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I second the CR-1 (spousal) visa process instead. The added time together to marry will help, and there would be no question about intent to marry if married.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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agree with all who say marry and CR1  

a new K1 will more than likely be denied

 

after all if her intent was not to marry in the US ,  getting married there would prove that wrong

MARRY HER

 

and in the long run the CR1 is cheaper as the AOS after marriage in US is $1225

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Cambodia
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11 hours ago, JFH said:

Don’t try too hard with the pictures. Did they look at any pictures during the interview? Pictures and chat logs are not really enough to show a bona fide relationship. I’m more interested to hear how the interview went, which questions were asked and how she answered. I think that’s what you should be focusing on, not how many pictures you have and how many different ways 

Sorry for the mess, but this is how she sent me that the interview went. 

 

The consular greet in Khmer (He said hello and praise his hands in Cambodian way) and I responded in the same way. Consular: who do you come with? Me: I come by myself.
Consular: how do you know your petitioner?
Me: we were introduced by my auntie. They are friend and coworker too.
Consular: (Raised his hand up) would you raise your hand up and only tell the truth? Me: (raised my hand up and responded with Yes, then i had my four fingers scan again) Consular: How old are you: Me: I am 27
Consular: How old is your fiancé? Me: 37 Consular: 37? Me: Yes. Consular: What is his address? (I could not understand what he was saying then I said “sorry”. Then he repeated his question, but I could not understand what he was saying, then I said sorry again and then he asked “where dose your fiancé live?”
Me: house number ... (the consular finishes my answer with “Southeast) Me: Yes. Consular: You are an architect in Peng Huoth Group? Me: Yes

 

Consular: Your address is ... Me: Yes.
Consular: you have your family in The United States? Me: Yes, my mom and my sister. Consular: Is your sister in Ankeney? Me: No, she’s in Demoines. Consular: is your mom in Demiones: Me: She’s not in Demiones. She’s in Texas now. Consular: What does she do there?
Me: she’s there helps a family look after their baby. Consular: is your aunt in Demoines: Me: she’s in Ankeney.


The consular looked at pile of proof and he picked and counted receipt from western union and said “he sent you money 5 times” then he look again and said “6 times” Me: yes.
Then he picked a few page of Facebook chat randomly and read for just short moment. Then he opened picture album and look for seconds. Consular: were your parents in the engagement? Me: Yes, my mom and my sister came to my egagment. Consular: did his parents come to the engagement? Me: No.
Consular: why your fiancé came only once?
(I paused in that question, because I needed to think how to respond in English and tried to think for answer too). The consular said “it’s better to have a translator” then he called for a translator.
From here the interview started with the translator. It was overweening; it was like I didn’t have much time and the consular did not look to me much.
Me: Because he came to the engagement to take me there (The United State).

 

Consular: What is his parents’ name?
Me: His mom is .... His dad is .... . Consular: what do they do?
Me: His mom is an author. His dad is a boat builder. Consoler: Dose your fiancé has chidrend? Me: No.
Consular: Dose he has brother or sister?   Me: He has a sister. Consular: what is her name? Me: .... Consular: where dos she live? Me:....
Consular: What does she do? Me: HR.
Consular: How old are you? Me: 27
Consular: How old is your fiancé? Me:37
One question was sounded like he was making summery from my answer and sounded like “you introduce him to your sister?” in the end. I responded “yes”. And then the consoler said “once you said your aunt introduced you and once you said that your sister introduce you.” After that I understood what his question was and I did explain that I misunderstood him. I though he meant that “I told my sister about him after we were introduce from my aunt.” The translator made her translation and the guy responded “No”.
About the translator, in this question I didn’t wait for her translation sometimes, because I was not aware that I misunderstood his question. I was not familiar with waiting for translation. Mostly I answer directly after his question.
In the end of the interview, the guy gave me a denial later and said sorry he could not approve

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Cambodia
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10 hours ago, FaithProfessoR said:

What are your chances for a second interview?  I am no expert but I have read in my fiancee country sub-forums a case that they were denied because the CO did not believed that the relationship was real. And they requested a second interview with the CO but this time with the petitioner the request was accepted plus they manage to get approved.

 

here is the link to her timeline see the notes in the comment section. Idk if you are still in time for that because it seems that she requested that really quick. And the other fact is a different country. 

 

But I agree what other has said if the K1 was denied the best comeback is the CR1 with more evidence.

 

Best of luck✌🏻

 

https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/profile.php?id=287975

We've asked the embassy for a second interview,  they didn't offer.  I'm saying the next interview after refilling a new K1. 

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Question answered up thread. Good Luck... 

Edited by boris64

Not a newbie but lost my old info years ago) I have been through this process before --all the way through naturalization-- This site has always been a great help to me. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Short version is that Consulate considered this a set up to get the left behind  into the US by her family.

 

I doubt a quick visit will change their mind on that.

Bingo. It appears the CO believes the relationship is an arrangement to bypass the longer waits of other family members petitioning the beneficiary, not anything about intent to marry.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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You sent money 6 times but visited once? Would have been better to visit 6 times and send money once.

 

Did you send money before you visited?

 

I agree with the others that the CO believes this is just a way to by-pass the very long waits for sibling or adult child immigration. He will have seen that so many times before that it's not at all a far-fetched idea. Marrying and filing a CR-1 might be better. Best of all would be you immigrating to Cambodia, at least for a year or so. After all, if you just want to be together then location is irrelevant?

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Indonesia
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If you go the K-1 route again, you'll be in your 40s by the time she gets here since the K-1 will get rejected again, and you'l have to get married, and apply for the CR-1. 

Removing Conditions Timeline

Aug. 10, '17: Mailed in I-751

Aug. 21, '17: NOA1

October 23, '18: NOA2- approval

October 30, 18: 10-year GC received

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Cambodia
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1 hour ago, JFH said:

You sent money 6 times but visited once? Would have been better to visit 6 times and send money once.

 

Did you send money before you visited?

 

I agree with the others that the CO believes this is just a way to by-pass the very long waits for sibling or adult child immigration. He will have seen that so many times before that it's not at all a far-fetched idea. Marrying and filing a CR-1 might be better. Best of all would be you immigrating to Cambodia, at least for a year or so. After all, if you just want to be together then location is irrelevant?

I sent 6 times before visiting. She has a good job there, so she always told me just save the money for our wedding and honeymoon. And I've heard so many conflicting things with K1 and money. Some say send, some say only send money if you're already married. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, geowrian said:

Bingo. It appears the CO believes the relationship is an arrangement to bypass the longer waits of other family members petitioning the beneficiary, not anything about intent to marry.

If I could get the time off of work, I'd go every few months for a week  or two if I could. I work at a Casino, where I only get so much vacation per year. So I'm just trying to do the best I can with what's available. 

 

It's not a problem of not wanting to go. Or us not wanting to see each other. 

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Why send 💰, she has family in the US to support her.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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4 hours ago, Dataunavailable said:

We've asked the embassy for a second interview,  they didn't offer.  I'm saying the next interview after refilling a new K1. 

A second interview would be highly unlikely, imo.  I agree, in your case, a trip back for marriage would be better than a quick trip back with another K-1 soon after.....how does she feel about marrying in her country?

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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