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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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My fiance is getting both homesick and has anxiety about marriage.  Our relationship is good - great, actually, but she doesn't want to get married now.  She wants to go back to her home in the next two months (within the 90 day window) and travel back to visit me later on a tourist visa.  We may possibly marry later this year over there and apply for a CR-1.

 

What is the likelihood for her getting approved for a tourist visa?  On the downside she is single with no strong ties to her country.  On the upside she has a history of travelling as a tourist and would have voluntarily returned from the US when she had a chance to immigrate on the K-1 visa.

 

Also, if she is approved I assume the same rule of thumb about staying away from the US for twice as long as she visits applies?  That is, after 2 months here on the K-1, she should stay away for 4 months before returning for 2-3 months as a tourist?

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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Highly unlikely that she'd get a tourist visa.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

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AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

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ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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It is not a chance based process, depends on her specifics.

 

What sort of job would she have that gave her so much vacation?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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If she can show strong ties to her country, there is always a possibility (maybe not a strong one)  of getting a tourist visa in the future......but she should not overstay her I-94 .

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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Demonstrated immigrant intent in the past by getting a K-1. Still has immigrant intent (they want to marry & file for CR-1). How to prove that there is no immigrant intent when there, in fact, IS?

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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4 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Demonstrated immigrant intent in the past by getting a K-1. Still has immigrant intent (they want to marry & file for CR-1). How to prove that there is no immigrant intent when there, in fact, IS?

It would definitely be an uphill battle, imo....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

It is not a chance based process, depends on her specifics.

 

What sort of job would she have that gave her so much vacation?

She has a job?

YMMV

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It is gong to be based on her ties to her home country.    She already has shown immigrant intent be coming in a K1.  Definitely possible, but not a probable success unless some time has passed and she has great ties.

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June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

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August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

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July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Thank you for the responses.

 

So, by being here on an approved K-1 but not marrying and returning before her I-94 expires is a negative for a future tourist visa because of immigrant intent?

 

I thought so but she thought that voluntarily giving up an immigrant opportunity would help her show she abides by the rules and help her case in the future.  

 

The future wedding thing is not set.  She is not ready yet for the final commitment and want to take more time until she is sure.I am not entirely sure why - we love each other and she loves being with me...but that is a topic for another type of forum or counseling. 

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Well, she applies and finds out.. we could speculate all day, but a CO decides whether or not an abandoned K1 could lead to a B2.

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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1 hour ago, SteveInBoston said:

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I thought so but she thought that voluntarily giving up an immigrant opportunity would help her show she abides by the rules and help her case in the future.  

 

 

Well, I’d ageee with your fiancée on this one, personally. Only way to know for sure is apply.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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You have mentioned one semi positive actor, not decided on one factor, how do you expect people to make sensible comments based on one factor.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Lithuania
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Very unlikely, that she'll get a B2. 
She's already here, make sure she doesn't overstay her K-1 I-94.
You guys can always do CR-1 later on, but remember that it'll take again, 12-14months. SO that'll add up to 2years of wasted time apart (incl K-1 NOA2 wait). IMHO sit down and talk, now it's the time to do that. I Hope you can figure it out, because if this is a big hurdle for her to overcome, and she's not ready for the commitment, in my view, she won't be ready to do CR-1 anytime soon, and on top of that she'll have 85% chance that her B-2 application will be denied.
With all my sympathy i would talk openly and find a way of being/not being together. Homesickness won't go away, ever. It might get to a point where you feel like home, but in the back of your head, those thoughts still linger, especially if you're alone for a while. The thing might be, that emigration/immigration might not be for her.
I'm not judging, or telling to leave, or force her to marry you. that's just my opinion, talk it out, show all the cards, and take it from there. We can only advise you two what to do legally more or less, emotionally, only you two can choose whats right, whats wrong.

Best Regards

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4 hours ago, SteveInBoston said:

Thank you for the responses.

 

So, by being here on an approved K-1 but not marrying and returning before her I-94 expires is a negative for a future tourist visa because of immigrant intent?

 

I thought so but she thought that voluntarily giving up an immigrant opportunity would help her show she abides by the rules and help her case in the future.  

 

The future wedding thing is not set.  She is not ready yet for the final commitment and want to take more time until she is sure.I am not entirely sure why - we love each other and she loves being with me...but that is a topic for another type of forum or counseling. 

Technically, she BROKE the rules because the K1 rules are to use it to enter the US AND get married to the US citizen petitioner within 90 days. 

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