Amit&Julie

We mailed our packet on January 30th via UPS. We haven't heard anything, but it sounds like we might not for a couple more weeks if people who mailed a month ago are just now getting their checks cashed and receiving texts? Hopeful...

I'm pretty sure Jorge, Nicole, and Benjamin/Akinyi have all been on here before.

Yeah I yelled at the TV "there is no K1 appeal!!!"  And then Michael's lawyer in Nigeria told him to get married and file for K3.  Again I yelled at the TV "you file I30 and then apply for CR1 visa!!!!!!"  I would say it was just staged but I actually believe this is what the lawyers said.  Because when I first called a lawyer (thank goodness I didn't use one) he told me to have my husband come on a tourist visa and then marry and adjust status.  Luckily VJ let me know that was visa fraud and we did it the right way.  But lawyers seem so incompetent.  Rant over - lol

Where do they find these lawyers they put on this show?  They are so bad.  I think most aren't immigration lawyers but some back country all-purpose lawyers who do everything but aren't really good at anything.  The lawyer for "Mouth of the South" read the denial that they gave Michael at the embassy.  He says that they "will recommend denial" but it's an official denial yet.  I think it's pretty official when the IO tells you that you are DENIED!   And then he mentions K1 appeal, and states that 60% of appeals are approved.  I was under the impression that the K1 appeal isn't practical because they just let it expire.

BTW- that Tania is so irresponsible.  She went to Costa Rica for some study, but she seems to be in bars and dancing drunk more than she's studying.  If her guy had more self-respect, he'd be gone when she came back.  
 
Also, I forgot to add earlier.... how MOTS' lawyer not so subtly mentioned "what else Michael said at the interview".  And now the loud mouth redneck is going to Nigeria to find out what happened at the interview.  They are trying to blame him.  Maybe it's the fact that there's a 20+ year age gap, the fact that they fight and break up every other show,  that she doesn't trust him, that he wants kids and she's 80,  that he wants to met Donald Trump  , etc.

No matter what I think of her looks, I'd be on the first plane out of Ukraine.  Natalie is bat crazy!!!  She is freaking out about their non-existent kids.
 
Looks like Michael is not going to get to meet Prez Trump yet since he got denied.  Maybe they can marry there and re-apply and he'll see Trump in the 2nd term.  Mouth of the South ("Meemaw") doesn't understand why.  Really? Maybe the 25 year age difference.  The fact that you fight with him on TV every week.   Best part is Meemaw saying how she won't stand for this, she has the RIGHT to bring him here.  She pays taxes and meets the support minimums.  She says that she will "find the loophole".  I think she already has a loophole, in her brain.  I'm surprised she didn't blame him and yell at him for screwing the interview up.
 
Tania can't be reached in Costa Rica.  He's mowing lawns and she's dancing salsa and hitting the beach in a thong.  To be fair, the Caribbean side in CR has iffy cell phone reception.  But she can be in touch if she wanted to.  That area is very touristy and lots of weed , and lots of tourists hooking up.  Honestly, he would probably leave but he's so obsessed with the American dream it seems.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Since this is only he second k1, you have no restrictions. 
 
But sorry, I had to laugh when you wrote you have "marriage prospects" in couple different countries. It sounds like foreign wife shopping so much. 

No. She will have to return home. With the K-1 visa, she can only adjust status through the petitioner, meaning you. There is no other option. She must leave before her I-94 expires or she will be unlawfully present and begin accumulating overstay. Naturally she doesn't want to return, but that's the reality of the situation. 

First meeting and no photos... what other evidence do you have to show that you have met in person?  Boarding passes, passport stamps, documents that show you both in the same place at the same time?  If you have very little, or nothing, you might consider another visit and take photos this time, as Pakistan is a tough embassy.  More evidence of time spent together with a few photos would be a good idea for Pakistan based on others' experiences there.  Good luck!

Sounds like best option is for them to abandon their green cards, and get son to re-sponsor when they are ready to move. 
i have to point out, that for most people medical needs get more and more as they age. If they cannot afford medical treatment now in the US, then one wonders how they will cope in 10 or 20 years time.

The best and the most valid answer?  Truth

It's not about a ban, it's about how many people from that country decided to move to the US on a tourist Visa. The COs are trying to avoid that. Blame your Pakistan fellowmen, not the embassy.

Bingo.
They suspected mom , like so many others, would use a tourist visa then “suddenly” decide to stay and adjust status with kids filing for her. 214b.

Documents are very rarely reviewed. The CO cannot verify their authenticity on the spot, and they don't really demonstrate intent to return home. the DS-160 provides nearly all, if not all, information the CO needs to make a decision.
She was denied under INA 214(b) - immigrant intent. This is a decision made by the CO based on a totality of the circumstances. Sorry, but there's nothing else to do. She is free to reapply, although expect the same result unless her circumstances materially change.
 
