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Now that my fiancee' has her SSN she should be able to open up a bank account right?  I tried to create a new bank account with her and I as both joint owners and it tells me she must be a U.S. citizen, U.S. resident alien to open up a discover bank account.  We have just applied for the AOS so we don't have a green card yet.  So what can we do? I'm confused as I thought people were saying once we have a SSN we could open a bank account, but this doesn't seem to be the case.


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K-1 Visa

06/19/2017:  Met online on a dating site (Date in Asia)

11/10/2017:  Met in person 1st time (traveled to Philippines: 11/8/2017 - 11/20/2017)

01/29/2018:  I-129F petition sent to the USCIS Dallas lockbox via USPS

01/31/2018:  I-129F petition delivered and signed by USCIS

02/06/2018:  Check was cashed ($535); Received acceptance confirmation email and text from USCIS; Case being transferred to CSC

02/08/2018:  NOA1 hard copy received via USPS (NOA1 received date: 01/31/2018; NOA1 notice date: 02/05/2018)

08/09/2018:  I-129F petition approved (total wait time: 190 days from received date and 185 days from notice date) 

08/13/2018:  NOA2 hard copy received via USPS

08/22/2018:  NVC received I-129F petition

08/23/2018:  NVC assigned case number

09/03/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 1)

09/04/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 2)

09/04/2018:  NVC sent I-129F petition to embassy

09/05/2018:  Embassy received I-129F petition

09/23/2018:  Met in person 2nd time (traveled to Philippines: 09/21/2018 - 10/07/2018)

09/24/2018:  Interview - Approved! (Interview took 236 days from received date and 231 days from notice date)

09/25/2018:  Attended the CFO - GCP session

09/28/2018:  Visa packet in hand (picked up at Robinson's Mall in Bacolod, Philippines)

10/03/2018:  Flew from BCD to MNL and back to get CFO - GCP sticker

10/06/2018:  POE at JFK airport in New York

10/22/2018:  Received marriage license application (applied on 10/17/2018)

11/07/2018:  Received SSN card (applied on 10/24/2018)

11/10/2018:  Married to my Honeybun!

AOS/EAD/AP

11/23/2018:  Packet sent to the USCIS Chicago lockbox via USPS

11/29/2018:  Packet delivered and signed by USCIS

12/05/2018:  Check was cashed ($1225); Received three acceptance confirmation texts (one for each form) from the USCIS

12/11/2018:  NOA1 hard copies received (one for each form) via USPS (NOA1 received date: 11/29/2018; NOA1 notice date: 12/03/2018)

12/13/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 12/07/2018)

12/26/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment at 9:00am at the USCIS Application Support Center in Charleston, SC

01/02/2019:  AOS case status update:  Ready to schedule interview

01/09/2019:  AOS case status update:  Interview scheduled

01/12/2019:  Interview appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 01/09/2019)

02/19/2019:  Interview for AOS:  I-485

??/??/2019:  Green card received in mail

01/02/2019 *State ID card - Applied and received temporary paper ID....waiting on real physical card ID.

*Added on joint bank accounts and 401K beneficiary and health insurance

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Did you get a SSN?


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Did you go in person or just apply online? Many banks won't let a non-citizen apply online.

The K-1 visa holder is permitted to have a bank account (individual or joint) just fine. Specific bank policies may differ, though.

Worst case, look around.


Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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If you are married she is not your fiancee'  anymore.   

 

You should be able to add her to your bank account but it might be an issue with the bank.   I had my wife added to an account while she still lived in the Philippines  before she even had her visa at a  bank and credit union.   Chase wouldn't let me.

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March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry

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My fiance (now husband) was able to join into my bank account before he even received his SSN. This was at Bank of America so maybe try there?


K-1 VISA

I129F Sent: 08/23/2017

NOA 1: 08/25/2017

NOA 2: 02/27/2018

NVC Received: 03/14/2018

NVC Case #: 03/15/2018

NVC Left: 03/24/2018

Embassy Received: 03/28/2018

Medical: 05/08/2018

Interview: 05/15/2018 

Visa issued: 05/18/2018

Visa received: 05/23/2018 

 

AOS

POE: 06/07/2018

SSN applied: 06/12/2018

SSN received: 06/28/2018

AOS Sent: 07/27/2018

Biometrics: 08/23/2018

Interview: 10/30/2018

Approval: 10/30/2018 

NOA2: 11/05/2018

Green card Received: 11/08/2018

 

 

NO MORE USCIS UNTIL ROC!!!!!😁

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Did you get a SSN?

