visa fraud I got scammed...

[ThomasNC1988 762]

Take your "evidence" to USCIS and give it a whirl. Sadly they don't care if your wife was carrying on a FB messenger relationship with someone years ago especially if you knew about it before you chose to bring her to the US. How can they determine you guys didn't move past this as millions of people do every year.

[Crazy Cat 39,312]

7 minutes ago, James&Maggie said:

I discovered the letters in her Facebook messenger. Each of them wrote a letter, took a photo, and sent them on Facebook messenger. I only discovered these the following May 2016. I found these letters and numerous photos, text messages, and emails.  The fact that these are hand written, signed, and dated is why I feel they’re important. I have other unsigned notes. The fact that her visa had not been granted until June 2016 means she knew the marriage was fraudulent on 31 July 2015.

You have a tough case to prove........unless she said that she married you to get a green card, I think you are spinning your wheels.......by the way, exactly what do you hope to gain by "getting her deported"?  

Edited December 13, 2018 by missileman

[SJ_Ulloa 46]

25 minutes ago, James&Maggie said:

You have to love really great evidence 

It sounds like your ego and pride is bruised. There are so many questions- 1. how did you come about these letters as one member states this letter from the other man looks to be on a legal pad. 

 

Yes it sucks to feel taken advantage of however what your are insinuating is just a woman who wrote love letters to another man and vice versa... You cannot make the determination that she needs to go- kick her out of your house, out of your life in a sense however you cannot kick her out of the country, especially when you willingly participated in her journey here - child or not. Any parent would do what they had to for their child's well beings however you could have gone about it in another way. Joint custody, etc. You made the decision as a man to bring her here, and play house with a woman who you knew was "emotionally" unfaithful... Do you know if they ever had physical interaction? If they did how positive are you this child you mention is even yours. 

 

Alot to take in with this situation but as many others stated- the only thing you can do now as a man and as a father is co-parent, and teach your son how to be a good person, do not bad mouth his mother to him or in front of him... put your personal feelings aside and let go, swallow your pride and move on with your life. Her future is out of your hands. 

 

 

 

[aaron2020 11,651]

Bye Felicia.

[Tjbox 17]

6 minutes ago, James&Maggie said:

I discovered the letters in her Facebook messenger. Each of them wrote a letter, took a photo, and sent them on Facebook messenger. I only discovered these the following May 2016. I found these letters and numerous photos, text messages, and emails.  The fact that these are hand written, signed, and dated is why I feel they’re important. I have other unsigned notes. The fact that her visa had not been granted until June 2016 means she knew the marriage was fraudulent on 31 July 2015.

I wonder how she responded when u brought up this letters issue to her. and when she found out u been sneaking into her facebook messages. 

[Ash.1101 1,755]

13 minutes ago, James&Maggie said:

I discovered the letters in her Facebook messenger. Each of them wrote a letter, took a photo, and sent them on Facebook messenger. I only discovered these the following May 2016. I found these letters and numerous photos, text messages, and emails.  The fact that these are hand written, signed, and dated is why I feel they’re important. I have other unsigned notes. The fact that her visa had not been granted until June 2016 means she knew the marriage was fraudulent on 31 July 2015.

Would have been better evidence to have screenshot facebook messenger showing the conversations between them with time stamps and dates the pictures were sent, which is what almost ANY other person would have done.. Just what you found looks more shady than anything else and makes your case look worse.

And again, you straight up said that you brought her here knowing this. Ya'll got married, maybe the relationship wasn't what she wanted and she talked to another guy. She may have totally of loved you WHEN she married you. Maybe in the back of her heart she wanted to try to make it work. That sucks for you, but then you still bring her here.You had to of, honesty would have said "I don't love this woman anymore, she cheated, I'm only here for my kid". 

You went to this AOS interview KNOWING you wanted to leave her, you also lied to the US government. Again, you still come across as an angry ex.

There is no real concrete proof without her straight up telling the guy "I'm going to bring you to the US once I divorce my husband".