I'm unsure how she knows who/how many people did or did not get a visa that day. This especially goes for marriage based visas since those are usually handled in a separate part of the consulate by the Immigrant Visa Unit.
 
Edit: Pakistan has a 48% refusal rate for tourist visas. That's a very high rate...it will require having very strong ties to overcome the mandatory presumption of immigrant intent.

"The University of Farmington was a fake university set up in 2015 in Michigan by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to expose student visa fraud in the United States. "

Thank you to everyone. I finally was able to get access to the site. I will have some questions for members who are familiar with consulates. I’m still learning how to work site. If its ok can I post what I need help with here? Is this the right area? 

I just love you, TBone. You always have such wise words and I've never once seen you pass judgement on anyone. You're such a great person who contributes so much to the VJ community!

Even if he doesn't receive a ban, at least Sarah will not end up used in a loveless marriage. That is the main point here. I admire her strength at this difficult time. Sending hugs!!!!!

VJ Fam,
 
I never imagined when I made the original post what a profound affect this particular situation would have on me as well as others here on the site. This has been so emotional. So mad!! Not only because Sarah is a friend, but because it could have been me. I know the Visa Journey site is intended to help petitioners and beneficiaries with topics pertaining to various Visas, but I think its important to remember that we, the VJ community, are also human beings. 
 
Each and every single one of us on this site, past or present, man or woman, regardless of the type of Visa relates to you, has felt some sort of emotion at some point in time during your visa process. Whether its petitioning for your fiance's or spouses, parents, or children, a job, finally getting naturalized, etc., regardless, there was a deep emotion attached to it.  As emotional as this process is, I cant imagine it all coming to a crash and feeling in some ways, victimized.
 
Here is the update...Im calling it The showdown!!! I waited all day for this!!! And yes in case any of you are wondering,  yes I was rubbing my palms together when the phone was ringing!!! Sarah waited until an hour ago to call her exfiance. I sat right next to her and gave her my 100% support. Being that its Friday morning in Jordan and her exfiance is off, it was the right time. She decided to call him direct and not call video chat only because she looked a bit sad and emotional and didnt want him to see that. She wanted him on speaker so I can hear as well. He answered and sounded very happy and also concerned because she told him she has been sick so he wanted to know how she was feeling and he was very worried. She was honest and said she felt like ####### and didnt feel good at all. He asked why and what exactly she was sick with and kept saying he was worried maybe she had a flu. She told him she was sick from him. He didnt understand what she meant I guess and told her to go see a doctor or go to the ER because again, hes so worried!  She said she needs to talk to him about something important and he told her and he was making coffee and she said hurry up and pour your cup and get to a quiet place I need you to be able to hear me clear. Then finally told him your girlfriend called me on facebook. He said who (very casually)? she told him she called, never saying it could be accidental. She said she called her but she didnt answer. That she saw her facebook page and wanted him to explain what she saw, she listed all of it. He was on the verge of denying it when she said more firmly what she knows alot. She asked him to be honest, not to lie, lying would make it worse and to think carefully before answering. Then I heard him talk nervously and say it was a girl he knew but was not interested in. Sarah told him one last chance to tell the truth otherwise she hangs up. She gave him few more facts and asked him to say true or false. Surprisingly he did not deny most of it. I can hear him light up a cigarette and take long drags (guess I would too) and eventually said yes its true he did have a relationship with her but it was many years ago. He was sorry he never mentioned it. Things ended with her years ago and then met Sarah. As far as those same romantic posts, he said she may have had them from me when I sent them years ago. She must have saved them. Sarah asked why would he send her the same exact posts he once sent to a previous woman?  He apologized. He was pretty quiet didnt know what to say I guess at that point and listening to see if she had more. She continued. He got aggatated and said someone was jealous of them and giving them the evil eye (ahhhh a classic!!). There are some other things that she knows that was not shared here on VJ that confirmed their ongoing relationship and plans. She chose not to share all of it with him and said she was aware of his plan. He denied having such plans but adjusted his previous explanation and said his parents did put pressure on him to marry her but infact he had lost interest when he met Sarah (his story kept getting worse!). He did say something that I agree with...the only thing I agreed on. That in fact the call made to Sarah was not an accident. It was done deliberately to trigger her to "find her out", maybe throw a wrench in their plans. He kept saying he was sorry he never talked about her but that she was ex. Kept referring to her as that, his ex. Sarah didnt want to continue talking because he continually changed his story and timelines. She mentioned she knew more. She told him she didnt want to hear from him again. She wants to forget about him completely. He is no longer engaged to her. He is no longer coming to USA he is no longer a part of her life. He asked  if he can have her talk to his mom. She refused. He asked again and seemed he was walking around to locate her in the home. Sarah said I will not talk to anyone. You will talk to her and tell her why you no longer engaged. She finished the call by telling him the final details that confirmed his fraud and he was quiet or taken back then wanted to deny it some more. Sarah said we are done and that he wouldnt hear from her again. She asked him to apologize. He did immediately and started to sound like he was panicked. He said to hang on a bit longer, and to let his mom have a talk with her.  She said she was done talking and that he needs to find God, etc. Before he can call back she blocked his number and everything else. She is doing good. She was strong. No tears. She was angry a bit after but said she agreed with me that God loved her and had her back on this. She did great. (I was kind of wishing she cussed him out a little...but thats just my fighter pilot kicking in!) I hope she will STAY strong. Next week when  she gets updated from the Embassy I will update you all here so we all know the process in the cancellation, what it entails, etc.  

