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Thank you everyone for your answering all my questions, I just got done getting my 2nd KITAS  here in Indo and now starting our 3rd attempt for my wife’s visa,so glad this group exists because it can get a bit confusing for us. 

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So if I made 0 dollars this year but have a significant amount of money in the bank, I’d still have to prove I’m making money ? I’ve also heard that you had to make at least 63k a year how my wife got this number is from a group she chats on WhatsApp. I make 70k to 100k when I sell roofs which is seasonal but again didn’t work this year. Will a letter verifying I still work from my employer work without a co-sponsor ? It’s hard for me because I am a salesman who makes commission only. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Halo Bule said:

So if I made 0 dollars this year but have a significant amount of money in the bank, I’d still have to prove I’m making money ? I’ve also heard that you had to make at least 63k a year how my wife got this number is from a group she chats on WhatsApp. I make 70k to 100k when I sell roofs which is seasonal but again didn’t work this year. Will a letter verifying I still work from my employer work without a co-sponsor ? It’s hard for me because I am a salesman who makes commission only.

Assets can be included in lieu of, or in combination with, income. They are treated at a 3:1 ratio for a spouse ($3 in assets = $1 in income).

The minimum income thresholds are here: https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p. The amount required for satisfaction of the CO is a judgement call based on the totality of the circumstances.

A letter may confirm you still work for him, but you would still have no current income.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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On 8/13/2019 at 2:04 PM, missileman said:

No, but you must be able to provide complete legal marriage termination documents for all previous marriages.

It is my understanding that the USA wants to make sure you have only one person as it is illegal in the USA to be married to more than one. Thus, they ask for your previous marriage records and divorces

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@HKS yes I understand this and with every new marriage you need to show a divorce decree. You would think the last one would be sufficient but no, I’ll have to dig up the other two which I showed on the last. Either way my wife is getting fed up with this system and has already almost given up. We’re traveling to 5 other countries meanwhile together with her family next month. Each immigration office treated her with respect, actually listened , and gave advice  compared to the disrespect and ridiculous assumptions she got from the us consulate. Only American consulates are trained to automatically assume everyone’s intention is to move into their country. It’s absolutely ridiculous.  We got married in Catholic Church so... we already proved we were both completely divorced. I just wish the government wasn’t so ###### robotic and showed just a little bit of compassion or humanity ..... Plenty of other countries to visit and my parents already told us not to worry about meeting my wife. They just want us to be happy. I haven’t given up yet but I might just wait for another year. By that time my wife will have at least 20 stamps proving that her ties are strongest in her home Indonesia. By then I hope to find a job in Indonesia as well showing my ties are stronger here too. If it were up to me I’d just stay here in paradise. It’s my wife’s dream to see a couple places Where I was born and to meet my parents. No need to reply about how a green card is not for visitation, it’s a permanent thing. Just doing what we have to do for now.

thanks again for everyone’s input. 

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2 hours ago, Halo Bule said:

@HKS yes I understand this and with every new marriage you need to show a divorce decree. You would think the last one would be sufficient but no, I’ll have to dig up the other two which I showed on the last. Either way my wife is getting fed up with this system and has already almost given up. We’re traveling to 5 other countries meanwhile together with her family next month. Each immigration office treated her with respect, actually listened , and gave advice  compared to the disrespect and ridiculous assumptions she got from the us consulate. Only American consulates are trained to automatically assume everyone’s intention is to move into their country. It’s absolutely ridiculous.  We got married in Catholic Church so... we already proved we were both completely divorced. I just wish the government wasn’t so ###### robotic and showed just a little bit of compassion or humanity ..... Plenty of other countries to visit and my parents already told us not to worry about meeting my wife. They just want us to be happy. I haven’t given up yet but I might just wait for another year. By that time my wife will have at least 20 stamps proving that her ties are strongest in her home Indonesia. By then I hope to find a job in Indonesia as well showing my ties are stronger here too. If it were up to me I’d just stay here in paradise. It’s my wife’s dream to see a couple places Where I was born and to meet my parents. No need to reply about how a green card is not for visitation, it’s a permanent thing. Just doing what we have to do for now.

thanks again for everyone’s input. 

