9 Antivax lies to watch out for this holiday season

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Know your just baiting me. I am just asking if the are related to the adults you also knew that died of the vaccine. could be a genetic thing.  I am sure that my request just ruined your day LOL

I hope it brings you joy.  Good day to you.

 

[Neonred 3,454]

Just thinking about the people I know.  Six I can think of that died, all of them not vaccinated.

 

Several more that got sick and recovered, all of them not vaccinated.

 

Can't think of anyone I know that got vaccinated and died or got sick with COVID.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,327]

24 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Just thinking about the people I know.  Six I can think of that died, all of them not vaccinated.

 

Several more that got sick and recovered, all of them not vaccinated.

 

Can't think of anyone I know that got vaccinated and died or got sick with COVID.

Pretty much every one I knows general experience 

[yuna628 9,534]

57 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Just thinking about the people I know.  Six I can think of that died, all of them not vaccinated.

 

Several more that got sick and recovered, all of them not vaccinated.

 

Can't think of anyone I know that got vaccinated and died or got sick with COVID.

Yep. Same here.

[TBoneTX 43,330]

14 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Anyone who pushes this shot on children

Gonna be facing this imminently.

[Dashinka 23,329]

On 11/27/2021 at 11:27 PM, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

https://gizmodo.com/9-antivax-lies-to-watch-out-for-this-holiday-1848113384

 

Satanic ingredients, mass death, and other debunked talking points from the anti-vaccination movement.

“The vaccines are based on untested, dangerous technology.”

This claim is centered mainly around the covid vaccines developed by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, which both are based on mRNA technology. These are the first mRNA vaccines authorized or approved for use in humans, but the underlying research needed to develop them has been ongoing for decades. Scientists were testing out mRNA vaccines in human trials even before the pandemic arrived in late 2019.

The pandemic did accelerate the course of typical vaccine development, which usually takes years, but much of this speed was gained by the legwork already done on mRNA vaccines, the huge marshaling of resources, including financial, needed to conduct large clinical trials, and the expedited review of the data by health agencies—not by cutting corners in the trials themselves.

“mRNA vaccines change your DNA.”
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“Vaccinated people are ‘shedding’ onto others.”

“The shots contain scary and/or satanic ingredients.”

“The vaccines are killing more people than the virus is.”

“Vaccines don’t prevent transmission.”

“The need for boosters proves the vaccines are useless.”

“Outbreaks in highly vaccinated countries show vaccines don’t work.”

“Kids don’t need the vaccine.”

Kind of a poor list as 2 and 5 are essentially the same thing, and it has been proven with science that the vaccine does not prevent the spread.  As to the bottom one, kids becoming severely sick or dying from Covid19 is miniscule, but I suppose this falls under the "if it saves one life" logic.

[TBoneTX 43,330]

On 11/28/2021 at 10:28 AM, jg121783 said:

Anyone who pushes this shot on children is mentally ill and criminally negligent

After what happened this morning, I'm going to have a 3-way fight on my hands.

[JoBri 545]

Well, we live in Germany where the vaccination rate is just 68%, and the COVID rate is going sky high. Every time you turn around here, you have to show proof of vaccination now. My wife got the booster early November, and I will get the booster on Friday. Our 11 year old son got the first dose last week on base. COVID is very, very low on military bases now, post vax, as compared to pre vax. Before the vaccine, it wasn't looking so good, with 11% infection rate. But post vaccine, positive cases are rare. 98.5% of active military have had at least one dose. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,327]

25 minutes ago, JoBri said:

Well, we live in Germany where the vaccination rate is just 68%, and the COVID rate is going sky high. Every time you turn around here, you have to show proof of vaccination now. My wife got the booster early November, and I will get the booster on Friday. Our 11 year old son got the first dose last week on base. COVID is very, very low on military bases now, post vax, as compared to pre vax. Before the vaccine, it wasn't looking so good, with 11% infection rate. But post vaccine, positive cases are rare. 98.5% of active military have had at least one dose. 

Omg Heresy. The vaccine just can't be really helping. You mean all 3 of you and an 11 year old got the vaccine and survived?

