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Hello friends,

This is a bit embarrassing, but I hope you can help :help:

I am in the process of applying for a K-1 visa for my Khmer fiance. However, when I met her she was working at a bar and there was an exchange of money for services on two occasions. She had only been working at the bar for 2 weeks and had never left with a man before.

We are trying to decide whether to be honest and disclose this in our cover letters or lie and say we met somewhere else. Does the former disqualify her from getting a visa? It will no doubt raise suspicion, and the embassy there already has a very high denial rate from what I've heard.

I know "just worked there for 2 weeks" sounds like a BS story but it's the truth so if you could please answer under the assumption of so I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks! :)

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Consult the appropriate regional subforum for specific stories.

"Moral turpitude" is a definite reason for refusal of visas.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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The USCIS only knows what you tell them... And, trust me, people only tell the USCIS what they want them to know.

Honestly, unless there is a "reason" for you to tell the USCIS that your gal is a "bar girl," and I have no idea what that reason might be for you to tell the USCIS that you gal is a "bar girl,"don't do it!

Best of luck,

Sid

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hi, it dont sound good,it could be a go go bar,she gets tips it could be alap dance,receive tips,and you know this this one prostitution being payed for services,this is a tricky one i cant tell you to lie. go to your regional forums cambodia you may get some information on that,good luck

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Hello friends,

This is a bit embarrassing, but I hope you can help :help:

I am in the process of applying for a K-1 visa for my Khmer fiance. However, when I met her she was working at a bar and there was an exchange of money for services on two occasions. She had only been working at the bar for 2 weeks and had never left with a man before.

We are trying to decide whether to be honest and disclose this in our cover letters or lie and say we met somewhere else. Does the former disqualify her from getting a visa? It will no doubt raise suspicion, and the embassy there already has a very high denial rate from what I've heard.

I know "just worked there for 2 weeks" sounds like a BS story but it's the truth so if you could please answer under the assumption of so I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks! :)

"When we met she worked at a bar" did you meet at the bar? Through my process they only asked where/how we met, we met at a bar seems like a reasonable place. They also asked where we both work, does she still work at the bar? If not no reason to bring it up. Unless there is reason to delve into personal questions I can't imagine all this coming up.

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The truth will come out at some point. This process thrives on the truth. Even if she is granted a visa, it can be revoked and she can be deported if it's found that "material misrepresentation" was committed at any time during the process. Be up-front with it. If she's ineligible for a visa, at least you'll find out early and save yourself a LOT of time.

Your information isn't necessarily something that you have to tell USCIS except in appropriate places on forms, but you WILL have to tell the embassy -- or they'll find out on their own, in which case you're sunk.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I dont see why you have to tell them you exchanged services... Its just like any of us disclosing when we had sex with our significant other, its inappropriate. You can say you met each other at a bar she was working at. Then talk about the appropriate things you all did together from there. In my opinion you wouldnt be lying by saying as much

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well since you directed how you want us to advice you by assumption, Bar girls/stripper doesn't mean she is bad or going to get a visa denial my friend has been married now 10yrs to a stripper he met and they fell in love the have three kids....though at earlier years they had personal issues but they worked and stayed honest...so just don't tell uscis about her working on the bar Go on filling your paperwork and building a mutual trust among one another and discovering your differences along the way and working it together. take sometime to know a person more than few years. good luck battle!

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Just some more aspects to consider with madtownguy's post. The majority of bar girls are into shabu (meth). She may have only done it for two weeks, but is she going to continue while you are waiting for the K1 to process? Bar girls tend to be high maintenance women. But, after you have thought things through very carefully and you still proceed, I agree that you only tell significants to how you met. Something simple like you met at a bar, and maybe give times where you met up to do things. I assume you did more together than just meet at a bar and had two times with the exchange of service, if you are planning on going through the K1 process.

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Cambodia is a tough consulate. Speculating from other posts and stories that where added here on VJ, I have a feeling that the COs will ask further questions at the interview and drill her about what kind of bar it was.

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Most people on here are exchanging money at some point. I sent my fiancee money and also gave some money to her and her family. However there was never a discussion as to specifically the reason for giving money. Do you really need to disclose all your personal conversations?

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Most people on here are exchanging money at some point. I sent my fiancee money and also gave some money to her and her family. However there was never a discussion as to specifically the reason for giving money. Do you really need to disclose all your personal conversations?

I agree with L+T i give my fiancee 1200.00 a month for living expenses plus I pay all of her and the little one's medical and school expenses and I have been doing this for 6 years... I true relationship is based on trust, honesty and doing the right thing. I plan on marrying my loved one regardless if we get visa or not. Love is a sacrifice and commitment one makes and somethings are meant to stay personal. You only give the information they ask nothing more nothing less....

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