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Hello! My friends were just approved for K-1 visa, and they had a wedding in the girl’s home country, before she left to America. They didn’t actually get married, no official docs signed, but they had the party, the dress, pictures all over the Facebook etc. They plan to get officially married at the courthouse when she gets there. Is there any chance this backfires at any point and how?

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1 hour ago, stacyt said:

Hello! My friends were just approved for K-1 visa, and they had a wedding in the girl’s home country, before she left to America. They didn’t actually get married, no official docs signed, but they had the party, the dress, pictures all over the Facebook etc. They plan to get officially married at the courthouse when she gets there. Is there any chance this backfires at any point and how?

Sure it could backfire.  Remember, the K1 visa is just the start of the immigration journey for many.  Even if she is allowed entry, questions could come up at any stage of the process.


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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There is a non-trivial risk of being "too married" for a K-1, even if the wedding isn't official. Best thing now for them now is to marry & do a CR-1 instead (withdrawing the I-129F). Do a quick search on VJ and you'll see what I mean...


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pitaya (火龙果) said:

Let's keep this short and sweet. How would your friends truthfully answer the question below? Yes or No.

 

REF: https://www.uscis.gov/i-129f , page 1 instructions.

 

Kinda had a wedding sounds a lot like being kinda pregnant.

Here is a very recent similarly-themed thread from last week in this forum, read some of the responses: 

 

So, I know they can’t lie in the application or in any of the forms. I went through k-1 myself and I would personally never take a risk like that, but we’re having a huge debate.

 

i know it usually backfires when people have any sort of engagement or wedding parties BEFORE the interview, but if they have it after and a few days before getting to the US and they don’t actually get legally married, I can’t recall a moment looking back at my immigration process where I would have to answer any type of questions about this. The next time they would have to fill out a form would be AOS and they will be legally married in the US

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People have been denied entry for this even after the visa is issued. CBP can deny entry if they believe you are no longer eligible for it.

How likely it is to happen is up for debate, but it is a very, very real risk. After going that far, I can't imagine it being worth it. Wait for AOS + AP in the US then have whatever celebration you want abroad and not have to worry about anything.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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21 minutes ago, stacyt said:

So, I know they can’t lie in the application or in any of the forms. I went through k-1 myself and I would personally never take a risk like that, but we’re having a huge debate.

 

i know it usually backfires when people have any sort of engagement or wedding parties BEFORE the interview, but if they have it after and a few days before getting to the US and they don’t actually get legally married, I can’t recall a moment looking back at my immigration process where I would have to answer any type of questions about this. The next time they would have to fill out a form would be AOS and they will be legally married in the US

Could backfire even after POE by being discovered at another point in the journey from POE to citizenship.  Sounds like someone went for the wrong visa.

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16 minutes ago, geowrian said:

People have been denied entry for this even after the visa is issued. CBP can deny entry if they believe you are no longer eligible for it.

How likely it is to happen is up for debate, but it is a very, very real risk. After going that far, I can't imagine it being worth it. Wait for AOS + AP in the US then have whatever celebration you want abroad and not have to worry about anything.

I agree.  We had our celebration back in Russia after Katya got her GC.


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Sure hope that no one looks at their phones at the POE.

 

Looks like a wedding?


March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

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If USCIS finds out about it there might not be a greencard in the future.


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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14 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

Sure hope that no one looks at their phones at the POE.

 

Looks like a wedding?

it looks like a real wedding on facebook, a lot of photos in the public domain. They are in the United States now. I told them it was a bad bad idea, you can have a problems in future , but they say  - we don’t see the problem

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4 minutes ago, ability said:

it looks like a real wedding on facebook, a lot of photos in the public domain. They are in the United States now. I told them it was a bad bad idea, you can have a problems in future , but they say  - we don’t see the problem

Thing about stuff posted on the internet---it can follow them forever.  May or may not become a serious issue for them as they go through AOS, ROC and later on N400.  On the plus side, it doesn't involve you directly as it's their issue, not yours.  At least you tried to warn them incase it comes up in the future.

 

People tend to not see things as a problem until it becomes one hitting them square in the face.


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July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Going through said:

Thing about stuff posted on the internet---it can follow them forever.  May or may not become a serious issue for them as they go through AOS, ROC and later on N400.  On the plus side, it doesn't involve you directly as it's their issue, not yours.  At least you tried to warn them incase it comes up in the future.

 

People tend to not see things as a problem until it becomes one hitting them square in the face.

this is my husband's best best friend , it’s a pity that people can suffer in the future because of their stupidity now 

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2 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I'm confused.  Does the OP have two accounts here?

People who lie have a tendency to have several accounts and post things like "asking for a friend".


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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