Yes, she has a SSN already.

41 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Did you go in person or just apply online? Many banks won't let a non-citizen apply online.

The K-1 visa holder is permitted to have a bank account (individual or joint) just fine. Specific bank policies may differ, though.

Worst case, look around.

We tried to apply online as Discover is an online bank only. There are no physical locations that I am aware of.

40 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

If you are married she is not your fiancee'  anymore.   

 

You should be able to add her to your bank account but it might be an issue with the bank.   I had my wife added to an account while she still lived in the Philippines  before she even had her visa at a  bank and credit union.   Chase wouldn't let me.

Yes, I meant to say my wife who is here on a k-1 visa.  I guess I will try a different place.

19 minutes ago, K & R said:

My fiance (now husband) was able to join into my bank account before he even received his SSN. This was at Bank of America so maybe try there?

I will try Bank of America and see what happens thanks.


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K-1 Visa

06/19/2017:  Met online on a dating site (Date in Asia)

11/10/2017:  Met in person 1st time (traveled to Philippines: 11/8/2017 - 11/20/2017)

01/29/2018:  I-129F petition sent to the USCIS Dallas lockbox via USPS

01/31/2018:  I-129F petition delivered and signed by USCIS

02/06/2018:  Check was cashed ($535); Received acceptance confirmation email and text from USCIS; Case being transferred to CSC

02/08/2018:  NOA1 hard copy received via USPS (NOA1 received date: 01/31/2018; NOA1 notice date: 02/05/2018)

08/09/2018:  I-129F petition approved (total wait time: 190 days from received date and 185 days from notice date) 

08/13/2018:  NOA2 hard copy received via USPS

08/22/2018:  NVC received I-129F petition

08/23/2018:  NVC assigned case number

09/03/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 1)

09/04/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 2)

09/04/2018:  NVC sent I-129F petition to embassy

09/05/2018:  Embassy received I-129F petition

09/23/2018:  Met in person 2nd time (traveled to Philippines: 09/21/2018 - 10/07/2018)

09/24/2018:  Interview - Approved! (Interview took 236 days from received date and 231 days from notice date)

09/25/2018:  Attended the CFO - GCP session

09/28/2018:  Visa packet in hand (picked up at Robinson's Mall in Bacolod, Philippines)

10/03/2018:  Flew from BCD to MNL and back to get CFO - GCP sticker

10/06/2018:  POE at JFK airport in New York

10/22/2018:  Received marriage license application (applied on 10/17/2018)

11/07/2018:  Received SSN card (applied on 10/24/2018)

11/10/2018:  Married to my Honeybun!

AOS/EAD/AP

11/23/2018:  Packet sent to the USCIS Chicago lockbox via USPS

11/29/2018:  Packet delivered and signed by USCIS

12/05/2018:  Check was cashed ($1225); Received three acceptance confirmation texts (one for each form) from the USCIS

12/11/2018:  NOA1 hard copies received (one for each form) via USPS (NOA1 received date: 11/29/2018; NOA1 notice date: 12/03/2018)

12/13/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 12/07/2018)

12/26/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment at 9:00am at the USCIS Application Support Center in Charleston, SC

01/02/2019:  AOS case status update:  Ready to schedule interview

01/09/2019:  AOS case status update:  Interview scheduled

01/12/2019:  Interview appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 01/09/2019)

02/19/2019:  Interview for AOS:  I-485

??/??/2019:  Green card received in mail

01/02/2019 *State ID card - Applied and received temporary paper ID....waiting on real physical card ID.

*Added on joint bank accounts and 401K beneficiary and health insurance

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Different banks have varying policies.