 

Being sarcastic.  Glad to hear things are working. 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

 

2 hours ago, JoBri said:

Well, we live in Germany where the vaccination rate is just 68%, and the COVID rate is going sky high. Every time you turn around here, you have to show proof of vaccination now. My wife got the booster early November, and I will get the booster on Friday. Our 11 year old son got the first dose last week on base. COVID is very, very low on military bases now, post vax, as compared to pre vax. Before the vaccine, it wasn't looking so good, with 11% infection rate. But post vaccine, positive cases are rare. 98.5% of active military have had at least one dose. 

Don't believe all the hype, my friend.  Germany is #90 when it comes to cases per 1mil population.  That's 90 out of 224.  The US has 2.1 times your case incident rate.  

 

Also, covid has had a VERY LOW rate across the military in general.  52 deaths to date, with ZERO in 2020.  Not what the media nor your military leaders are reporting, I know, but the sky is NOT falling.  If this mandate stuff continues, the military will lose FAR more members to attrition than to covid.

 

99.98% survival rate.  I'm sure you'll be just fine. 

Edited November 29, 2021 by LIBrty4all

[laylalex 7,253]

We're eligible for boosters on Friday and will have our sleeves rolled up ASAP. 

 

I haven't wanted to comment about the earlier thought that people who get their children vaxxed are criminally negligent and mentally ill, but I've had it rolling in my mind since I read it. I'm a stepmum to an eight year old who isn't eligible yet where she lives in England. Her four parents and step-parents have taken the time to speak with her GP and allergist over there, as well as speaking with medical professionals over here about the risks to children in getting vaxxed over getting COVID. Every single one of them supported -- even urged -- vaccination. Not only that, our little girl can't wait to get vaxxed. She worries about giving it to her mum's parents, who are in a high risk group. 

 

It's really, really offensive to say people who have made careful consideration of the risks and benefits with the consultation of trained professionals are mentally ill and criminally negligent. I wouldn't say the same about people who disagree with me and the choices our family is making, even if I strongly disagree with their decisions. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,327]

30 minutes ago, laylalex said:

We're eligible for boosters on Friday and will have our sleeves rolled up ASAP. 

 

I haven't wanted to comment about the earlier thought that people who get their children vaxxed are criminally negligent and mentally ill, but I've had it rolling in my mind since I read it. I'm a stepmum to an eight year old who isn't eligible yet where she lives in England. Her four parents and step-parents have taken the time to speak with her GP and allergist over there, as well as speaking with medical professionals over here about the risks to children in getting vaxxed over getting COVID. Every single one of them supported -- even urged -- vaccination. Not only that, our little girl can't wait to get vaxxed. She worries about giving it to her mum's parents, who are in a high risk group. 

 

It's really, really offensive to say people who have made careful consideration of the risks and benefits with the consultation of trained professionals are mentally ill and criminally negligent. I wouldn't say the same about people who disagree with me and the choices our family is making, even if I strongly disagree with their decisions. 

Well said. I too found that a tad offensive. Odd how it's all about personal choice and govt staying out of people's parenting decisions until you disagree with them, then you are mentally ill.

 

 You ever notice how people on both extremes of the political spectrum generally scream freedom the loudest but also generally scream the loudest when people disagree with them .

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,327]

1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

 

Don't believe all the hype, my friend.  Germany is #90 when it comes to cases per 1mil population.  That's 90 out of 224.  The US has 2.1 times your case incident rate.  

 

Also, covid has had a VERY LOW rate across the military in general.  52 deaths to date, with ZERO in 2020.  Not what the media nor your military leaders are reporting, I know, but the sky is NOT falling.  If this mandate stuff continues, the military will lose FAR more members to attrition than to covid.

 

99.98% survival rate.  I'm sure you'll be just fine. 

Troop COVID-19 death rate jumps 50-fold since 2020, August deadliest month by far

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/09/09/troop-covid-19-death-rate-jumps-50-fold-since-2020-august-deadliest-month-by-far/

 

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At the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, in late 2020, the military posted its deadliest month in November. Those four deaths were an anomaly in a year that saw mostly one or two deaths a month, if any ― until now. Eleven service members died of COVID-19 complications in August 2021, followed immediately by another death in the first few days of September.

 

 

[Allaboutwaiting 2,500]

26 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

You ever notice how people on both extremes of the political spectrum generally scream freedom the loudest but also generally scream the loudest when people disagree with them .

No matter which side people stand on, fanaticism is always wrong.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Fear mongering.  The only thing the left has left in their arsenal.

 

Ermagherd, FOUR WHOLE DEATHS!!!  

Meanwhile, 39 troops died in training accidents.