Criminal history

[Nicholasstarr 3]

Me and my wife are getting ready to start our petition to USCIS. I've had multiple phone call consultations with lawyers that say to file for a spouse visa that I need to include all criminal history police reports court dockets prison records etc etc etc. I do have a criminal history nothing that falls under the Adam Walsh act. I did have a domestic violence charge that I plead not guilty to hired a lawyer and the prosecution dismissed the charges and did not pursue them I was never convicted in a court of law. Outside of that jest DUIs and miscellaneous misdemeanors resulting in fines. I'm under the assumption from doing my own personal study that these lawyers are confused and are trying to file my case the way you would a k3 spouse visa which includes the form I 129f in combination with form i-130. But I read that the k3 spouse visa is no longer available or is very rarely approved. Leaving only the i-130 to be the only form the US petitioner fills out to petition his immediate relative, wife, brother, sister, daughter or son. So my ultimate number one question is do I need to go through the hassle I'm trying to drum up ancient criminal history records to successfully complete a form i-130. We are filing cr1 NOT k1, k3. 

[cantofla 44]

10 minutes ago, Nicholasstarr said:

Me and my wife are getting ready to start our petition to USCIS. I've had multiple phone call consultations with lawyers that say to file for a spouse visa that I need to include all criminal history police reports court dockets prison records etc etc etc. I do have a criminal history nothing that falls under the Adam Walsh act. I did have a domestic violence charge that I plead not guilty to hired a lawyer and the prosecution dismissed the charges and did not pursue them I was never convicted in a court of law. Outside of that jest DUIs and miscellaneous misdemeanors resulting in fines. I'm under the assumption from doing my own personal study that these lawyers are confused and are trying to file my case the way you would a k3 spouse visa which includes the form I 129f in combination with form i-130. But I read that the k3 spouse visa is no longer available or is very rarely approved. Leaving only the i-130 to be the only form the US petitioner fills out to petition his immediate relative, wife, brother, sister, daughter or son. So my ultimate number one question is do I need to go through the hassle I'm trying to drum up ancient criminal history records to successfully complete a form i-130. We are filing cr1 NOT k1, k3. 

You need to disclose ALL criminal history.

 

USCIS cannot be more specific and explicit in stating that.... If you fail to disclose it and it comes up in the background check, which they run, your petition will be denied .

[thatguyuknow 147]

Why don't you complete your profile?

[PaulTheSheik 20]

33 minutes ago, Nicholasstarr said:

 But I read that the k3 spouse visa is no longer available or is very rarely approved. Leaving only the i-130 to be the only form the US petitioner fills out to petition his immediate relative, wife, brother, sister, daughter or son. So my ultimate number one question is do I need to go through the hassle I'm trying to drum up ancient criminal history records to successfully complete a form i-130. We are filing cr1 NOT k1, k3. 

You are correct. K3 is usually a waste of time, rarely approved.

 

https://citizenpath.com/k3-visa-process/

 

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In fiscal year 2016, the U.S. Department of State issued only 102 K3 visas as compared to 133,465 immigrant (IR1/CR1) visas for the spouses of U.S. citizens.

 

That said you should provide more information about you to get the best advice. 

Edited January 1, 2019 by PaulTheSheik

[Just Paul 4,591]

I had a friend in a similar circumstance to yours.   Domestic Violence / AWA.  Charged and pled down from a felony.  He was able to get an I-130 for a CR-1 approved without RFE.  Like others said be very truthful on the filing.  Ultimately USCIS/ DOS will want either certified copies of the disposition (sentencing) or a certified copy of no records found.   

 

For a K1 you have to get a waiver.   No waiver for a CR1.

 

I would order a copy of your FBI report to make sure everything is ok and to know what they are going to see.  It is possible to see things not on the report but it is good to run your own to make sure there isn't anything inaccurate or even a surprise.

 

Your spouse will need to know about all of the charges.  Expect it to come up at the interview.

 

[Nicholasstarr 3]

58 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

I had a friend in a similar circumstance to yours.   Domestic Violence / AWA.  Charged and pled down from a felony.  He was able to get an I-130 for a CR-1 approved without RFE.  Like others said be very truthful on the filing.  Ultimately USCIS/ DOS will want either certified copies of the disposition (sentencing) or a certified copy of no records found.   

 

For a K1 you have to get a waiver.   No waiver for a CR1.

 

I would order a copy of your FBI report to make sure everything is ok and to know what they are going to see.  It is possible to see things not on the report but it is good to run your own to make sure there isn't anything inaccurate or even a surprise.

 

Your spouse will need to know about all of the charges.  Expect it to come up at the interview.

 

I'm just not understanding why immigration attorneys are telling me that I need to supply them with criminal records? But, I'm not filling k3 or k1? The form i130 does not ask for those records? Are they trying to get extra fees out of me for filling out an extra piece of paper because there's really no money in this? I'm seriously starting to believe that regular normal everyday people who do self filing know more about this process than members of the bar association. Even if you go to uscis.gov and read the instructions it is crystal clear how to fill them out and if you're trying to apply for a k3 can you have two combined I 129f and I 130 forms together to petition that which is what requires criminal records because of the form I 129f but if the k3 Visa is obsolete and no longer given then that only leaves form i-130 and on form i-130 there is no field to fill in for criminal history? 

[Nicholasstarr 3]

1 hour ago, cantofla said:

You need to disclose ALL criminal history.

