Untrue bill (cyberstalking) for i129f?

[Killerbee04x 25]

Untrue means I'm not guilty.. I'm not Innocent. It means the information provided by the law enforcement is false. Not true.. it's called a untrue bill. The law lied or provided misleading information..

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

Well, I graduated from law school in two different countries and have never encountered the term! 

 

It's sort of beside the point. The reality is (1) bogus charges were brought against you and (2) the court said they were bogus. This is great! All you have to do is tell USCIS this exact truth. You look good and totally vindicated. Not disclosing it makes you look bad and like you're hiding something. Transparency is key here. Be transparent, and things will go much better than if you don't.  

[Crazy Cat 40,000]

I don't understand why you are so combative........You asked if you have to list the arrest.  We have told you that yes, you have to list it......do have another question?

[SalishSea 17,006]

5 minutes ago, Killerbee04x said:

Untrue bill is real. It's when the information brought against you is false. It's what the court labeled it as.  

Which court labeled it as that?

[SalishSea 17,006]

Sounds like OP is incensed that he is expected to divulge the incident, even though it was given the nebulous "untrue bill" label, because he feels it violates his right to privacy.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Sounds like OP is incensed that he is expected to divulge the incident, even though it was given the nebulous "untrue bill" label, because he feels it violates his right to privacy.

Well, so much of the whole immigration process sucks and requires one to expose many ugly warts. I was aghast when I had to provide a relationship timeline as part of an RFE, because it looked like I had married some rando just a few days after my divorce went through if only the paperwork was looked at. But I was mired in divorce proceedings made infinitely longer by the solicitors for no good reason except billable hours, and by the time I had my decree absolute I had been with my fiance for almost 2 years, and we were living together. It was embarrassing to have to say, hey, technically I'm in an extramarital relationship because I'm still married to Husband No. 1, but the reality was I wasn't even living with Husband No. 1 when I met No. 2, and it took a while to figure out we even wanted to get married. At that point, it was a waiting game on when the divorce would finish. Once I had the decree in my hot little hands, I got remarried 11 days later -- but I had been waiting forever! I can type it out now on VJ without being embarrassed.

 

USCIS plays the tune, and we can only dance. Some of us are better dancers than others!

[Killerbee04x 25]

They don't need to know that's why and its illegal for them to ask about it. They can't say it's not being used as a risk assessment. Because it is making it a illegal act and my rights get violated. You either stand up for your rights or you have no rights. Rights just like everywhere else have to be maintained. It's not a guaranteed thing.. they list every arrest nowing it could be untrue charge. When I rejoined the military they did the same thing. It's illegal. They can't ask about a untrue charge, arrest, or other untrue bill. Its discrimination based on the fact they list it with every other arrest by not separating it from the other  arrests. They like trick you into discriminate against your self. Never allow the government to trick you Into hurting your self

[SalishSea 17,006]

1 minute ago, Killerbee04x said:

They don't need to know that's why and its illegal for them to ask about it. They can't say it's not being used as a risk assessment. Because it is making it a illegal act and my rights get violated. You either stand up for your rights or you have no rights. Rights just like everywhere else have to be maintained. It's not a guaranteed thing.. they list every arrest nowing it could be untrue charge. When I rejoined the military they did the same thing. It's illegal. They can't ask about a untrue charge, arrest, or other untrue bill. Its discrimination based on the fact they list it with every other arrest by not separating it from the other  arrests. They like trick you into discriminate against your self. Never allow the government to trick you Into hurting your self

Here is the bottom line:  lying on immigration forms is NEVER the thing to do.  There can be dire consequences, even years down the line.  There are no questions on the petition that USCIS is not "legally" allowed to ask. 

 

Ultimately, it is your hill to die on.  Good luck and let us know how it goes for you.

[Killerbee04x 25]

Why does my girl need to know? Why does it need to be in the packet? If its false (untrue bill) she doesn't need to know. Why do I need to discriminate against my self so the government can use it ask a risk assessment against me or my loved one.. Witch is illegal.. I have done no crime and being forced to release information that falsely represents my case..

[Killerbee04x 25]

I'm never said I would lie. I saying why do i have to provide any information at all if its untrue bill..why is a false claim still being used against me? 

[SalishSea 17,006]

Just now, Killerbee04x said:

Why does my girl need to know? Why does it need to be in the packet? If its false (untrue bill) she doesn't need to know. Why do I need to discriminate against my self so the government can use it ask a risk assessment against me or my loved one.. Witch is illegal.. I have done no crime and being forced to release information that falsely represents my case..

Would you rather she finds out from the CO during her interview?

[Shiran 1,134]

Pretty sure for the most part when they ask about it they just want to verify you are who you say are. They will run background check on you, and deep searches that will uncover every encounter with a law you ever had. And since they are the law, by definition what they do is legal. If they find something that you didn't disclose, you lied, petition denied have a nice day. You can be Don Quixote fighting the wind turbines, or you can get your 129F approved and move on with the rest of your life. 

[JFH 12,189]

2 hours ago, Killerbee04x said:

They can't deny me on that grounds. I can understand them ask for it from a non us citizen. They are under different rules as a green card holder. Asking a us citizen about a untrue arrest on the grounds of denial is illegal.. they can't ask for it.  

Calm down. Not every question asked is for the purpose of denial. You will both be asked many questions during this process which appear, to you,  to have no relevance. In my spousal visa interview I was asked how long my father worked overseas. For what purpose? Who knows. 

 

Many of the questions relating to criminal activity are asked to test your truthfulness and integrity. They don’t need to ask you anything, they can search any records they want (and they do). They want to make sure the answer you provide to the question matches what the records hold. Such questions are also asked to eliminate the possibility of identity mix-ups where the petitioner has the same name as someone on the watch list, for example. 

 

If you're that upset about it, get married and apply for a spousal visa. You don’t need to declare your arrests on the I-130. Although the way you are getting so hot and bothered about it looks suspicious. Ever heard the phrase “the lady doth protest too much, methinks”? If you’ve done nothing wrong, there’s nothing to worry about. 

[Killerbee04x 25]

More gimmicks to try to make me release information that false represents my case. It's not to identify me. 

[Killerbee04x 25]

Do you guys understand. They can't use a untrue bill. So can't ask for all arrest records.. its illegal. That statement alone make it void. I'm sure they have a gimmick where they'll say it didn't say to provide it.. they did. They are forcing me to provide information that falsely represents my case.