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Hello, all. My K-1 fiancé and I are getting married in a couple of weeks and had a question for you all: 

 

I wanted to ask if any of you decided against using an immigration attorney when filing Form I-485. We didn't use an attorney for the K-1 process and think we'll be all right for this as well, but I wanted to see if any of you would be willing to share your experiences (especially given that the AOS process can be pretty complex).  

 

Thanks so much! 

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1 minute ago, KenziePNW said:

Hello, all. My K-1 fiancé I are getting married in a couple of weeks and had a question for you all: 

 

I wanted to ask if any of you decided against using an immigration attorney when filing Form I-485. We didn't use an attorney for the K-1 process and think we'll be all right for this as well, but I wanted to see if any of you would be willing to share your experiences (especially given that the AOS process can be pretty complex).  

 

Thanks so much! 

I found it easier. I compiled all of the documents within a week this time whereas last time it took me a month. (Self filer with complicated criminal history/divorces when filing for K1). 

Join your month's AOS filing group. Everyone is in the same boat. 

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Hi we didn't use an attorney. We adjusted from a tourist visa overstay and received the green card last month. 


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2011-10-31 US Entry with CR1
2013-09-02 ROC filed
2013-09-12 NOA
2014-03-05 Biometrics
2014-03-24 Approved
2014-05-05 Green card received
2016-08-02 N400 filed
2016-08-12 NOA
2016-09-02 Biometrics
2017-05-04 Interview
2017-07-05 Oath Ceremony

 


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It's not complex and there is a forum full of people sharing experiances. Just browse it, dont be lazy. 


K1

29.11.2013 - NoA1

06.02.2014 - NoA2

01.04.2014 - Interview. 

AoS

03.2015 - AoS started.

09.2015 - Green Card received.  

RoC

24.07.2017 - NoA1.

01.08.2018 - RoC approved. 

 

 

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If you’ve found this site, you do not need an attorney (provided your case is relatively straight forward). 

 

Read the instructions from USCIS line by line as you complete it, and if you get stuck, pop on here.  You will be just fine, and save a few thousand dollars :) 

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It’s just reading and following instructions. If you did the i129f/ k1 by yourself I don’t see why would you need an attorney going forward.


07/09/2018: ROC packet sent with USPS 2-day priority shipping

07/11/2018: ROC packet delivered to the Vermont Service Center

07/16/2018: NOA1 received by mail with 18 months extension (notice date 7/12 and check cashed)

08/07/2018: Biometrics appointment letter received by mail (notice date 7/27)

08/13/2018: Biometrics appointment at east Hartford, ct

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We have done the entire process by ourselves, using VisaJourney and the USCIS website only.  No RFEs along the way, and we are currently waiting for my husband's AOS interview to be scheduled.

 

 

I really think in most cases there is no need for an attorney.  It is a money suck, and they often make errors.

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Honestly, the I-485 is a much simpler process than the K-1 visa IMO.

There's more direct forms needed to complete and submit, but you basically just fill them out, provide the necessary documentation, and wait for an interview.

 

Anyway, read through the guide (https://www.visajourney.com/content/k1k3aos) and instructions for each form. Ask questions. If you still don't understand or have particular concerns, then professional assistance may be useful.


Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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If you didn't use an attorney for the K1, you really don't need one for AOS.

 

My husband came on a K1 in June, we got married in August, submitted his AOS/AP/EAD in August and he has his AOS Interview in a couple of weeks.  All done without a lawyer.  

 

Save your money. 

 

 

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K1 Timeline

5/17/2017: I-129F sent to USCIS Lewisville, Texas via FedEx Ground Shipping

5/22/2017: Received by USCIS

5/26/2017: Check was cashed; Received text (but no email) from USCIS; case being transferred to CSC
11/17/2017: NOA2 Hard Copy Received 
01/03/2018: NVC Received I-129F 
01/03/2018: Case Number Received

01/23/2018: Embassy Received
01/30/2018: Received NVC letter hard copy from NVC
02/09/2018: Medical
03/19/2018: Interview 
03/19/2018: APPROVED!
03/21/2018: Visa in Hand

06/16/2018: POE (San Francisco) 

08/04/2018:  MARRIED!

 

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AOS Timeline

08/29/2018: AOS/EAD/AP sent to USCIS Chicago Lockbox via FedEx

08/31/2018: Received by USCIS 

09/04/2018: Received 3 texts from USCIS with 3 case numbers 

09/05/2018: Check was cashed

09/12/2018: Received our NOA1 hard copy via mail

09/24/2018: Biometrics Appointment

10/11/2018: Case Status updated to Ready to Schedule Interview

12/27/2018: AOS Interview Scheduled by USCIS

xx/xx/xxxx: EAD/AP combo card approved

xx/xx/xxxx: EAD/AP combo received

02/13/2019: Interview

02/20/2019: GREEN CARD ISSUED!!!

xx/xx/xxxx: GREEN CARD IN HAND!!!

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You survived the K-1 process by yourself; I have no doubt you will ace the AOS process without an attorney. Save your money and use it for vacation when it's all said and done.

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We have been through the entire process up to naturalization and did not use an attorney.  I agree with @geowrian I found the K1 the most complex filing, but that may have been that it was my first foray into the process.  The AOS is fairly straightforward and the forms are not that daunting, and there are a lot of folks here willing to help answer any questions.  Just my two cents.

 

Good Luck!


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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An attorney is only for those with complex, difficult cases that involve things like criminal records or appeals, things like that.  For a straightforward case they are a waste of money and often make mistakes or delay the process.  Do it yourself.  Even with an attorney or "visa service," you will have to fill out the forms and send them all the documents anyway.

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The AOS process is like a walk in the park in comparison to the i-129f/K-1 process. I don't see why anyone with a normal, straight-forward case would hire a lawyer for any part of the immigration process (from visa to greencards to citizenship).


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC: 04-19-2019 earliest filing date

 

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2 minutes ago, Scandi said:

The AOS process is like a walk in the park in comparison to the i-129f/K-1 process. I don't see why anyone with a normal, straight-forward case would hire a lawyer for any part of the immigration process (from visa to greencards to citizenship).

Exactly.  If there’s nothing complicated, just do it yourself.  

 

I’m a paralegal, and when I worked in a firm that handled immigration, I can tell you the easy cases were done by interns.  Paralegals would handle the slightly more complex ones, and the attorneys just oversee everything (just to make sure there is no glaring error).  They only really get involved if something hugely complex is involved.  Most of their time is spent shmoozing with large corporations who regularly need immigration services.  Simple stuff is a cash grab for them.  

 

This site is more helpful because you get real life answers from everyone who has gone through this journey. 

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