The Dead Speak or at Least Vote in Colorado

[Dashinka 23,247]

Thought this was interesting.

To quote the great show Scrubs, "Dead people should be dead." They also shouldn't be voting--and an investigation out in Colorado shows that quite a few dead people are doing just that. A CBS4 investigation in several Colorado counties dug up some disturbing anecdotes of people "voting" several years after they died, and questions are being raised as to how dead voters are receiving ballots.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/297697-ballots-cast-by-dead-voters-in-colorado-report

[Teddy B 17,251]

Yet another article about voter fraud that proves absolutely nothing.

“It shows there is the potential for fraud.”

The investigation has resulted in criminal investigations in El Paso and Jefferson counties, in addition to a broad investigation by the Colorado Secretary of State's office.

"It's not a perfect system. There are some gaps," Williams said.

One case revealed a woman from Colorado Springs who died on Oct. 14, 2009, had ballots cast under her name from 2010 to 2013.

Wow, one case!?! I can't believe it. Perhaps it was a simple mistake? Someone with the same name in the same city? These unproven articles always pop up around election time.

[Dashinka 23,247]

Yet another article about voter fraud that proves absolutely nothing.

Wow, one case!?! I can't believe it. Perhaps it was a simple mistake? Someone with the same name in the same city? These unproven articles always pop up around election time.

Doesn't one fraudulent vote disenfranchise all those legally entitled to vote? I admit this story is mostly anecdotal just as the stories of those affected by voter ID laws, but we hear about those as well. As full disclosure, CO does have a voter ID law, but apparently this does not apply to absentee voting.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Doesn't one fraudulent vote disenfranchise all those legally entitled to vote? I admit this story is mostly anecdotal just as the stories of those affected by voter ID laws, but we hear about those as well. As full disclosure, CO does have a voter ID law, but apparently this does not apply to absentee voting.

No, not really. How does a (hypothetically) fraudulent vote by a dead person disenfranchise anyone?

Edited September 26, 2016 by Teddy B

[Dashinka 23,247]

No, not really. How does a (hypothetically) fraudulent vote by a dead person disenfranchise anyone?

Your vote could be canceled out or if you like its value would be diluted by the presence of a vote that shouldn't be there. I know, "it's just one vote" so who cares. I like to think that voting is a priveledge and a duty and to me just one example of someone voting illegally makes that feeling go away. Edited September 26, 2016 by Bill & Katya

[Teddy B 17,251]

Your vote would be canceled out or if you like its value would be diluted by the presence of a vote that shouldn't be there. I know, "it's just one vote" so who cares. I like to think that voting is a priveledge and a duty and to me just one example of someone voting illegally makes that feeling go away.

Disenfranchise means to prevent or deprive someone the right to vote. That wouldn't be the case in this instance where a dead person supposedly voted via absentee ballot. No one is deprived of voting because of that.

Absentee voter fraud does exist, but on a very small scale. In person voter fraud is basically non-existent. Voter fraud as a whole is so small that it's not a problem in any election. There will always be the odd case of a misplaced vote, but in many cases they are mistakes and not really fraud at all. No system is fool proof or perfect. Voter fraud is a manipulation tactic used by republicans to fire up their base.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Zombies in Colorado????? Say it ain't so!!!

[Teddy B 17,251]

Zombies in Colorado????? Say it ain't so!!!

Boiler lives in Colorado. Any coincidence?

Edited September 26, 2016 by Teddy B

[millefleur 5,035]

Haha, reminds me of this comic:

[Dakine10 5,452]

Absentee and mail in ballots always present the potential for fraud. No one disputes that, although the extent to which it occurs is overstated. Even when they make efforts to go looking for it, they find "disturbing anecdotes". Somebody who might have.

Unfortunately, the whole subject is usually put forth as the completely asinine suggestion that this somehow favors the Democrats over the Republicans and that the solution is stricter voter ID laws and jumping through hoops to comply.

In person voter fraud is so rare, it technically qualifies as a myth. It's a little bit like Big Foot sightings. Most of the people who think it exists really have bigger fish to fry.

[Ban Hammer 12,840]

http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/pdf/VoterFraudCases-8-7-15-Merged.pdf

[millefleur 5,035]

Absentee and mail in ballots always present the potential for fraud. No one disputes that, although the extent to which it occurs is overstated. Even when they make efforts to go looking for it, they find "disturbing anecdotes". Somebody who might have.

Unfortunately, the whole subject is usually put forth as the completely asinine suggestion that this somehow favors the Democrats over the Republicans and that the solution is stricter voter ID laws and jumping through hoops to comply.

In person voter fraud is so rare, it technically qualifies as a myth. It's a little bit like Big Foot sightings. Most of the people who think it exists really have bigger fish to fry.

I'm voting absentee and it was mildly annoying to get my ballot send to me. They verified it with my email address which I had provided when I signed up to vote way back when. Also had my dad (a regular voter who they know as it's a small county) call in and help me out since I'm overseas so they knew it was me and not a robot or a fraud. So, that seems semi-secure. They also checked it by comparing to the ID I have registered in the state with my dad's current address, not sure if that counts as ID-ing a voter. Might be different in different counties and states.

Probably in smaller counties they check more because there's just more accountability and they have more time due to a lower number of votes coming in, whereas in larger counties it seems like it would be easier for something to slip through the cracks.

Edited September 26, 2016 by millefleur

[Boiler 43,438]

Just got back from the Cemetery, Vote Crooked, expect a landslide.

Dirt above the graves is not stable.

Edited September 26, 2016 by Boiler

[ready4ONE 5,400]

The Echo Chamber at work again on this serious non-issue. Guess it will comfort them when the Rump doesn't win. The only reason will be voter fraud and a rigged election. It won't be because of how often Rump speaks without knowing, or seemingly even caring about the truth.

[eieio 1,594]

Democrats as a general rule are against voter id. They know it makes it more difficult for the dead to vote if they have to show some id.

It is as simple as that. Democrats are the party of criminals,terrorist lovers and corruption.