 

Please note that after many years of experience (I am older than dirt😀) i suggest that you keep your current account in your name only and open 2 new accounts - a joint one and one in her name only.  When she transfers her savings to the US, put it in her account,  Make it easy to transfer funds between accounts.  I also recommend that not all accounts be in the same bank as they have been known to close. While the FDIC is quite efficient, you do not want to have all of your funds tied up even for a day.  Banks are also known to freeze an account on the death of one joint owner.

 

Credit unions are also a good source for your banking activity.  Many now offer home loans as well as the usual banking services.  My "best" bank is a credit union I deal with exclusively online.  Their savings deposit rates are much better than the banks.   Credit unions are generally more flexible than banks in dealing with their "members".  As a member you are part owner of the institution.

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I was able to open a bank account with a debit card without a SSN at Wells Fargo.


K-1 Visa

05-16-2018: Interview (Approved)

05-23-2018: Visa Issued

08-02-2018: P.O.E Austin

 

08-24-2018: Married :)

 

AOS/EAD/AP:

 

09-05-2018: Package sent.                                                                 10-29-2018: New application sent.

09-11-2018: AOS/EAD/AP NOA-1                                                      11-05-2018: Reception text messages

09-12-2018: Request expedite AP                                                     11-06-2018: Fees cashed

09-12-2018: Expedite AP USCIS answer (request evidence).       11-07-2018: Expedite AP requested

09-13-2018: Evidence Fax sent                                                          11-08-2018: Expedite AP denied

09-14-2018: Notice for biometrics                                                    11-09-2018: NOA1 Hard copies

10-03-2018: Biometrics appointment                                               11-28-2018: Biometrics

10-20-2018: Rejected! (Check bounced) 😢

 

 

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15 hours ago, Oritneye said:

I applied online with capital one. Had no issues.

Ok thanks good to know!

13 hours ago, CEE53147 said:

Different banks have varying policies.

 

Please note that after many years of experience (I am older than dirt😀) i suggest that you keep your current account in your name only and open 2 new accounts - a joint one and one in her name only.  When she transfers her savings to the US, put it in her account,  Make it easy to transfer funds between accounts.  I also recommend that not all accounts be in the same bank as they have been known to close. While the FDIC is quite efficient, you do not want to have all of your funds tied up even for a day.  Banks are also known to freeze an account on the death of one joint owner.

 

Credit unions are also a good source for your banking activity.  Many now offer home loans as well as the usual banking services.  My "best" bank is a credit union I deal with exclusively online.  Their savings deposit rates are much better than the banks.   Credit unions are generally more flexible than banks in dealing with their "members".  As a member you are part owner of the institution.

Yes this is exactly what I planned on doing.  I want to open a joint account and one account just for her.  Thanks.

 

27 minutes ago, Gibus said:

I was able to open a bank account with a debit card without a SSN at Wells Fargo.

Did you do this online or at a branch?


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K-1 Visa

06/19/2017:  Met online on a dating site (Date in Asia)

11/10/2017:  Met in person 1st time (traveled to Philippines: 11/8/2017 - 11/20/2017)

01/29/2018:  I-129F petition sent to the USCIS Dallas lockbox via USPS

01/31/2018:  I-129F petition delivered and signed by USCIS

02/06/2018:  Check was cashed ($535); Received acceptance confirmation email and text from USCIS; Case being transferred to CSC

02/08/2018:  NOA1 hard copy received via USPS (NOA1 received date: 01/31/2018; NOA1 notice date: 02/05/2018)

08/09/2018:  I-129F petition approved (total wait time: 190 days from received date and 185 days from notice date) 

08/13/2018:  NOA2 hard copy received via USPS

08/22/2018:  NVC received I-129F petition

08/23/2018:  NVC assigned case number

09/03/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 1)

09/04/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 2)

09/04/2018:  NVC sent I-129F petition to embassy

09/05/2018:  Embassy received I-129F petition

09/23/2018:  Met in person 2nd time (traveled to Philippines: 09/21/2018 - 10/07/2018)

09/24/2018:  Interview - Approved! (Interview took 236 days from received date and 231 days from notice date)

09/25/2018:  Attended the CFO - GCP session

09/28/2018:  Visa packet in hand (picked up at Robinson's Mall in Bacolod, Philippines)

10/03/2018:  Flew from BCD to MNL and back to get CFO - GCP sticker

10/06/2018:  POE at JFK airport in New York

10/22/2018:  Received marriage license application (applied on 10/17/2018)

11/07/2018:  Received SSN card (applied on 10/24/2018)

11/10/2018:  Married to my Honeybun!