Exactly the way I'd do it, too. I'd find it very hard to not be in tears because of how angry I'd be, and the last thing I'd want to do is give him the benefit of seeing/hearing how much he'd hurt me.   I'd just totally ghost.
 
Edit:  I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.  But I'm going to be that person.   OP please, please suggest your friend do everything possible to protect her physical safety in the future.   If her ex feels jilted, embarrassed, frustrated or angry about the outcome of all this (despite it being 100% his doing) then there is the possibility of him retaliating with violence or asking someone else to do so on his behalf. This has nothing to do with culture or religion, simply the fact that anyone who is callous and calculating enough to do something like this is also callous and calculating enough to try to harm the person who "ruined" their plans.

So here is an update for everyone on Sarah. First of all thank you all for your support.  Im having her stay through the entire weekend for moral support. So far...
 
- Sarah is still unable to create her own VJ profile even from an alternate yahoo email. Same email verification issues. Maybe in the next few days she will get the verification. 
- When she does eventually get on VJ, she will create a timeline anyways and input everything on her journey as she understands this will help all of us with tracking timelines. 
-  Then she will update her experience and the outcome of Embassy ruling on her cancelling the Visa and hopefully on time.
-  She has sent an URGENT CANCEL VISA email to the Embassy and Cc'd an alternate email we found. She gathered and attached as much evidence she had which wasn't much,  Flash screens of the FACEBOOK page of the girlfriend, text messages from a friend in Jordan with information pertaining to him in English and thats basically it. Not much more than that along with and her testimony. 
- She will call the Embassy late tonight PST which will be morning Jordan time we will work to get someone on the phone and see what else is required.
- She has a lawyer standing by just in case she needs one who will create a legal letter and send it express to the embassy.
 
On a personal note:
 
- She received a text from her now ex (although he doesnt know it yet) fiance that he sold his car so he can have enough cash to come with. (he's gonna wish he waited) and that he officially put in his 2 weeks notice with his job (he'll be jobless too). Basically it was a cheerful message from him and wished her to feel better soon. She is not replying to his messages. No communication until she have confirmed the Visa is cancelled. 
- And yes to those who asked, I will be right there when she makes that call to him. She needs all the support she can get.
 
 

I'm sure this girl is one of his cousins. Although Jordan is a pretty progressive country and many families are trying to get away from marrying within the family, it's still not uncommon for people to marry first and second cousins, especially in the villages. Not just Muslims, but Christians, also.  When I met my husband I was not aware that this is common in Middle Eastern culture. Even though it's very shocking for people in the West and frowned upon, it's normal there. Way back when, people married within the family to protect their wealth. The instances are much lower in Jordan than other countries, but it happens. A few people in my husband's extended family married cousins and I'm glad he warned me ahead of time because I would have been floored if I found out on my own. It's still such a strange concept to me because I cannot even imagine marrying a blood relative.

Keep us updated and tell her not to tell a soul in Jordan that she knows. I'm not convinced his family knows, but don't take a chance in telling them or anyone else until his visa has been cancelled and she has proof from the consulate. 

Hmm Im sure the other girl will tell him she spoke to your friend right? I hope your friend is able to end things with him in a way that will give her closure. She can also contact CBP and let them know his visa is being revoked. A situation came up like this before. According to policy even once the visa is issued (printed in passport) it CAN be revoked up until the POE entry. Once its used at POE the petitioner (sponsor) can not withdraw. So again, anytime up until the actual POE the sponsor can pull their support and the visa will be inactive. 
 
( @Captain Ewok many people here reporting sign up issues- can you help?) 

I know she believes his family doesn't know, i wouldn't trust them either. Usually the family goes along with the "plan" so to speak. If i were her, i wouldn't contact them at all, they may tip him off before she can confront him.

I was going to say both of the points above.  Put his "A" number in the Subject line of the e-mail, if he has one.  And definitely apprise CBP if the visa has been issued.