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Can we do our traditional engagement before fiance travels

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Hello guys,

I'm in the process of submitting the I129 for my fiance in Ghana. By the looks of it from tracking other people's timelines, if all things go well without delays, we should be able to get an interview by November or December. Since majority of his family live in Ghana, as well as my mother and her side of the family, we were planning to do our traditional engagement in December. Assuming he gets his visa before end of December, are we allowed to do this before he travels to the states? We will have a white wedding and court wedding once he comes. 

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Many people on here have been denied for these ceremonies.  Not sure if they were from Ghana or not.  Maybe do a search and see what comes up.  You will find a lot of stories to read.  

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40 minutes ago, missileman said:

Why not just marry in Ghana, and go the CR-1 route?

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1
    Faster arrival in the US  
    More expensive than CR-1    
    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)    
    Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 5-6 months)    
    Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 5-6 months)    
    Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period    
    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

  

CR-1
    Slower arrival in the US 

    Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
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Thank you for your thorough response. I'm curious to know if there has been people denied the visa AFTER approval? Basically is there anything else the consulate does after interview and approval of visa before the beneficiary travels? 

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1 minute ago, Abbyxo95 said:

Wow i never knew the denial after approval was a thing. Thank you all so much for your response

For a K-1, for example, there is one member here who recently was told approved but then was denied as they discovered an undisclosed criminal offense by the petitioner during final checks.

Another user had a valid K-1 visa but during POE, the CBP officer asked if they will marry. They responded with maybe they will and maybe they won’t. The officer determined that they were ineligible for the K-1 visa.

Another member was denied when CBP discovered documentation of a marriage abroad, so they were ineligible for the K-1.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent

12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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Here is an example of a ceremony which resulted in a denial....in Ghana.

 

 


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3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

For a K-1, for example, there is one member here who recently was told approved but then was denied as they discovered an undisclosed criminal offense by the petitioner during final checks.

Another user had a valid K-1 visa but during POE, the CBP officer asked if they will marry. They responded with maybe they will and maybe they won’t. The officer determined that they were ineligible for the K-1 visa.

Another member was denied when CBP discovered documentation of a marriage abroad, so they were ineligible for the K-1.

woow these are some wild stories! 

How did CBP discover documentation of marriage abroad. Was this marriage AFTER the interview approval or before and was missed by NVC, embassy etc? 

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3 minutes ago, Abbyxo95 said:

woow these are some wild stories! 

How did CBP discover documentation of marriage abroad. Was this marriage AFTER the interview approval or before and was missed by NVC, embassy etc? 

They saw it on their phones IIRC. The marriage was after the visa was issued.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent

12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Abbyxo95 said:

Thank you for your thorough response. I'm curious to know if there has been people denied the visa AFTER approval? Basically is there anything else the consulate does after interview and approval of visa before the beneficiary travels? 

Others have already posted examples. But I wanted to add another. There was even a case that was shared on here about a guy that got approved and was at customs in the US and when question about if he was gonna get married, he told the officer "We'll see" as if he was not sure. He was sent back to his country and as you could tell, the petitioner, his fiance, was extremely upset. The point is, there are several measures to ensure that you oblige to the requirements of the visa. Once a person starts going the road of trying to hide things, then they are already doing a disservice to themselves and to others who do it the right way.

 

Like we are advising, it is simply too much of a risk. 


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