AOS/EAD/AP

11/23/2018:  Packet sent to the USCIS Chicago lockbox via USPS

11/29/2018:  Packet delivered and signed by USCIS

12/05/2018:  Check was cashed ($1225); Received three acceptance confirmation texts (one for each form) from the USCIS

12/11/2018:  NOA1 hard copies received (one for each form) via USPS (NOA1 received date: 11/29/2018; NOA1 notice date: 12/03/2018)

12/13/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 12/07/2018)

12/26/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment at 9:00am at the USCIS Application Support Center in Charleston, SC

01/02/2019:  AOS case status update:  Ready to schedule interview

01/09/2019:  AOS case status update:  Interview scheduled

01/12/2019:  Interview appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 01/09/2019)

02/19/2019:  Interview for AOS:  I-485

??/??/2019:  Green card received in mail

01/02/2019 *State ID card - Applied and received temporary paper ID....waiting on real physical card ID.

*Added on joint bank accounts and 401K beneficiary and health insurance

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24 minutes ago, Tokenfreak said:

Ok thanks good to know!

Yes this is exactly what I planned on doing.  I want to open a joint account and one account just for her.  Thanks.

 

Did you do this online or at a branch?

Depends on state and bank rules.
in NJ they ask for 2 proof's (depending on the FIANCE/WIFE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN). Passport is one, other SSC OR previous debit,credit card in her name from home country, (they didn;t consider European union ID card, nor drivers' licence as a valid ID in USA to ADD her to my account).
You should be able to get a bank account in Wells Fargo definitely. Passport + Social will definitely work.
By the way, how long did it take for you guys to get the Social Sec card from application?

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@Tokenfreak I did it at the local branch, went with my wife and they said without a SSN, they could only open a checking account with a debit card, which suits me well for now ;)


K-1 Visa

05-16-2018: Interview (Approved)

05-23-2018: Visa Issued

08-02-2018: P.O.E Austin

 

08-24-2018: Married :)

 

AOS/EAD/AP:

 

09-05-2018: Package sent.                                                                 10-29-2018: New application sent.

09-11-2018: AOS/EAD/AP NOA-1                                                      11-05-2018: Reception text messages

09-12-2018: Request expedite AP                                                     11-06-2018: Fees cashed

09-12-2018: Expedite AP USCIS answer (request evidence).       11-07-2018: Expedite AP requested

09-13-2018: Evidence Fax sent                                                          11-08-2018: Expedite AP denied

09-14-2018: Notice for biometrics                                                    11-09-2018: NOA1 Hard copies

10-03-2018: Biometrics appointment                                               11-28-2018: Biometrics

10-20-2018: Rejected! (Check bounced) 😢

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tokenfreak said:

 

 

Did you do this online or at a branch?

At Wells Fargo they will take your info as the foreign spouse online or over the phone but you still will have to bring your documents into the branch.

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If they mention "resident alien", I think a foreign national with an address in the US is a resident alien, so not sure how your wife doesn't qualify. I don't remember what Discover requires for a checking account, I got one with them about half a year ago, but I don't think they'd make it more difficult than a credit card. I got a "Discover It" credit card 3 years before we even applied for AOS. To be fair, by then I've been in the States on a work visa for a couple of years, and already had some history, including a car loan, a leased car, an apartment lease, a bank account, a few cards, and a job. So it doesn't look like you have to be a citizen or a legal permanent resident.

 

Discover has decent phone support, I'd recommend calling them and asking what's up:

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If you have any questions during the opening process, please call our U.S.-based Banking Specialists 24/7 at 1-800-347-7000.

 

My first bank account in the US was with a regional bank and I had to put my office address as the billing address (I hadn't locked down an apartment yet), so I agree with recommendations to start with a local bank/credit union, and go from there.

