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Applied for removal of conditions 1 year ago, they ask for additional evidence but now I qualify for Naturalization. What to do?

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Hello Everyone!

I waited exactly 365 days to hear from the USCIS about my removal of conditions. They sent a notification requesting additional evidence (a lot of it).

- Joint utility bills, joint installments

- a will, a trust or power of attorney

- affidavits from 3 separate people that can attest to our "good faith" marriage

- any other documents not mentioned previously

My issue is that as of last Monday, I qualify for naturalization since I am married to a US citizen and have been living in the US for 3 years. Now my question is, what do I need to do? Do I have to send the information they request for my removal of conditions or can I ignore that in go ahead and submit my n-400 for naturalization purposes??

 

I haven't been able to get a human being on the phone line for the last few days. I would really appreciate any information.

 

Thank you!!

 

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I think you should get your RFE done first. You can also apply for Naturalization but your I-751 will have to be adjudicated first before N-400 can be approved. 

 

Source: from reading what others have done on here. 

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Your N-400 can only be approved after your I-751, even if it forces the approval. A pending RFE means you aren't otherwise approvable. You need to respond satisfactorily.

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I'd respond to RFE asap and also apply for naturalization asap as well. From what I see, VSC takes 2-3 months to process RFEs. Meanwhile N400 would probably need longer time. (Your info says state is NY, what field office are you from? If NYC, wait is much longer than 3 months, if Buffalo wait would be around 4-5 months I think) If they like your additional evidences, you'll get approved before your N400 interview. If not, you'll most likely do a joint I751/N400 interview. N400 would force them to give priority to your I751 interview in that case. 

 

Remember you need to respond to RFE no matter what. If you fail to respond, they'll deny your I751 and you'll have a much bigger headache to deal with. 

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You're not eligible for naturalization until you have successfully removed conditions. Do the RFE and respond fully for I-751. In the meantime you can apply for N-400. 

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Hello my dear,

It is the process to removal your status and get your I-751. You need 3 people as references who will confirm by letter that your marriage is real. And if you can provide some pictures too that will good.

Your application is probably on stand by, it is why you are waiting too long now. The whole process usually takes between 3 and 6 months. Please provide them what they ask for and move forward. More you are going to wait and more they are going to think something is wrong.

After you are done with the I-751, you can apply for a N400.

 

Good luck,

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1 hour ago, Fabien Kobbar1990 said:

Hello my dear,

It is the process to removal your status and get your I-751. You need 3 people as references who will confirm by letter that your marriage is real. And if you can provide some pictures too that will good.

Your application is probably on stand by, it is why you are waiting too long now. The whole process usually takes between 3 and 6 months. Please provide them what they ask for and move forward. More you are going to wait and more they are going to think something is wrong.

After you are done with the I-751, you can apply for a N400.

 

Good luck,

You actually don't need letters from 3 people. Those are among the weakest evidence to submit and should only be done if you have literally nothing else to provide. For removal of conditions, the number 1 thing they need is proof of co-mingling finances.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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1 hour ago, Fabien Kobbar1990 said:

Hello my dear,

It is the process to removal your status and get your I-751. You need 3 people as references who will confirm by letter that your marriage is real. And if you can provide some pictures too that will good.

Your application is probably on stand by, it is why you are waiting too long now. The whole process usually takes between 3 and 6 months. Please provide them what they ask for and move forward. More you are going to wait and more they are going to think something is wrong.

After you are done with the I-751, you can apply for a N400.

 

Good luck,

 

Also, the process hasn't taken "between 3 and 6 months" in a very long time, and you don't have to be done with the ROC to apply for naturalization.

Please don't post if you're not familiar with the process.

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On 4/23/2017 at 4:08 PM, Sol Mari said:

Hello Everyone!

I waited exactly 365 days to hear from the USCIS about my removal of conditions. They sent a notification requesting additional evidence (a lot of it).

- Joint utility bills, joint installments

- a will, a trust or power of attorney

- affidavits from 3 separate people that can attest to our "good faith" marriage

- any other documents not mentioned previously

My issue is that as of last Monday, I qualify for naturalization since I am married to a US citizen and have been living in the US for 3 years. Now my question is, what do I need to do? Do I have to send the information they request for my removal of conditions or can I ignore that in go ahead and submit my n-400 for naturalization purposes??

 

I haven't been able to get a human being on the phone line for the last few days. I would really appreciate any information.

 

Thank you!!

 

Hi @Sol Mari, its really unfortunate that you had to get the RFE after such a long wait, however,could you help us with information regarding why they are requesting for the above evidence specifically? What documents did you initially submit when you filed your i-751?

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On 5/1/2017 at 0:55 AM, svb said:

Hi @Sol Mari, its really unfortunate that you had to get the RFE after such a long wait, however,could you help us with information regarding why they are requesting for the above evidence specifically? What documents did you initially submit when you filed your i-751?