I agree that you come off as a troll. Your evidence is INCREDIBLY weak and it looks fabricated.

As another said, this is something you knew about before bringing her to the country, USICS could have easily assumed that you got over it and worked through it.

"I discovered some months later she’d been writing love letters to another guy"

" I only discovered these the following May 2016"

According to the timeline first interview was March 2016, Second interview was June 2016, a month after you found out.

If you're going to prove fraud you need to get your facts straight for USCIS.

Edited December 13, 2018 by Ash.1101

[Tjbox 17]

1 minute ago, Ash.1101 said:

Would have been better evidence to have screenshot facebook messenger showing the conversations between them with time stamps and dates the pictures were sent, which is what almost ANY other person would have done.. Just what you found looks more shady than anything else and makes your case look worse.

And again, you straight up said that you brought her here knowing this. Ya'll got married, maybe the relationship wasn't what she wanted and she talked to another guy. She may have totally of loved you WHEN she married you. Maybe in the back of her heart she wanted to try to make it work. That sucks for you, but then you still bring her here.You had to of, honesty would have said "I don't love this woman anymore, she cheated, I'm only here for my kid". 

You went to this AOS interview KNOWING you wanted to leave her, you also lied to the US government. Again, you still come across as an angry ex.

There is no real concrete proof without her straight up telling the guy "I'm going to bring you to the US once I divorce my husband".

I agree that you come off as a troll. Your evidence is INCREDIBLY weak and it looks fabricated.

Printscreen wouldt catch these beautiful letters very clearly 

[*Snowdrop* 603]

Also - that doesn't make any sense to write letters by hand and then photograph them and send them by messenger - if you are already communicating by messenger you would just type your feelings to each other. 

 

Is this 'other man' American? If not, why were they writing in English to each other?

 

Your evidence looks completely fabricated. 

 

Even if it was real, it's also not evidence of visa/immigration fraud. 

 

Infidelity is not a reason for deportation.

Edited December 13, 2018 by Trellick

[aaron2020 11,651]

Remember that time that you wrote a letter on a piece of paper, took a photo and sent it to your lover because writing an email or a text was too hard?

They can send a digital photo but texting and emailing was too hard.

 

lol

Edited December 13, 2018 by aaron2020

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Those letters sound like two highschoolers wrote them. Good grief.

[Tjbox 17]

10 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

Remember that time that you wrote a letter on a piece of paper, took a photo and sent it to your lover because writing an email or a text was too hard?

They can send a digital photo but texting and emailing was too hard.

 

lol

Lets ask brandon about this

[Gibus 202]

I could read this thread eating popcorn 😂😂

[usmsbow 796]

35 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

Those letters sound like two highschoolers wrote them. Good grief.

 

Yeah, I just briefly skimmed the letters and thought they were written by teenagers. For a second I thought the OP had taken photos of MY old letters with an ex way back in my high school days... 

 

 

[Russ&Caro 1,548]

Pretty interesting timeline on this case. She arrived in the US exactly on their 2 year wedding anniversary date so there was likely knowledge for both of them that this would lead to a permanent green card, and they would avoid paying for ROC application. She had the visa in hand a month before POE so her arrival on the 2 year anniversary was not coincidental.

 

She stayed with him for over a year which indicates some effort to make the marriage work. With a 10 year green card she would have known she could leave him at any time with no consequences to her immigration status but instead she stuck it out for a year. I wonder if they did any marriage counseling. She probably has a ton of evidence that the marriage was bona fide.

 

I also wonder what she got in the divorce, if anything. He did mention $20,000, maybe that was it. Originally I was thinking that was what it cost to bring her to the US.

[Carpe Vinum 2,310]

47 minutes ago, Trellick said:

Also - that doesn't make any sense to write letters by hand and then photograph them and send them by messenger - if you are already communicating by messenger you would just type your feelings to each other. 

 

 

My fiance does this from time to time...A personal touch. I think it is a little cute))