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Does Section 221(g) mean Administrative Processing? I need help please.

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OK, of course there will be nothing officially published but unofficially there is a lot of information, just hang around here.

 

This is a few years old but from a well respected Immigration Lawyer commenting on Consulate classifications:

 

Low

Medium

High

Lagos (Nigeria)

 

Now Pakistan would be High, I do not think it merits its own mention. Also has by far the longest AP, for fairly obvious reasons.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Right. Islamabad has had a running AP thread in the forums here for years.  Visa applicants sit in AP for a very long time. 

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I only asked for help and advice on about what to do about the chat records and what a 221g white slip meant. I did my research and now me and my husband are doing exactly what's asked of us. Yesterday I was really caught off guard.  Now some of you are going off topic about fraud in Pakistan.  Fraud can happen anywhere in the world. I'm not a statistic or number, neither is my husband. We are humans with real feelings. I agree there is bad people all over the world but there is also good people too. It's dishonest people that have bad intentions that make it harder for couples like us. People can fall in love with whom ever they  choose to. Now if people want to judge us, that's fine... they can. Only he and I and and our families know what we've been though together at the end of the day. I respect this website because it's given me good advice on how to help me with my process up to this point.  I understand that AP has to be done in some cases and it's the officers job to do their part. We also want to be treated with respect and dignity. I respect their jobs and am not knocking them down either. I only wish the best for couples and i'm happy they are finally reunited with their loved ones. If it wasn't for my husband's comforting words and unconditional love I don't know how I could remain calm... 

 

And to those of you that are stating it could raise red flags because I married my husband the first time I visited him - I cannot afford to make trips back and forth. I came there to meet my husband and his family after spending three years together everyday with each other on Skype for several hours a day. I have the proof to back me up. I captured our moments together so I can look back and reminisce and I am glad I did that. I was facing financial problems at the time and had to save all I could to finally meet him and it was the best times of our lives. To finally be with the person you love was like a dream come true with me. I had to pinch myself because I couldn't believe we were finally together in person. :) I wish my visa lasted 3 months. I have no problem visiting my husband. I'd do it over and over again. We discussed getting married to each other for three years and anticipated would it would be like to finally meet and embrace each other after so long. And boy was it worth it in the end and I'll still keep fighting  any obstacles we'll face because we are prepared for all of that. My husband and I are always talking about how I plan to visit him again and this time I'd love to stay longer with him if my visa permits it. 

 

I'm sorry if I've made this too long now or personal. The point is we won't let anything bother us and get over this hurdle. That's all we can do. Sure, of course our feelings were hurt but we have to do our work now and that's the most important thing we can do. I am confident about everything we submitted. I was only requested to show if there was possible records for the first day of our chat. When I wrote this i was really overwhelmed, now I am just trying to do my work. Again, I use visa journey as my main source for help and i'm thankful for the help it has given me so far from the users on here and guidelines. 

 

Just want to say thank you for all those that replied me and gave me useful advice. It means a lot to me.

 

-Diana

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I don't think anyone is judging you here. Posters were explaining why it is important to give extremely strong evidence regarding your marriage especially in Pakistan.  Then someone totally denied that Pakistan is one of the countries on "the list".  

As I said, no one is judging you.  We all hope you succeed in this journey.  

BTW, they kept his passport.....that is a very good sign......unfortunately, many cases there experience a long administrative processing period.  If they asked for something on the 221g slip, provide it in detail..........please keep us informed......Best of Luck to you and your family..

 

 

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Don't take the off-topic tangent personally...it went off topic a bit because the issue surrounding the officer thinking of possible fraud came up earlier on in this thread...not that you and your husband were being fraudulent.  Sometimes in a forum of this size, side-conversations can happen as different points are brought up, debated, debunked, what-have-you.

 

It's sad and stressful for you and your loved one to be going through this right now, especially when you know you have an honest relationship.  Unfortunately, there are bad apples in every corner of every country that spoils things for the rest of us and makes the immigration process much harder on everyone trying to do things "right".  Be comforted by the knowledge that you ARE in a bonafide relationship, and have nothing to hide by giving them the further documentation they require.  I wish you both well.

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10 hours ago, DianaB said:

I only asked for help and advice on about what to do about the chat records and what a 221g white slip meant. I did my research and now me and my husband are doing exactly what's asked of us. Yesterday I was really caught off guard.  Now some of you are going off topic about fraud in Pakistan.  Fraud can happen anywhere in the world. I'm not a statistic or number, neither is my husband. We are humans with real feelings. I agree there is bad people all over the world but there is also good people too. It's dishonest people that have bad intentions that make it harder for couples like us. People can fall in love with whom ever they  choose to. Now if people want to judge us, that's fine... they can. Only he and I and and our families know what we've been though together at the end of the day. I respect this website because it's given me good advice on how to help me with my process up to this point.  I understand that AP has to be done in some cases and it's the officers job to do their part. We also want to be treated with respect and dignity. I respect their jobs and am not knocking them down either. I only wish the best for couples and i'm happy they are finally reunited with their loved ones. If it wasn't for my husband's comforting words and unconditional love I don't know how I could remain calm... 

