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i have a cousin that has a visa to visit. She’s currently pregnant and wants to give birth here. Now her father is doing her papers but it’s only been 4 years. She wants to know if she gives birth here would it complicate things when she goes to the interview for the  I-130? 

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As long as she makes sure all her bills are paid, does she realise how much this will cost?


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If public funds were used to pay for the birth, then yes.


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How does your cousin plan on paying for the delivery?  Does she realize how much it will cost?

 

If she does not pay, then she is likely to be considered a public charge which may mean she will not get an immigration visa.  The US is not keen on giving immigrant visas to foreigners who come and use our hospitals and leave US taxpayers with the bill.

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Posted (edited)

  You cousin would be denied a visa if the cost of the birth used public funds.   Also if she overstays the visa as part of the birth and delivery she could have a ban .

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It’s nearly impossible to put a price tag on giving birth in America, since costs vary dramatically by state and hospital. But one 2013 study by the the advocacy group Childbirth Connection found that, on average, hospitals charged $32,093 for an uncomplicated vaginal birth and newborn care, and $51,125 for a standard caesarean section and newborn care.

 

It’s probably fair to assume that costs have increased since 2013.

also, these are for uncomplicated births. 

When things go wrong – from pre-eclampsia to premature birth – costs can quickly spiral into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/16/why-does-it-cost-32093-just-to-give-birth-in-america

 

What is the rationale behind wanting to give birth in the US?

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17 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

 

 

What is the rationale behind wanting to give birth in the US?

Baby with US citizenship I'd assume. ;)


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3 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

The person has an immigrant visa petition in progress anyway though.

Then I honestly have no idea - they have too much money they want to spend on medical costs? :P


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If she is visibly pregnant, don't be surprised if CBP asks about her plans, in which case she must be honest. They will want to see evidence that she has the ability to receive proper care without any government assistance. This is something to be arranged with the provider and/or hospital beforehand, which estimates of the costs involved (in both typical cases and those with complications...which can be extremely expensive).

 

That said, @SusieQQQ nailed it - what's the reason for wanting to have the child born in the US? It's certainly not cheaper, and has many risks. It doesn't grant any pathway to permanent residency for at least 21 years (and recent policies of separating children from their parents prior to deportation is kinda frightening...).

 

16 hours ago, Dennv said:

She wants to know if she gives birth here would it complicate things when she goes to the interview for the  I-130? 

She doesn't interview for an I-130. The petitioner files one on her behalf, and she applies for the visa and interviews abroad. A new child doesn't significantly complicate the process....updating the I-130 and/or DS-260 (if already filed) is not an issue.

 

Depending on what visa category she falls into (presumably a family preference one), the child may only need a separate DS-260 and immigrant fee (to get the green card in the US).

 

If it's an immediate relative visa (i.e. under 21 unmarried child of a USC), then that's an issue as it does not permit derivatives. I guess that's one such case where it would be beneficial to give birth in the US...the child would be a USC and she could get a green card still.

Edited by geowrian

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5 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

What is the rationale behind wanting to give birth in the US?

Child gets CBP (the Coveted Blue Passport) and the opportunities consequent to it.


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1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

Child gets CBP (the Coveted Blue Passport) and the opportunities consequent to it.

In line for that anyway, so they’re just paying tens of thousands (possibly more) to speed up the process?

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

 

Depending on what visa category she falls into (presumably a family preference one), the child may only need a separate DS-260 and immigrant fee (to get the green card in the US).

 

If it's an immediate relative visa (i.e. under 21 unmarried child of a USC), then that's an issue as it does not permit derivatives. I guess that's one such case where it would be beneficial to give birth in the US...the child would be a USC and she could get a green card still.

OP indicated 4 year wait already so not IR. 

Edited by SusieQQQ

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12 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

OP indicated 4 year wait already so not IR. 

So they did...thanks!

Then yeah, this is a family preference visa, in which case the child would be a derivative and be eligible for an immigrant visa based upon the existing I-130.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

?/?/18: Approved (hopefully)

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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