Virtual Ceremony is now coming?

[thongho2910 17]

Take a look a this article everybody. What do you think 🤔🤔

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/496178-house-dems-push-to-include-virtual-naturalization-ceremonies-in-next

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

2 hours ago, thongho2910 said:

Take a look a this article everybody. What do you think 🤔🤔

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/496178-house-dems-push-to-include-virtual-naturalization-ceremonies-in-next

 

Dumb idea

[Deagle 494]

31 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Dumb idea

Why?

[Dashinka 23,239]

So these lawmakers just want more tax revenue?

 

“Beyond this, naturalized citizens earn 44% more in annual employment income than their immigrant counterparts; income which contributes to the economic success of our communities, including through increased tax revenue which will be even more critical in the coming years,” the lawmakers argued.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

21 minutes ago, Deagle said:

Why?

Because that is part of the experience getting naturalized. I kinda think it is like my MBA graduation process late last year. Which I graduated with a MBA and I was supposed to go to the graduation ceremony this spring but due to this virus they cancelled it. I still have my diploma saying that I graduated but it would have been much better if I had done the actual ceremony

[Valor 131]

I think that's a great idea. Of course I would prefer to attend an actual ceremony, the experience would be so much more memorable. But we are dealing with a pandemic for the time being and we just have to adjust our expectations to this new normal in order to get things going. I think some cities in Australia has already started doing this.  

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

59 minutes ago, Valor said:

I think that's a great idea. Of course I would prefer to attend an actual ceremony, the experience would be so much more memorable. But we are dealing with a pandemic for the time being and we just have to adjust our expectations to this new normal in order to get things going. I think some cities in Australia has already started doing this.  

But we are already in the downward trend of this thing. So I believe this is unneeded

[bing10 114]

1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Because that is part of the experience getting naturalized. I kinda think it is like my MBA graduation process late last year. Which I graduated with a MBA and I was supposed to go to the graduation ceremony this spring but due to this virus they cancelled it. I still have my diploma saying that I graduated but it would have been much better if I had done the actual ceremony

 

What if your school wouldn't award you your MBA until you attended graduation, at some undermined time in the future, perhaps late next year?

[Deagle 494]

2 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Because that is part of the experience getting naturalized. I kinda think it is like my MBA graduation process late last year. Which I graduated with a MBA and I was supposed to go to the graduation ceremony this spring but due to this virus they cancelled it. I still have my diploma saying that I graduated but it would have been much better if I had done the actual ceremony

Congratulation on your MBA but the comparison is not really valid. Your diploma already saying that you are graduated, but people who applied for citizenship are still waiting. 

 

This is an unusual situation and requires new and different approach for almost everything. We are not sure when this will end or how. That's why we need to adapt with the current.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

41 minutes ago, bing10 said:

 

What if your school wouldn't award you your MBA until you attended graduation, at some undermined time in the future, perhaps late next year?

 

6 minutes ago, Deagle said:

Congratulation on your MBA but the comparison is not really valid. Your diploma already saying that you are graduated, but people who applied for citizenship are still waiting. 

 

This is an unusual situation and requires new and different approach for almost everything. We are not sure when this will end or how. That's why we need to adapt with the current.

Ok, how about this.... We submitted my wife's N400 earlier this year so that she can be naturalized by the election. So I understand where you are coming from but in reality this won't stop the ceremonies at all. This will just delay them a couple months at most. 

[bing10 114]

2 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

 

Ok, how about this.... We submitted my wife's N400 earlier this year so that she can be naturalized by the election. So I understand where you are coming from but in reality this won't stop the ceremonies at all. This will just delay them a couple months at most. 

 

I hope you're right, and they re-start soon, but I think that will be tough in places like NYC, where there will be physical distancing for a long time, and they typically have huge ceremonies.

 

Another option could be to give people the choice. Either 1. have a virtual citizenship now, or 2. Wait for a physical ceremony in the future. 

 

I'd take option 1, and your wife could choose option 2.

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

3 minutes ago, bing10 said:

 

I hope you're right, and they re-start soon, but I think that will be tough in places like NYC, where there will be physical distancing for a long time, and they typically have huge ceremonies.

 

Another option could be to give people the choice. Either 1. have a virtual citizenship now, or 2. Wait for a physical ceremony in the future. 

 

I'd take option 1, and your wife could choose option 2.

 

Honestly I don't see it happening in the near future because you do have take the Naturalization oath. So how can that be done virtually?

[bing10 114]

3 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Honestly I don't see it happening in the near future because you do have take the Naturalization oath. So how can that be done virtually?

 

Exactly the same way they do it in Australia. The technology is available to do it.

 

https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship

 

[geowrian 22,335]

Ceremonies are overrated. I did the work for the degree, not to be recognized by people that don't really know me.

 

Some people like big weddings. Others are fine with a court wedding.

Some people like commencement. Others think it's a waste of time and effort.

Oath ceremonies are no different. Some people may want the "full experience". Others just want to become a USC and move along to their next accomplishment.

 

Debatable if we are on the downturn or not of this event...time will tell based upon how people act.

Edited May 6, 2020 by geowrian

[Loren Y 2,732]

8 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Ceremonies are overrated. I did the work for the degree, not to be recognized by people that don't really know me.

 

Some people like big weddings. Others are fine with a court wedding.

Some people like commencement. Others think it's a waste of time and effort.

Oath ceremonies are no different. Some people may want the "full experience". Others just want to become a USC and move along to their next accomplishment.

 

Debatable if we are on the downturn or not of this event...time will tell based upon how people act.

I am on the same page. Maybe people should be given the option. My wife and I when we get to naturalization are good with anything simple. If they just want to take my money and send me the certificate in the mail I'm good with that. As long as my end goal is reached ( wife becoming a citizen) I'm not too concerned with how that takes place.