 

USCIS cannot be more specific and explicit in stating that.... If you fail to disclose it and it comes up in the background check, which they run, your petition will be denied .

Only forms I 129f ask about your criminal history. Filling out form i-130 does not. if you follow the instructions on USCIS government website it cannot be more clear in the instructions on how to fill it out that it is not a required field. For cr1 only.

[Nicholasstarr 3]

2 hours ago, Nicholasstarr said:

Me and my wife are getting ready to start our petition to USCIS. I've had multiple phone call consultations with lawyers that say to file for a spouse visa that I need to include all criminal history police reports court dockets prison records etc etc etc. I do have a criminal history nothing that falls under the Adam Walsh act. I did have a domestic violence charge that I plead not guilty to hired a lawyer and the prosecution dismissed the charges and did not pursue them I was never convicted in a court of law. Outside of that jest DUIs and miscellaneous misdemeanors resulting in fines. I'm under the assumption from doing my own personal study that these lawyers are confused and are trying to file my case the way you would a k3 spouse visa which includes the form I 129f in combination with form i-130. But I read that the k3 spouse visa is no longer available or is very rarely approved. Leaving only the i-130 to be the only form the US petitioner fills out to petition his immediate relative, wife, brother, sister, daughter or son. So my ultimate number one question is do I need to go through the hassle I'm trying to drum up ancient criminal history records to successfully complete a form i-130. We are filing cr1 NOT k1, k3. 

I-129f FILERS OR K1 FIANCE FILERS PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

1 hour ago, Nicholasstarr said:

Me and my wife are getting ready to start our petition to USCIS. I've had multiple phone call consultations with lawyers that say to file for a spouse visa that I need to include all criminal history police reports court dockets prison records etc etc etc. I do have a criminal history nothing that falls under the Adam Walsh act. I did have a domestic violence charge that I plead not guilty to hired a lawyer and the prosecution dismissed the charges and did not pursue them I was never convicted in a court of law. Outside of that jest DUIs and miscellaneous misdemeanors resulting in fines. I'm under the assumption from doing my own personal study that these lawyers are confused and are trying to file my case the way you would a k3 spouse visa which includes the form I 129f in combination with form i-130. But I read that the k3 spouse visa is no longer available or is very rarely approved. Leaving only the i-130 to be the only form the US petitioner fills out to petition his immediate relative, wife, brother, sister, daughter or son. So my ultimate number one question is do I need to go through the hassle I'm trying to drum up ancient criminal history records to successfully complete a form i-130. We are filing cr1 NOT k1, k3. 

Yes, unfortunately you need to go through and disclose the disposition of all those old cases even if you don't find them relevant they do. So you need to find the paperwork for all of them. You can ask @John & Rose about them needing all the old old disposition of court cases 

[Just Paul 4,591]

1 hour ago, Nicholasstarr said:

I'm just not understanding why immigration attorneys are telling me that I need to supply them with criminal records?

You are correct in that the I-130 for the petitioner does not mention criminal history.  However they will run a background check on the petitioner and if the charges for the Domestic Violence come up you will most likely get an RFE.  I know of several cases where it has come up. The process gets delayed while you go get the documents. .  They will want the Certified Court Copies.  My recommendation is to do yourself a favor and get the documents.  You will have 8 to 12 plus months to get them together.    It will also most certainly come up in your spouses interview as well.

 

And like I said before I would get a copy of your FBI file just to make sure there aren't any surprises.   The file is not always correct and it is better to get corrected while you have the time.

[John & Rose 7,237]

1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yes, unfortunately you need to go through and disclose the disposition of all those old cases even if you don't find them relevant they do. So you need to find the paperwork for all of them. You can ask @John & Rose about them needing all the old old disposition of court cases 

Our K-1 was denied because of a 30 year old misdemeanor arrest that was dropped and later expunged. I got some bad information from the agency I used to “help” me file. Even though no public records of my arrest have been available for many years, the government keeps everything. 

 

You will need to disclose the information and always be honest. The CR-1 is better since there are fewer AWA requirements but you will need to be honest. The beneficiary will have to be intimately aware of details as the CO may ask. 

[bakphx1 785]

They consider the entire case.  Especially when there are multiple DUI’s and misdemeanors that you seem rather blasé about.  

[Unlockable 7,306]

5 hours ago, Nicholasstarr said:

I-129f FILERS OR K1 FIANCE FILERS PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST. 

@Nicholasstarr

 

First warning.... it is against the site's TOS to tell others not to post. 

 

This is an open forum where ppl are free to post unless there are derogatory remarks. Anyone is free to post even if they have filed a different kind of petition. They may have knowledge of the process from time spent helping others.

 

Thank you.

[Calicolom 265]

4 hours ago, John & Rose said:

Our K-1 was denied because of a 30 year old misdemeanor arrest that was dropped and later expunged. I got some bad information from the agency I used to “help” me file. Even though no public records of my arrest have been available for many years, the government keeps everything. 

 

You will need to disclose the information and always be honest. The CR-1 is better since there are fewer AWA requirements but you will need to be honest. The beneficiary will have to be intimately aware of details as the CO may ask. 

Agree, 10 years ago FBI had just worked on inputting arrest records from 40 years ago. I am talking arrests only.

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

Sincerely hope u didn't hire and pay a lawyer who told you to file a K3