Blue Wave

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

44 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

I don't think the founding fathers ever imagined that a state like Wyoming with a population of under 600,000 having an equal voice in the Senate as that of California with a population of just shy of 40 million.  

I agree it's totally unfair. 

 

So the only fair solution is to allow only 600,000 Californians to vote. 

[Póg mo 1,749]

8 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

I agree it's totally unfair. 

 

So the only fair solution is to allow only 600,000 Californians to vote. 

Or perhaps a more nuanced approach could be undertaken. Give larger States a couple of extra senators, to help balance out the rise of partisan politics, and return to having senators being by state legislative bodies. The Senate was supposed to help quel populism, not facilitate it.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

16 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Or perhaps a more nuanced approach could be undertaken. Give larger States a couple of extra senators, to help balance out the rise of partisan politics, and return to having senators being by state legislative bodies. The Senate was supposed to help quel populism, not facilitate it.

some states are more equal than others?

[Póg mo 1,749]

10 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

some states are more equal than others?

Would it make you feel better if California was split into two or more pieces?

[JimandChristy 1,689]

2 hours ago, missileman said:

and allow the left and right coasts to decide what is best for most of the states?  I don't think so.........the founding fathers were much smarter than some posters around here...

They wouldn't, they be voting what is best for their States because voila there are more people there!

 

One senator in California represents 20 million people.

One Senator in Texas represents 14 million people.

 

One Senator in Wyoming represents 250,000

One Senator in Vermont represents 300,000.

 

It is absolutely ludicrous that the Senators from Vermont/Wyoming have just as much power as the Senator from Texas/California. It's a false Democracy.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

1 hour ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

I agree it's totally unfair. 

 

So the only fair solution is to allow only 600,000 Californians to vote. 

So 39,400,000 people are ignored? Won't have the right to vote? Bananas.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

18 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

So 39,400,000 people are ignored? Won't have the right to vote? Bananas.

To be honest I think most of the country tries to ignore the 39 million any way, most of them are bananas 

[Boiler 43,494]

20 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

So 39,400,000 people are ignored? Won't have the right to vote? Bananas.

Wish we could, a lot of them seem intent on moving elsewhere and screwing other States up.

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

It's outdated, plain and simple, land doesn't vote, people do. People in more rural States shouldn't have more power in their vote than people who live in populated areas like the city and Suburbs.

Wait, didn’t you say the electoral process that elected Trump was outdated, and unfair, since Hillary carried the popular vote?

 

NVM, I see you already put your foot in your mouth on that one too.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Satisfied

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

They wouldn't, they be voting what is best for their States because voila there are more people there!

 

One senator in California represents 20 million people.

One Senator in Texas represents 14 million people.

 

One Senator in Wyoming represents 250,000

One Senator in Vermont represents 300,000.

 

It is absolutely ludicrous that the Senators from Vermont/Wyoming have just as much power as the Senator from Texas/California. It's a false Democracy.

Have you ever lived in CA or NY?

[Mansini77 100]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

They wouldn't, they be voting what is best for their States because voila there are more people there!

 

One senator in California represents 20 million people.

One Senator in Texas represents 14 million people.

 

One Senator in Wyoming represents 250,000

One Senator in Vermont represents 300,000.

 

It is absolutely ludicrous that the Senators from Vermont/Wyoming have just as much power as the Senator from Texas/California. It's a false Democracy.

The Senate and the House of Representatives are about checks and balances.  While each state elects two senators, each state is divided up into congressional districts represented roughly by population.  

 

So while both California and Wyoming have two senators each, California has 53 congressional seats in the House while Wyoming has a grand total of 1.

 

The United States is not a democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 minutes ago, Mansini77 said:

The Senate and the House of Representatives are about checks and balances.  While each state elects two senators, each state is divided up into congressional districts represented roughly by population.  

 

So while both California and Wyoming have two senators each, California has 53 congressional seats in the House while Wyoming has a grand total of 1.

 

The United States is not a democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic.

I applaud your effort (and agree with you 10,000%), but I assure you, it is wasted.  You really must know your audience before you can make an impact.

 

Haven’t you heard?  The electoral college is unfair and unconstitutional...

[Mansini77 100]

4 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

I applaud your effort (and agree with you 10,000%), but I assure you, it is wasted.  You really must know your audience before you can make an impact.

 

Haven’t you heard?  The electoral college is unfair and unconstitutional...

Hmrph...well...we do live in this Republic that was founded by a bunch of slave owning white guys who were intolerant of transgender issues.  So everything written in the Constitution is classified as hate speech and therefore null and void.  ~sarc~

[TBoneTX 43,081]

The Blue Wave completely upended things down-ballot, too.

 

In Harris County, Texas (encompassing most of Houston), straight-ticket voting threw out all incumbent judges.

This includes the long-time County Judge, who was very popular and was respected by all.

He very ably led the disaster management and recovery efforts during Hurricane Harvey.

 

His replacement is a 27-year-old girl who has never even attended a Commissioners' Court meeting.  See:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/election/local/article/Hidalgo-surprise-victor-in-Harris-County-judge-13372415.php

 

Harris County is apparently the third-most populous county in the U.S.

 

Edited to add:  Many people wouldn't insult a dead fish by wrapping it in the Houston Chronicle.

Edited November 9, 2018 by TBoneTX

[Chris Duffy 1,256]

44 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

The Blue Wave completely upended things down-ballot, too.

 

In Harris County, Texas (encompassing most of Houston), straight-ticket voting threw out all incumbent judges.

This includes the long-time County Judge, who was very popular and was respected by all.

He very ably led the disaster management and recovery efforts during Hurricane Harvey.

 

His replacement is a 27-year-old girl who has never even attended a Commissioners' Court meeting.  See:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/election/local/article/Hidalgo-surprise-victor-in-Harris-County-judge-13372415.php

 

Harris County is apparently the third-most populous county in the U.S.

 

Edited to add:  Many people wouldn't insult a dead fish by wrapping it in the Houston Chronicle.

What about Austin?

 

I believe it draws liberals from all over the country to move there, and being a college town I am sure it is already a liberal base there to start with.