Oh I totally understand!! 

I'm pretty sick of it as well. My husband and I are perfectly happy staying in Iraq, but want to be able to come and go from my home country as well as his. 

Good luck. I'm happy yall are able to travel and b together. 

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I take it you have someone who will be prepared to be a Joint Sponsor. It is of course a big ask.

 

Also suggest your wife checks in to the tax issues as she will be subject to US tax on her world wide income. Could be quite complicated.

 

 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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@Boiler I have my father that will be a joint sponsor. He has Parkinson’s but is willing to be one. I’m not sure if there are special qualifications he must meet first. My employer / partner in Colorado would write a letter stating I am still employed and what my average income has been over the years. My landlord / friend in Colorado where my legal address and room is at , will also write a letter stating we have housing there.

my taxes are up to date as well as my wife’s quarterly taxes which are also up to date. I’m a little confused to what you are referring to as “world wide income “ as she makes her living in Indonesia. If she has to , she can sign the business over to our daughter who will be running it anyway.  Why does our situation seem to be getting harder and harder , the more I stay on the sight the more I become aware of things but, my God ..... do We have a right to feel overwhelmed by all this bullshit ?

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1 minute ago, Halo Bule said:

what my average income has been over the years....... I’m a little confused to what you are referring to as “world wide income “ as she makes her living in Indonesia.

"What my income has been" is not the same as current income.......once your wife has a green card, ALL her income will be subject to US income tax reporting....regardless of where the Green Card holder earned it.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, Halo Bule said:

@Boiler I have my father that will be a joint sponsor. He has Parkinson’s but is willing to be one. I’m not sure if there are special qualifications he must meet first. My employer / partner in Colorado would write a letter stating I am still employed and what my average income has been over the years. My landlord / friend in Colorado where my legal address and room is at will also write a letter stating we have housing there.

my taxes are up to date as well as my wife’s quarterly taxes which are also up to date. I’m a little confused to what you are referring to as “world wide income “ as she makes her living in Indonesia.

thanks

The only qualification is that he must have his own ample income/assets to meet the minimum income requirement to be a joint sponsor. As a US permanent resident, your wife will have to file taxes in the US every year even if the income was not made in the US.

Our CR1 Journey:

 

USCIS Stage:

  • Feb 14 2019: NOA1 (NSC)
  • July 31 2019: I129f NOA1
  • Sep 19 2019: I129f NOA2 (Denied - 50 days from NOA1)
  • Sep 19 2019: I130 NOA2 (Approved - 217 days from NOA1)

 

NVC Stage:

  • Sep 27 2019: Sent to Department of State
  • Oct 31 2019: Case number received (34 days since sent)
  • Nov 1 2019: IV & AOS fees received & paid
  • Nov 14 2019: IV & AOS submitted
  • Dec 18 2019: All docs accepted, but one additional doc requested (5 weeks from submission)
  • Dec 18 2019: Requested doc submitted
  • Feb 19 2020: Documentarily Qualified (9 weeks from 2nd submission, 14 weeks from first submission)

 

Interview Stage:

  • Mar 11 2020: Interview letter received
  • Apr 1 2020: Interview date
  • Mar 17 2020: Interview cancelled due to COVID-19
  • August 3 2020: Rescheduled letter received, new appointment August 25 2020
  • August 25 2020: Visa approved at interview! (558 days from NOA1)
  • September 10 2020: Embassy received passport in mail
  • September 15 2020: Passport with visa in hand

 

October 11 2020: Arrived in US!

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@missleman yes, the minute I step foot on a airplane headed to Colorado is when my income starts again including airfare..... Truck for work, gas and all expenses. 

So your trying to tell me if my wife pays her taxes in Indonesia and everything is up to date and the business is signed over to her daughter , then she will still have to do what ? Report what ?

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Shouldn’t it be simple, I have x amount dollars saved in my account which is enough for both of us to live on for 10 years in USA., I will also have joint sponsor, I have a job  with salary plus commission . I’m above the poverty line , I never went on welfare etc, I pay my taxes. What the hockey puck else do they need ?

