Marital union requirements (split)

[OldUser 5,065]

33 minutes ago, Marieke H said:

Could someone please explain what the purpose of this thread is? I'm lost.

I've got a feeling we're being trolled here or something.

 

OP, if you're serious, just post the outcome of your interview for our knowledge. People here only try to help you based on what we've seen so far on this forum. Hopefully, you would get a quick positive decision without RFE. Especially if IO doesn't bring the subject in the interview.

 

 

 

 

[Peli88 13]

11 minutes ago, OldUser said:

I've got a feeling we're being trolled here or something.

 

OP, if you're serious, just post the outcome of your interview for our knowledge. People here only try to help you based on what we've seen so far on this forum. Hopefully, you would get a quick positive decision without RFE. Especially if IO doesn't bring the subject in the interview.

 

 

 

 

There is not help here for me about this. You and Mike unfortunately don t make any sense. I ve read all their policy about this subject and https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-319/section-319.1 too. There is not mention anywhere about the interdiction of being gone alone for a period of time if indeed you remain in a marital coexistence. And it is normal to be like this otherwise you would be forced to live under the same roof for 3 years which obviously is a non sense. Many jobs /situations require travelling and being away from home...

 

Case closed, i am not going to continue on this subject. 

Please close this thread if possible.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Peli88

[Mike E 11,726]

29 minutes ago, Peli88 said:

 . For example having a business in his country of birth,

green cards are for living and doing business in America.  I’m unmoved by your argument.  
 

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 . There is no USCIS policy that states : during the 3 years you NEED to sleep under the safe roof with your partner and not to travel alone.

Hyperbole as an argumentative device is also leaves me unmoved. 
 

I do believe in spectrums though. 
 

If a couple  spends exactly 24 hours  apart from each other at exactly half of the 3 year period of marital union then I think it is safe to say 100 percent of ISOs will rule there is martial union.  
 

If a couple spends exactly 36 months less two days (the first day and last day)  aka 3 * 365 - w = 1093 days involuntarily apart during the 3 year period of marriage, I think it is safe to say most ISOs will conclude there is no martial union. 
 

Somewhere  on that  spectrum each ISO has a number of days involuntarily  apart that will cause them to  rule: “too much: case denied”. 
 

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Travelling does not end your marriage especially if it is a justified travel. So please stop spreading false rules.

Perhaps  you can quote  me where i claimed I said that traveling ends your marriage. 
 

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Read USCIS manual and then come with your point of view. Probably you re that type of person who drives on a 65mpq highway with 40 to be extra safe...

While it  is true  that I refuse to leave home with less than 40 kWh of reserve energy in my car’s battery I’m having trouble connecting that analogy to my belief that spending 90 consecutive  days from my wife would prefer her from naturalizing.  
 
 

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Quote from USCIS manual : "Required travel or relocation for employment". Required can mean anything if is important for the immigrant. Some people think that it is a requirement to do certain things in their life. I can give you many examples.

Taking a job outside the USA can cause DHS to conclude you abandoned  your LPR status.  
 

A green card is for living in America.  

Edited November 9, 2022 by Mike E

[nastra30 2,041]

Op, please update us with your case after the interview. Good luck.

[Rocio0010 5,572]

You may have reasons you think are valid. 
The IO may have reasons to deny that are valid as well. 
My husband went to work to another city for a month. Guess what I did over the weekends! Travel to be with him. 
The law is the law. Whether you like it or it’s inconvenient for you, that’s a whole other story. Having a bank account doesn’t mean much. Of course, other factors in your case will play a role when deciding. 
 

[Rocio0010 5,572]

5 hours ago, Mike E said:

green cards are for living and doing business in America.  I’m unmoved by your argument.  
 

Hyperbole as an argumentative device is also leaves me unmoved. 
 

I do believe in spectrums though. 
 

If a couple  spends exactly 24 hours  apart from each other at exactly half of the 3 year period of marital union then I think it is safe to say 100 percent of ISOs will rule there is martial union.  
 

