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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: England
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My husband, the resident green card holder needs to go back to the UK for awhile. He misses his family terribly. Hw long can he stay away? Is this allowed? We don't want to jeopardize his status here.

We are very happily married since May 2012. 2 weeks visits a year just aren't enough. He has an aging mother and growing children. 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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7 minutes ago, lei1111 said:

My husband, the resident green card holder needs to go back to the UK for awhile. He misses his family terribly. Hw long can he stay away? Is this allowed? We don't want to jeopardize his status here.

We are very happily married since May 2012. 2 weeks visits a year just aren't enough. He has an aging mother and growing children. 

How long do you want it to be?

YMMV

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There is no hard limit time-wise, but there is a presumption of abandoning status if you leave for more than a year.

A re-entry permit can allow for up to 2 years abroad at a time.

Avoid taking actions that might cause one to wonder if they abandoned residency (i.e. claiming residency elsewhere), and file US taxes as required still.

 

Time abroad can break physical presence and/or continuous residency for naturalization purposes.

If he becomes a US citizen first, then there is no limit at all - stay abroad as long as you want.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/abandonment-residence-green-card-holders.html

 

"being away from the U.S. for longer than six months will raise suspicion and questions, and being away for more than a year guarantees that you will have to attend an Immigration Court hearing before you can reclaim your U.S. residency and green card."

 

But a re-entry permit allows up to 2 years.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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5 minutes ago, lei1111 said:

My husband, the resident green card holder needs to go back to the UK for awhile. He misses his family terribly. Hw long can he stay away? Is this allowed? We don't want to jeopardize his status here.

We are very happily married since May 2012. 2 weeks visits a year just aren't enough. He has an aging mother and growing children. 

Generally:

 

1. 0-6 months: No problem

2. 6-12 months: CBP might/might not start asking questions upon re-entry. If questioned, the LPR needs to be ready to present evidence that he/she did not abandon his/her permanent residency, such as: maintainance of domicile in the US, filing of US taxes, a job, ... 

3. 12 months - 2 years: allowed only with advanced permission from USCIS by filing a re-entry permit. 

4. Over 2 years: Not allowed. 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: England
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So then, if he goes for say 5 months then returns to our US home this should be ok? Generally speaking. We are by no means wealthy so he would have to work the 5 months he was in the UK then come home and again find employment. We would of course file taxes and maintain our home together. 

We don't need to seek permission for less than 6 months. Correct?

Would 5 months per year, annually be an acceptable situation? Generally speaking of course. 

lei

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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1 minute ago, lei1111 said:

So then, if he goes for say 5 months then returns to our US home this should be ok? Generally speaking. We are by no means wealthy so he would have to work the 5 months he was in the UK then come home and again find employment. We would of course file taxes and maintain our home together. 

We don't need to seek permission for less than 6 months. Correct?

Would 5 months per year, annually be an acceptable situation? Generally speaking of course. 

5 months should not be an issue...no permission needed....safe travels!!!!

Edited by missileman

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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11 minutes ago, lei1111 said:

Would 5 months per year, annually be an acceptable situation? Generally speaking of course. 

It's probably fine. He needs to file taxes for the income that he makes while outside of the US as well. Generally speaking, you want to spend time inside the US more than outside, since it is your "permanent residence"

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: England
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2 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

It's probably fine. He needs to file taxes for the income that he makes while outside of the US as well. Generally speaking, you want to spend time inside the US more than outside, since it is your "permanent residence"

 

Thank you! I am not even sure how we will do that but we will learn! 

lei

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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31 minutes ago, lei1111 said:

So then, if he goes for say 5 months then returns to our US home this should be ok? Generally speaking. We are by no means wealthy so he would have to work the 5 months he was in the UK then come home and again find employment. We would of course file taxes and maintain our home together. 

We don't need to seek permission for less than 6 months. Correct?

Would 5 months per year, annually be an acceptable situation? Generally speaking of course. 

You do not need an Advanced Parole unless the absence will be over 12 months.  As @USS_Voyagermentioned, between 6-12 months there may be additional scrutiny by CBP, but I think this would only happen if it became a regular occurrence (i.e. leave the US for 8 months, come back for 2 and then be gone for another 8 months, etc.).

 

Good Luck!

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US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

You do not need an Advanced Parole unless the absence will be over 12 months.  As @USS_Voyagermentioned, between 6-12 months there may be additional scrutiny by CBP, but I think this would only happen if it became a regular occurrence (i.e. leave the US for 8 months, come back for 2 and then be gone for another 8 months, etc.).

 

Good Luck!

** Re-entry permit, not AP

 

OP, please note your husband should act like a visitor when he's in the UK - no claims of residence for healthcare or work purposes.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

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Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

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07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

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15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Denmark
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A little of topic but you have gotten all your answers but have you guys thought of applying for USC? He has been here long enough and can apply after the 5 year rule that way he can spend as much time out of the country he wants without any effect. 

 

 

 

 

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Filed: Other Country: Saudi Arabia
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9 hours ago, USS_Voyager said:

Generally:

 

1. 0-6 months: No problem

2. 6-12 months: CBP might/might not start asking questions upon re-entry. If questioned, the LPR needs to be ready to present evidence that he/she did not abandon his/her permanent residency, such as: maintainance of domicile in the US, filing of US taxes, a job, ... 

3. 12 months - 2 years: allowed only with advanced permission from USCIS by filing a re-entry permit. 

4. Over 2 years: Requires SB1 returning resident visa to re-enter, assuming green card holder left with a re-entry permit (and) is qualified for immigration benefits in every other way

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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3 hours ago, Georgia16 said:

A little of topic but you have gotten all your answers but have you guys thought of applying for USC? He has been here long enough and can apply after the 5 year rule that way he can spend as much time out of the country he wants without any effect. 

I agree with @Georgia16

 

 

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