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2 minutes ago, Halo Bule said:

So your trying to tell me if my wife pays her taxes in Indonesia and everything is up to date and the business is signed over to her daughter , then she will still have to do what ? Report what ?

I'm saying all income earned by a Green card Holder is subject to US tax law regardless of where in the world the income is earned.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Halo Bule said:

@missleman yes, the minute I step foot on a airplane headed to Colorado is when my income starts again including airfare..... Truck for work, gas and all expenses. 

So your trying to tell me if my wife pays her taxes in Indonesia and everything is up to date and the business is signed over to her daughter , then she will still have to do what ? Report what ?

She has to report any income made in Indonesia to the US as well on her US taxes and pay any income taxes due to the US, even if the income was made in Indonesia (usually you are exempt from paying taxes off foreign income unless it's over $100k a year, but it MUST still be reported on US taxes even if it's under $100k). So yes she has to report ANY Indonesian income or any other foreign income on her US taxes every single year. Just reporting it to Indonesia doesn't cut it she must file US taxes as well

Our CR1 Journey:

 

USCIS Stage:

  • Feb 14 2019: NOA1 (NSC)
  • July 31 2019: I129f NOA1
  • Sep 19 2019: I129f NOA2 (Denied - 50 days from NOA1)
  • Sep 19 2019: I130 NOA2 (Approved - 217 days from NOA1)

 

NVC Stage:

  • Sep 27 2019: Sent to Department of State
  • Oct 31 2019: Case number received (34 days since sent)
  • Nov 1 2019: IV & AOS fees received & paid
  • Nov 14 2019: IV & AOS submitted
  • Dec 18 2019: All docs accepted, but one additional doc requested (5 weeks from submission)
  • Dec 18 2019: Requested doc submitted
  • Feb 19 2020: Documentarily Qualified (9 weeks from 2nd submission, 14 weeks from first submission)

 

Interview Stage:

  • Mar 11 2020: Interview letter received
  • Apr 1 2020: Interview date
  • Mar 17 2020: Interview cancelled due to COVID-19
  • August 3 2020: Rescheduled letter received, new appointment August 25 2020
  • August 25 2020: Visa approved at interview! (558 days from NOA1)
  • September 10 2020: Embassy received passport in mail
  • September 15 2020: Passport with visa in hand

 

October 11 2020: Arrived in US!

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3 hours ago, Halo Bule said:

@HKS yes I understand this and with every new marriage you need to show a divorce decree. You would think the last one would be sufficient but no, I’ll have to dig up the other two which I showed on the last. Either way my wife is getting fed up with this system and has already almost given up. We’re traveling to 5 other countries meanwhile together with her family next month. Each immigration office treated her with respect, actually listened , and gave advice  compared to the disrespect and ridiculous assumptions she got from the us consulate. Only American consulates are trained to automatically assume everyone’s intention is to move into their country. It’s absolutely ridiculous.  We got married in Catholic Church so... we already proved we were both completely divorced. I just wish the government wasn’t so ###### robotic and showed just a little bit of compassion or humanity ..... Plenty of other countries to visit and my parents already told us not to worry about meeting my wife. They just want us to be happy. I haven’t given up yet but I might just wait for another year. By that time my wife will have at least 20 stamps proving that her ties are strongest in her home Indonesia. By then I hope to find a job in Indonesia as well showing my ties are stronger here too. If it were up to me I’d just stay here in paradise. It’s my wife’s dream to see a couple places Where I was born and to meet my parents. No need to reply about how a green card is not for visitation, it’s a permanent thing. Just doing what we have to do for now.

thanks again for everyone’s input. 

Please understand that with the divorce decrees it isn't as hard as it seems. You can literally request to get them with the county it was filed in. Do you remember where you were, what city you were in when you were divorced? Then call that courthouse and ask how they do it. Its different in some states but I know in Texas you just have to email them and ask them to mail it to your home address. It's that simple! (aside from the payment.)

 

This process isn't as difficult as it seems, really. The difficult part is the waiting I have found.

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