Would Merit Based Immigration Affect Spouses?

[frodolives 7]

I just read a post on here from another user about Trump’s latest immigration changes. Does anyone know if spouses would be affected by this? It’s appalling to me that people could be kept from their family members solely because they don’t meet certain criteria. 

[payxibka 10,044]

43 minutes ago, frodolives said:

I just read a post on here from another user about Trump’s latest immigration changes. Does anyone know if spouses would be affected by this? It’s appalling to me that people could be kept from their family members solely because they don’t meet certain criteria. 

No reason to be appalled.  Typically there has been no discussion regarding any changes to visas for spouses and children.

[frodolives 7]

5 minutes ago, payxibka said:

No reason to be appalled.  Typically there has been no discussion regarding any changes to visas for spouses and children.

Thank you for the response. That is definitely reassuring!

[Crazy Cat 39,388]

46 minutes ago, frodolives said:

I just read a post on here from another user about Trump’s latest immigration changes. Does anyone know if spouses would be affected by this? It’s appalling to me that people could be kept from their family members solely because they don’t meet certain criteria. 

I would hold the anxiety until an actual Executive Order is issued.  Typically, they include exemptions.  There are few news articles floating around, but I see no specifics other than it will include DACA.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/president-trump-working-on-executive-order-to-establish-merit-based-immigration-system-white-house/articleshow/76904086.cms

 

BTW:  Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have merit based immigration systems.......

[igoyougoduke 1,609]

1 minute ago, Lucky Cat said:

I would hold the anxiety until an actual Executive Order is issued.  Typically, they include exemptions.  There are few news articles floating around, but I see no specifics other than it will include DACA.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/president-trump-working-on-executive-order-to-establish-merit-based-immigration-system-white-house/articleshow/76904086.cms

 

BTW:  Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have merit based immigration systems.......

Everyone freaking out about an EO that changes from morning to evening and from PBS to CNN to Fox news. If you even believe that 10 percent what he says is true than you need to chill 

[Crazy Cat 39,388]

6 minutes ago, James120383 said:

Everyone freaking out about an EO that changes from morning to evening and from PBS to CNN to Fox news. If you even believe that 10 percent what he says is true than you need to chill 

Until it is written, we won't know anything other than rumors.

[Crazy Cat 39,388]

 

[pushbrk 12,154]

No change Trump has suggested in the past, changed anything about spouse or stepchildren immigration except a perceived tightening of financial sponsorship criteria.  I can't imagine a failure to carve out immediate families of US Citizens.

[frodolives 7]

55 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

No change Trump has suggested in the past, changed anything about spouse or stepchildren immigration except a perceived tightening of financial sponsorship criteria.  I can't imagine a failure to carve out immediate families of US Citizens.

Do you have any idea about the potential change to financial sponsorship criteria? I don’t have an extensive work history and limited income. I’ll be able to meet the 125% of the poverty level, but not much more. And that concerns me. I read that if you’re living with a parent, you’re allowed to include their income if they permit you to do so. Will options like that still be allowed?

[pushbrk 12,154]

1 minute ago, frodolives said:

Do you have any idea about the potential change to financial sponsorship criteria? I don’t have an extensive work history and limited income. I’ll be able to meet the 125% of the poverty level, but not much more. And that concerns me. I read that if you’re living with a parent, you’re allowed to include their income if they permit you to do so. Will options like that still be allowed?

No options have been taken off the table.  Information about those options can be found in the I-864 instructions.  Become an A-Student of those instructions.

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

4 hours ago, Lucky Cat said:

 

BTW:  Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have merit based immigration systems.......

Yup we got merit based and to be honest i personally think it works well.. especially for non-family based immigration by ensuring people hold the qualifications needed to fill gap shortages rather than overload the country with one type of worker that pushes wages down (noting we work off bargaining agreements, not so much union or minimum wages.. )

 

family imigration still works well with merit based, by ensuring people can speak English and hold at least a high school certificate, and that spouse is employed and can care for them.. Aus has never let unemployed or students act as sponsors, which I think is fair since it is tax payer money afterall. 

 

I honestly dont think merit based systems are anything to be scared of provided your a honest hard working person, with honest intentions.

Edited July 12, 2020 by Duke & Marie

[JFH 12,189]

I can see sibling immigration being abolished before K-1s are scrapped. 
 

I did read an interesting article, which I can’t find now, that presented a good case for scrapping the fiancé visa process and having a spousal visa process only. Mainly to cut the workload for USCIS with AOS applications and to cut claims of false or frivolous VAWA claims as the immigrants will automatically be permanent residents so there will be no need to find “creative” ways to stay if the relationship falls apart before the green card is approved or if the sponsor withdraws the I-864.

[Ryan H 3,791]

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[TampaRishon 38]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/trumps-merit-based-immigration-proposal-makes-sense/589846/

I was reading articles on Trump's past ideas for "merit based" immigration. This one was from May 2019 and they said (on the last line) that Trump has always left immediate family based stuff alone. So if he's sticking to what he's always done then He is just reforming work related visas and other visas and is leaving the spousal stuff alone. Hopefully this is the case, for sure we will have to wait and see, but it gives us a good idea of what his main concern is. He also has exempted spouses and children of USC in every EO. So I don't think we're his main target. I could be wrong, but I'm going to go by what he's done in the past. . .

Also, If this takes affect does anyone know if those who've already applied would be excluded from the new rules? I know we don't know, but just was curious about people's thoughts. Just a hypothetical question. :) 

[igoyougoduke 1,609]

13 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

Yup we got merit based and to be honest i personally think it works well.. especially for non-family based immigration by ensuring people hold the qualifications needed to fill gap shortages rather than overload the country with one type of worker that pushes wages down (noting we work off bargaining agreements, not so much union or minimum wages.. )

 

family imigration still works well with merit based, by ensuring people can speak English and hold at least a high school certificate, and that spouse is employed and can care for them.. Aus has never let unemployed or students act as sponsors, which I think is fair since it is tax payer money afterall. 

 

I honestly dont think merit based systems are anything to be scared of provided your a honest hard working person, with honest intentions.

considering US is the world's super power and has had family immigration for 100+ years, there is nothing to say to need to shift to merit basis. it has worked wonderful for this country. Infact it has worked the best in the world. Sure Aussi might go with merit but one solution does not make it any better than the US