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07-15-2016     Married

03-25-2017     AOS packet sent (i-130 + i-485 + i-765 concurrent)

03-27-2017     AOS packet received according to USPS tracking number

04-06-2017     NOA1 emails and texts received

04-10-2017     NOA1 hard copies received

04-15-2017     Biometrics appointment letter received

04-25-2017     Biometrics appointment

05-06-2017     RFE mailed

07-05-2017     RFE response mailed

07-06-2017     RFE response received according to USPS tracking number

07-12-2017     RFE response receipt on 07-10-2017 confirmed via email and text

07-22-2017     i-765 case updated with "we updated your name" message

07-25-2017     EAD card mailed

07-26-2017     EAD card mailing notification (email and text) received

07-28-2017     EAD card in hand

08-01-2017     "Interview scheduled" texts and email received

08-01-2017     Hard copy interview letter (I-797C) received

08-30-2017     Scheduled interview.

08-30-2017     9 hours after getting out of the interview received email "we ordered your new card".

08-31-2017     33 hours after getting out of the interview received texts about case updates (i.e. texts were received 24 hours after emails).

08-31-2017     Hard copies of i-130 and i-485 approval notices received.

09-05-2017     "Card mailed" update on USCIS web site with notifications via text and email. Nothing on my USPS dashboard.

09-06-2017     Tracking number posted to USPS dashboard with "pre-shipment info sent".

09-08-2017     Green Card in hand.

09-11-2017     Online Request to fix the typo in the last name on the Green Card submitted.

09-20-2017     Infopass appointment. Result: "It's easier to wait for ROC and make sure they spell you name correctly at that time."

09-25-2017     Email received in response to the online request: "Infopass is the way to do this".

 

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Discover = credit card account. Presumably she has no credit history? Discover, as well as most banks, will not issue a credit card to her. She needs to start building her credit history first. 

 

Some banks have programs called 'Path tp Credit' that help individuals with no previous credit history start building up their credit. For example, Capital One opened a credit card account for me that had a $200 limit (plus I believe I had to prepay certain amount, ~$50 - can't remember exactly). The key is to use it as much as possible and pay it off right away. In a few months she should be able to open an account with a smaller credit line elsewhere.

 

As per bank account/debit card - you should have no issues opening one for her in person an adding her to your existing one.


Timeline:

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08/19/2016 - I-485, I-130, I-765 sent to USCIS office in Chicago.

08/22/2016 - day 0 - package received and signed by CHYBA.

08/23/2016 - day 1 - priority date.

08/31/2016 - day 9 - electronic NOAs received via text and email, check is cashed.

09/06/2016 - day 15 - hard copies of NOAs received in the mail.

09/08/2016 - day 17 - biometrics appointment notice received in the mail (appointment date 09/19/2016).

09/13/2016 - day 22 - early biometrics walk in.

10/28/2016 - day 67 - EAD status changed to "New Card Is Being Produced".

10/28/2016 - day 67 - EAD status changed to "Case Was Approved".

10/31/2016 - day 70 - received EAD approval letter in mail.

11/10/2016 - day 81 - EAD status changed to "Card Was Mailed".

11/16/2016 - day 87 - EAD card received in mail.

02/10/2017 - day 173 - Submitted Change of Address request.

02/17/2017 - day 180 - Submitted a Service Request.

04/27/2017 - day 218 - online account said that response to service request has been sent, however no response received (to this day).

06/20/2017 - day 302 - At infopass appointment found out that my case was supposedly scheduled for interview in October, but because home country took forever to respond to security check request, it was postponed; case was in security check until 06/19/2017 & was returned a day before my infopass appointment.

06/27/2017 - day 309 - contacted the congressman office.

07/18/2017 - day 330 - heard back from congressman office; submitted Release of Information forms for both myself and my husband.

07/28/2017 - day 340 - finally received an interview appointment in mail (online status has not changed).

08/31/2017 - day 374 - Interview; I-485 status changed to 'New Card Is Being Produced'

09/05/2017 - day 379 - I-485 status changed to 'Card Was Mailed To Me'; received approval letters in mail for I-485 and I-130

09/08/2017 - day 382 - Greencard received in mail

 

06/02/2019 - ROC window opens

 

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