 

And to those of you that are stating it could raise red flags because I married my husband the first time I visited him - I cannot afford to make trips back and forth. I came there to meet my husband and his family after spending three years together everyday with each other on Skype for several hours a day. I have the proof to back me up. I captured our moments together so I can look back and reminisce and I am glad I did that. I was facing financial problems at the time and had to save all I could to finally meet him and it was the best times of our lives. To finally be with the person you love was like a dream come true with me. I had to pinch myself because I couldn't believe we were finally together in person. :) I wish my visa lasted 3 months. I have no problem visiting my husband. I'd do it over and over again. We discussed getting married to each other for three years and anticipated would it would be like to finally meet and embrace each other after so long. And boy was it worth it in the end and I'll still keep fighting  any obstacles we'll face because we are prepared for all of that. My husband and I are always talking about how I plan to visit him again and this time I'd love to stay longer with him if my visa permits it. 

 

I'm sorry if I've made this too long now or personal. The point is we won't let anything bother us and get over this hurdle. That's all we can do. Sure, of course our feelings were hurt but we have to do our work now and that's the most important thing we can do. I am confident about everything we submitted. I was only requested to show if there was possible records for the first day of our chat. When I wrote this i was really overwhelmed, now I am just trying to do my work. Again, I use visa journey as my main source for help and i'm thankful for the help it has given me so far from the users on here and guidelines. 

 

Just want to say thank you for all those that replied me and gave me useful advice. It means a lot to me.

 

-Diana

I am so sorry for what happened to you. I am Iranian and under administrative processing after my interview on August 23rd (master in computer engineering, IT job and my nationality caused it). They gave my passport back and I know we have to wait for a year or so.I received a blue slip and administrative processing box was marked. We got married in May 2016 too.

Officer asked me why we got married on first visit, But when she saw the passport stamps of 3 trips and i explained that we've known each other 2 years before marriage and that we did not want to have a long term relationship out of marriage (because of our religion and culture) she was convinced. She did not even ask for our pics together nor for chat history. My husband and i have same educational degree, same religion and he is just a year older than me and I was still questioned about the marriage on the first visit.

As a young couple i totally understand the money issue for taking more trips, But in Islamic and middle eastern culture men are considered as family provider, so it might be suspicion if you tell you had to save for the trip and you don't have the money for more trips, there will be a question why your husband did not pay for the second trip (I am sure you had your own reasons, I am just trying to help with the possible concerns).

The officers usually get more suspicious about the non-USC spouse and his/her intentions. I know it hurts and sometimes it seems to be unfair.

I really hope the reply you got from the website will help and convince them and your husband gets his visa. Fingers crossed for your family.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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My husband and I went through the same thing at our interview last week.  They mocked my husband to other coworkers in the building and laughed at me as if I was a poor naive girl.  I know its their job and they are trying to protect the American but they completely unprofessional about it.  As I stood up for my husband one of them folded his arms and shook his head.   I do however feel like they have a heart...i wish I could have taken a picture of their faces when they said they were going to recommended it for denial.  I felt like the air left my body and they looked at me with such pity.   I pray that haunts them in their sleep.   My husband is my best friend I can't live without him.

 

Congratulations on your husbands visa!!  So happy to finally hear a happy ending! 

 

~Freda

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On 12/23/2017 at 11:58 PM, Ahmed&Freda said:

My husband and I went through the same thing at our interview last week.  They mocked my husband to other coworkers in the building and laughed at me as if I was a poor naive girl.  I know its their job and they are trying to protect the American but they completely unprofessional about it.  As I stood up for my husband one of them folded his arms and shook his head.   I do however feel like they have a heart...i wish I could have taken a picture of their faces when they said they were going to recommended it for denial.  I felt like the air left my body and they looked at me with such pity.   I pray that haunts them in their sleep.   My husband is my best friend I can't live without him.

 

Congratulations on your husbands visa!!  So happy to finally hear a happy ending! 

 

~Freda

and how did your story finished?

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1 minute ago, YulenkaF said:

and how did your story finished?

Story is still in the making....We are scheduled for a second interview on October 23rd.  

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Just now, Ahmed&Freda said:

Story is still in the making....We are scheduled for a second interview on October 23rd.  

how did they give you possibility to have another interview?  did they say about it during first one?

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1 minute ago, YulenkaF said:

how did they give you possibility to have another interview?  did they say about it during first one?

If you read through my post you can see how the process has been for us so far.

 

  Long story short: case returned to USCIS, we received a NOIR, I sent a rebuttal, it was reaffirmed then transferred back to the embassy for another interview.

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