If a couple spends exactly 36 months less two days (the first day and last day)  aka 3 * 365 - w = 1093 days involuntarily apart during the 3 year period of marriage, I think it is safe to say most ISOs will conclude there is no martial union. 
 

Somewhere  on that  spectrum each ISO has a number of days involuntarily  apart that will cause them to  rule: “too much: case denied”. 
 

Perhaps  you can quote  me where i claimed I said that traveling ends your marriage. 
 

While it  is true  that I refuse to leave home with less than 40 kWh of reserve energy in my car’s battery I’m having trouble connecting that analogy to my belief that spending 90 consecutive  days from my wife would prefer her from naturalizing.  
 
 

Taking a job outside the USA can cause DHS to conclude you abandoned  your LPR status.  
 

A green card is for living in America.  

I think this is your personal record of not “outing” yourself again in a thread. 
I was actually expecting that after your last statement. You made very valid points.

[Rocio0010 5,572]

14 hours ago, Peli88 said:

Don't forget that during COVID, US citizens where not allowed to travel to Europe

There were plenty of other countries where US citizens were allowed, for example Mexico. Couple could have made arrangements to meet elsewhere. That’s USCIS standpoint

[Cathi 5,621]

Why are you being so hostile towards people who are attempting to understand your situation and offer help?

[Peli88 13]

5 minutes ago, Cathi said:

Why are you being so hostile towards people who are attempting to understand your situation and offer help?

They can't offer help. They can't understand the written lines in USCIS manual. If you give them examples when the husband can't be home, they laugh. An user above tells me to meet my wife in a neutral country :)). They are just passionate about their believes and nothing more. Those type of people who think that if u are married with a woman you need kids to prove USCIS the union...

[Rocio0010 5,572]

10 minutes ago, Peli88 said:

Those type of people who think that if u are married with a woman you need kids to prove USCIS the union...

Not sure what you mean with that. I have never said anything about being married to a woman or a man, nor has @Mike E or @OldUser. We’re actually trying to help you understand how USCIS might see your case. That’s all. We don’t laugh at the husband not being home. Nobody has laughed. What were telling you is that USCIS will look at the efforts the couple has made to see each other and spend time together at the time. They’ve quoted lines of the manual that back them up, yet you twist them to fit your case. Europe is small and many countries were allowing USC

[Redro 4,601]

5 minutes ago, Peli88 said:

They can't offer help. They can't understand the written lines in USCIS manual. If you give them examples when the husband can't be home, they laugh. An user above tells me to meet my wife in a neutral country :)). They are just passionate about their believes and nothing more. Those type of people who think that if u are married with a woman you need kids to prove USCIS the union...

OP... can you explain YOUR specific situation? I'm a little confused. 

Is it just the 3 month trip to your home country during COVID or is it additional information of one spouse works as a trucker AND is going to night school? 

And when is the interview. If you've only been married for 3 years when did you get your GC? Generally, you can only apply for citizenship after 3 years married to a USC and 3 years of holding the GC. 

Have you had your I-751 interview yet or will it be a combo interview? 

 

[Crazy Cat 39,597]

This thread has my vote as most confusing of 2022. 😁

[Mike E 11,726]

47 minutes ago, Peli88 said:

They can't offer help. They can't understand the written lines in USCIS manual. If you give them examples when the husband can't be home, they laugh. An user above tells me to meet my wife in a neutral country :)). They are just passionate about their believes and nothing more. Those type of people who think that if u are married with a woman you need kids to prove USCIS the union...

You keep accusing me of writing things that I don’t believe I’ve said and you are unable to quote me saying those things.

What word do we used to describe  someone who claims someone else did or said something  without  providing evidence? 
 

For the record, my wife and I don’t have children between us. 

[Rocio0010 5,572]

17 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

This thread has my vote as most confusing of 2022. 😁

Hopefully OP will come back after the interview and enlighten us

[HandmadeTurnip 150]

I wish I could be a fly on the wall at OP's interview, I wonder if they'll try to "educate" the IO as well.