Foreign fiancee pregnant by someone else

[Darlyn25 2]

Just now, payxibka said:

On what basis?  

Still new to this, so like don't quote me. I am just speaking from personal experience of knowing people who went through this personally. They got approved and when trying to enter did not get allowed because of " as i was told" risk of visa fraud. 

 

[payxibka 10,044]

2 minutes ago, Darlyn25 said:

Still new to this, so like don't quote me. I am just speaking from personal experience of knowing people who went through this personally. They got approved and when trying to enter did not get allowed because of " as i was told" risk of visa fraud. 

 

K1?

[Georgia16 2,858]

You say you don’t want to be responsible for someone else child BUT if she comes here with a newborn you will 99% be the only father that child will know in his/her life. That is a huge responsibility and you have to figure out if you are okay with that because no matter what nothing of all this is the child’s fault. So if you are not ready to step up a 100% and be there for this child then you really shouldn’t go forward with this. 

[Darlyn25 2]

1 minute ago, payxibka said:

K1?

Yes, They were doing a K1, it might have been more to the story. Because they did have friends and family here.  But they were not able to convince the POE. I was just saying that it is a possibility the POE could reject them. 

Please correct me if I am wrong. 

If the CO approves it, does that mean the POE does not have rights to Reject?

[payxibka 10,044]

3 minutes ago, Darlyn25 said:

Yes, They were doing a K1, it might have been more to the story. Because they did have friends and family here.  But they were not able to convince the POE. I was just saying that it is a possibility the POE could reject them. 

Please correct me if I am wrong. 

If the CO approves it, does that mean the POE does not have rights to Reject?

Of course they can,  however,  it is rare.  In 15 years on this site, I think i have read about one turn around. 

[Timona 3,970]

1 hour ago, GregAntillian said:

From the limited information that I have been able to gather, she originally was going to terminate (and likely never tell me), however she has a few issues with her reproductive side of things, and her doctor essentially told her "It's a miracle you were even able to get pregnant, it's not likely to happen again". After hearing that she chose not to terminate and keep it from me for quite a long while, obviously.

 

I still don't know all the details, but suffice to say things aren't exactly looking promising.

 

And you believe the bolded? It's more like she found out late that she's pregnant but couldn't terminate at that point. So the best thing was to cook up a story before you came to Russia that "she should be grateful about the pregnancy." Trust me, you and her will get pregnant again and it'll be termed "a miracle."

 

I bet you the initial plan was to hide it from you, not mention the kid anywhere, migrate to US then either:

 

1. divorce and go back to get the kid or on 25th Dec be like

2. "Hurray. I have a kid, you know. His name is Dimitri. That's your 2021 X-mass present, babe. "

 

However, they only came clean because somehow they may have found out those plans lead to a dead end if the child isn't mentioned NOW on the K-1 process. We've seen people who hid their kids and wives, married US citizens, then divorced to go bring the aforementioned. However, USCIS hits them with reality and they come on VJ asking how to remedy the situation.

 

I guarantee you that if the 2 plans mentioned above would work, you would have gone to Russia to find a well maintained 'gym' body. She would have silently given birth, given the kid to family or the guy for keeps and hit the gym ASAP before your arrival. You would have been so happy she maintained herself for you while you were away, not knowing the dirt behind the curtains.

 

First of all, how do you go around not using condom? This was not accidental. They knew what they were doing. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Timona

[Darlyn25 2]

3 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Of course they can,  however,  it is rare.  In 15 years on this site, I think i have read about one turn around. 

Thank you for providing that insight. Do you remember what that rejection was for? How could you Provide enough information in this case example to show that is it not visa fraud? 

[Timona 3,970]

Not insinuating anything, but how old are our two parties here? Or what's the age gap? @GregAntillian

 

 

[GregAntillian 2]

9 minutes ago, Timona said:

Not insinuating anything, but how old are our two parties here? Or what's the age gap? @GregAntillian

 

 

31m/32f

[Timona 3,970]

1 minute ago, GregAntillian said:

31m/32f

 

You are young. At 32, she's expected to know better. Kindly, dodge this future- brewing drama. Save a little money and take a vacation. You'll surely meet someone. Trust me, the money you'll use to go on the vacay and meet a better lady will be a drop in the ocean compared to when you are forced to split 50/50 in 3 years. @GregAntillian

[Orangesapples 1,954]

2 hours ago, Darlyn25 said:

If you have one or more children not listed on the visa petition, or a current pregnancy, or a prior undisclosed marriage even if it is now terminated, or currently have a contagious disease of public health significance, be 

I've never heard of a requirement to disclose a pregnancy. 

[geowrian 22,336]

I think everybody else covered the relationship side of things pretty clearly. Nobody here knows your circumstances, but this is flashing red alarms that now is not a good time to add in the stress of immigration and such. I'd be running for the hills, but there is no harm in at least delaying things.

 

58 minutes ago, Darlyn25 said:

If the CO approves it, does that mean the POE does not have rights to Reject?

Only a USC (or an American Indian born in Canada with least 50% American Indian blood) is guaranteed entry.

But a denied entry with a K-1 is quite rare and suggests there were reasons for the CBPO to believe the visa has since become invalid for it's intended purpose or was issued incorrectly based upon the new information that the CO didn't have. They generally don't get into the position of overruling a CO who spent much more time with that one case than a CBPO with limited information and less time.

 

49 minutes ago, Darlyn25 said:

Thank you for providing that insight. Do you remember what that rejection was for? How could you Provide enough information in this case example to show that is it not visa fraud? 

I've seen a rejection because the CBPO asked if they intend to to marry the petitioner, and they responded with something along the lines of "maybe I will, maybe I won't". The officer felt they did not qualify for a K-1 visa anymore as the purpose of the visa is to enter and marry.

 

I've seen a few handfuls of rejections because the individuals married abroad prior to entry, and found evidence of this.

Some of these were marriages (legal or "only" ceremonial) to the petitioner.

There is at least one case where there was a marriage to an SO they had abroad. Usually this one tends to gets caught at AOS or ROC or something (or when they eventually divorce and try to bring over their original SO), but I guess sometimes people get overconfident and assume they got away with it already.

 

5 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

I've never heard of a requirement to disclose a pregnancy. 

Other than the medical, it wouldn't be required. For the medical, I'm pretty sure it's asked (the x-ray and/or vaccinations alone are reasons why they need to know).

Edited July 23, 2020 by geowrian

[igoyougoduke 1,614]

1 hour ago, GregAntillian said:

I had intentionally left things rather vague, but for the sake of information, the country in question is Russia.

 

I had intended to attend the interview, just would need to know when it was going to be, obviously.

Plenty of video calls and pictures... But it explains why they were only face height. 😂

 you got to be kidding. So many gorgeous woman in Russia and you really arent thinking it through. This forum is not a advise forum for your life. Get a shrink  to resolve the issue. Everyone here suggests against but its your life.  There is a saying " you can put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig"

[Ncornejo7 236]

Once a cheater always a cheater. 

[SalishSea 16,907]

7 hours ago, GregAntillian said:

CRBA?

CRBA?  The baby won't be eligible for that.