that in THIS SCENARIO it's important and necessary they realise that the type of visa is family-oriented visa if not literally family-based. 

The DS160 talks better than I do so, please, if you are a spousal, worker, student or anyone else who applied for a different process and feel disappointed by this petition - I don't understand why but people constantly try to argue over random topics  that do not concerns them directly - just LEAVE this TOPIC. 

I don't want to sound undemocratic but seriously, are you a LAW SPECIALIST that you feel this compelling need to tell us the reasons why we should give up upon this request? 

Because it looks like you guys have probably misunderstood the goal here which is HELP EACH OTHER where it is possibile. If you think that this Petition is wrong for you, just move on.

I am sorry to say that, but unless you are the President of the USA I simply do not care about what you have to say over this request - if it does not affect you directly and your opinion conflicts with our specific case.

We have posted this petition in the K1 visa section, so why do you have to come here and derail our progress or tear down what we are trying to do. What is the scope? To enlighten us with  some knowledge that you think you may have because you have been reading forums' threads during the quarantine?

 

I respect other people's opinions and I don't want to act against the forum policies because what I have just said, but, you know,  I would never visit one of your threads to say "yes this is right, not this is not". We are on  the SAME boat in the end guys.

You have probably benefited by the process acceleration that, just for your awareness, I have ALWAYS SUPPORTED because you are married and a marriage rises obligations + rights. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OrihimeandIchigo 216]

You've already been properly informed MANY times that the legal status and definition of spouse is not the same as fiance, and having it put into the petition to try and change legal definitions in US immigration was a mistake and it should have never been put into the petition. Just OWN IT. It hurt your cause and instead of fighting everyone on the legality of everything. Just please go make a petition yourself where it just talks about the EO ban. It isn't that hard and then everyone will gather around to help. Best of Luck.

Edited June 21, 2020 by OrihimeandIchigo

[MaruMaru 76]

4 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

You've already been properly informed MANY times that the legal status and definition of spouse is not the same as fiance, and having it put into the petition to try and change legal definitions in US immigration was a mistake and it should have never been put into the petition. Just OWN IT. It hurt your cause and instead of fighting everyone on the legality of everything. Just please go make a petition yourself where it just talks about the EO ban. It isn't that hard and then everyone will gather around to help. Best of Luck.

Never ever said that we want to change the legal definition. I perfectly know what a family is and what is not. We are not a bunch of dummies here, okay? 

We are talking about to get EXEMPTED too from this almost ridiculous travel ban.

Edited June 21, 2020 by Manu8915

[JBF 116]

4 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

You've already been properly informed MANY times that the legal status and definition of spouse is not the same as fiance, and having it put into the petition to try and change legal definitions in US immigration was a mistake and it should have never been put into the petition. Just OWN IT. It hurt your cause and instead of fighting everyone on the legality of everything. Just please go make a petition yourself where it just talks about the EO ban. It isn't that hard and then everyone will gather around to help. Best of Luck.

As someone said MANY times, no one is trying to change the legal status of fiancés, it has been cited what the DS reports, but obviously you’re more informed than what an official form could state. And then again, it’s obvious to see how basically only those with the spousal are complaining about it, no one else.

Edited June 21, 2020 by JBF

[geowrian 22,335]

2 minutes ago, Manu8915 said:

I don't understand why but people constantly try to argue over random topics  that do not concerns them directly - just LEAVE this TOPIC. 

Might want to take another read of the TOS:

https://www.visajourney.com/terms-of-service/

[MaruMaru 76]

5 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

You've already been properly informed MANY times that the legal status and definition of spouse is not the same as fiance, and having it put into the petition to try and change legal definitions in US immigration was a mistake and it should have never been put into the petition. Just OWN IT. It hurt your cause and instead of fighting everyone on the legality of everything. Just please go make a petition yourself where it just talks about the EO ban. It isn't that hard and then everyone will gather around to help. Best of Luck.

And another thing, my fiancé is a Law Student, he found that the petition has a logic ratio. And I can tell you that my fiancé has always been very suspicious over the petition in general

[OrihimeandIchigo 216]

4 minutes ago, JBF said:

As someone said MANY times, no one is trying to change the legal status of fiancés, it has been cited what the DS reports, but obviously you’re more informed than what an official form could state. And then again, it’s obvious to see how basically only those with the spousal are complaining about it, no one else.

But you are, your trying to categorize Fiancees as "immediate relatives" and immediate relatives are related by birth, marriage, or adoption. And for right reasons people disagree and they are allowed to voice that opinion on this forum and to tell them not to is against the rules of the forum. JUST. GO. MAKE. A. NEW. PETITION. Lordy

[JBF 116]

8 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

But you are, your trying to categorize Fiancees as "immediate relatives" and immediate relatives are related by birth, marriage, or adoption. And for right reasons people disagree and they are allowed to voice that opinion on this forum and to tell them not to is against the rules of the forum. JUST. GO. MAKE. A. NEW. PETITION. Lordy

I’m not trying to categorize fiancés that way, I’m not trying to get any equal right as someone else said, and I’m not trying to waste my time. Considering how everyone, and obviously those with the spousal, are absolutely experts when it comes to K1s, it would be amazing if you could’ve provided constructive suggestions other than criticism. Someone did, most didn’t. Those with the spousal are simply not okay with the fact that fiancés are not immediate family, but could be considered as such eventually, as the DS states. And if you want to disagree, reread the thread. 
 

And by the way, I already said that I haven’t created the petition, but it can be modified and it will. But the negativity on this thread, from indeed those with the spousal, is in my opinion really disappointing. 

Edited June 21, 2020 by JBF

[MaruMaru 76]

2 minutes ago, OrihimeandIchigo said:

But you are, your trying to categorize Fiancees as "immediate relatives" and immediate relatives are related by birth, marriage, or adoption. And for right reasons people disagree and they are allowed to voice that opinion on this forum and to tell them not to is against the rules of the forum. JUST. GO. MAKE. A. NEW. PETITION. Lordy

 Well, I have suggested people to move on, yes. But like you, I am none to tell people what to do or not. So, if someone of the staff thinks I did, I hope they will tell me that.