Hello! Thanks everyone for your help!

To respond to one of the questions, I am in North Carolina now (haven't updated my profile, I apologize) and still fall under the Vermont Service Center.

I did end up calling USCIS and they said I can indeed apply for Naturalization at any time, but should promptly send all the paperwork requested in the RFE for lifting of conditions.

The person on the phone also recommended I set up an infopass to request an extension, since both my green card and my extension letter are expired and it's becoming a headache. I am going to the office next week.

To answer your question, here is what I submitted originally (they sent me this comprehensive list in the RFE, I am just typing it for you all):

 

Identification documents

2013,14 and 15 IRS joint partial tax documents with no evidence they were properly filed with IRS

a document addressed to your spouse from [insurance company] listing you as the beneficiary

miscellaneous joint mail

the [bank] statement lists you and your spouse as joint account holders, however only covers one month of your marriage

joint health insurance

a document from [bank] addressed to your spouse

and [energy company] bill addressed in your spouse's name

a change of address confirmation made by you

 

Further bona fides of the marriage are being requested.

 

Here it goes on to list about 20 items (including affidavits of support) of things I should be sending in as proof of marriage.

We have no kids, no mortgage and no loans together (we are debt free), so that's a bit unsettling. Although I can definitely do a better job at sending bank information that covers our entire marriage and the "proper" IRS paperwork (still unsure what that is).

I am thinking of writing a letter explaining the purpose of each piece of evidence like: "the envelopes addressed to both me and my spouse are proof that we have lived together for 3 years" It seems to me that they missed that point ("miscellaneous joint mail").

 

Anyway, thanks everyone for the advice and for taking the time to respond!

 

M.

 

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@Sol Mari USCIS asked you the confirmation of your changed address?

VERMONT SERVICE CENTER - I-751 ROC

05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail - END OF I-751 JOURNEY!

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12/18

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

02/28/19: In Line for Interview

03/01/19: Interview Date is on 04/08/19

04/08/19: Interview Day: Approved on the spot

04/09/19: We Scheduled your Oath Ceremony 

04/12/19: Oath Letter arrived in the mail

05/02/19: Oath Ceremony - OFFICIALLY U.S. CITIZEN AND END OF IMMIGRATION JOURNEY!

 

DS-11 - APPLICATION FOR US PASSPORT BOOK AND CARD

05/02/19: Submitted application thru USPS - Expedited
05/06/19: Received email, passport application is now traceable online thru Travel.State.gov website (https://passportstatus.state.gov/Search)

05/08/19: Received email, passport has been printed and it's on final processing
05/09/19: Received email, passport application has been finished processing with USPS tracking number and expected delivery is on 05/14/2019

05/10/19: Receive email from USPS informed Delivery - Expected Passport delivery is on 05/11/2019

05/11/19: Passport book received thru USPS Priority Mail

05/13/19: Passport card received

05/14/19: Naturalization Certificate back - END OF PASSPORT APPLICATION!

 

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You don't need mortgages or loans but are both your names listed on car/home deeds or rental? As for the tax stuff, maybe get transcripts from the IRS websites, since they say they want proper IRS paperwork? Transcripts are proof taxes were indeed filed.

The K1 journey:                                                                                                                             The AOS journey:

11/09/2013 - I-129F Packet mailed to Dallas Lockbox                                                                                         06/22/2015 - AOS packet mailed to Chicago Lockbox

02/14/2014 - Case shipped to Embassy, where it waited for over a year at my request                                 11/07/2015 - AOS approved (EAD and AP had already been approved) - there was no interview

05/21/2015 - Interview - Approved

06/19/2015 - Wedding (L) 

                                                                                                                                                                      

The ROC journey:                                                                                                                         

10/12/2017 - ROC packet mailed to VSC

01/21/2019 - ROC Approved - there was no interview

 

The N-400 journey:

02/16/2020 - N-400 application filed online

02/21/2020 - Paper NOA received in the mail

03/13/2020 - Biometrics

02/02/2021 - Interview & test - Approved

02/05/2021 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

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4 hours ago, Lemon23 said:

@Sol Mari USCIS asked you the confirmation of your changed address?

No, it was just the only letter I had at the time with my name on it, since we had just moved into our apartment in NC when I sent the paperwork for the lifting of conditions.

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4 hours ago, SparklePony said:

You don't need mortgages or loans but are both your names listed on car/home deeds or rental? As for the tax stuff, maybe get transcripts from the IRS websites, since they say they want proper IRS paperwork? Transcripts are proof taxes were indeed filed.

only our rental lease, which is just a piece of paper signed by the landlord and both of us. No notary signature or stamp. Would that serve as evidence?

I am doing the IRS online thing today.

 

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