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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Argentina
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hi

ditto, that's what I was thinking, that maybe he's confused or doesn't know the terms

she could have applied based on the 3 year rule, but because she wasn't eligible to get citizenship due to divorce, she has to reapply after 5 years of being a GC holder

but reading the post again, they have been married for so long and they just got divorced this year so she was eligible to get citizenship, but not in 2 years of being a GC holder, something doesn't add up here

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This timeline makes no scense. :o

How did she enter in 2007 and get citizenship 2009? (2 years)

Hes not telling this story correctly.

And had she been married 9 yrs how does some family court judge strip her of her citizenship?

Could it be she applied and failed the test and has to reapply? This is the only scenario i can think that would allow her to no have citizenship and keep her greencard.

IF ANYONE knows another one please tell me.

This story smells bad!!

OP if you dont know her citizenship timeline i belive that in itself proves you dont have a bonifide relationship.

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Ghana
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she lost her citizenship and she get back her past green card and as per court order she can apply for U.S citizenship anytime again. but she have to follow all the rules to get citizen like a new U.S ciziten applier.

That's not the truth. She's lying of she said that. We live in America and it has never happened. What's your native language and I'm going to translate to you in a private message. Most people on here divorce and marry other people and nobody looses their citizenship. It never happens
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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If someone is already a US citizen, I don't see how he or she can lose that status through divorce unless USCIS deemed that the initial green card was obtained fraudulently.

Something about this story is not right.

The above is correct. If she truly had US citizenship, the only way to loose it is if she got it fraudulently, in which case you will have a huge issue getting approved. Most likely she got her 10 year permanent greencard in 2009, and never applied for US citizenship.

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Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: FB-2 Visa Country: Bangladesh
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Really it happened at Michigan and my girlfriend is getting prepared for aapply for get citizen again

Apnar girlfriend apnake buka baniyeche,divorce er jonno citizenship batil hoina,green card pawar 4/5 bochor por citizenship porikkha dite hoi,tahole green card pawar 2 bochor por uni kivabe porikkha diben/diyechen,apnake buka banacche,apnake akta poramorsho dei,proti thursday fb te us embassy page a dupur 3.30 theke 4.30 porjonto visa chatting hoi,oikhane apni embassy consuler er kache ask kore dekhte paren,shotti ta jante parben.good luck
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Apnar girlfriend apnake buka baniyeche,divorce er jonno citizenship batil hoina,green card pawar 4/5 bochor por citizenship porikkha dite hoi,tahole green card pawar 2 bochor por uni kivabe porikkha diben/diyechen,apnake buka banacche,apnake akta poramorsho dei,proti thursday fb te us embassy page a dupur 3.30 theke 4.30 porjonto visa chatting hoi,oikhane apni embassy consuler er kache ask kore dekhte paren,shotti ta jante parben.good luck

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Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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yes she lost the citizenship for divorce her ex husband. Because he wasn't agree to divorce and he hadn't sign any kind of divorce proceeding paper. Even he don't hire any attorney for himself while the divorce case was running. It was happend at Michigan, USA

You are not listening. If she was legally granted US citizenship, she doesn't loose that through divorce. Get your facts straight before you embark on an immigration journey. Find out if she ever got US citizenship or what her actual resident status is like. This is gonna be critical to your potential visa.

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I-129F sent: 12/23/2014
NOA-1: 12/29/2014
NOA-2: 06/05/2015 (158 days)
NOA-2 hardcopy: 06/11/2015 (6 days post NOA-2, 164 days total)
Sent to NVC: 06/16/2015 (11 days post NOA-2, 169 days total)
NVC receive: 06/25/2015 (20 days post NOA-2, 178 days total)
NVC case no: 06/30/2015 (25 days post NOA-2, 183 days total)
NVC left: 07/02/2015 (27 days post NOA-2, 185 days total)
Case Ready: 07/07/2015 (32 days post NOA-2, 190 days total)
submitted DS-160, paid visa fee.: 07/21/2015 (46 days post NOA-2, 204 days total)
Packet 3 sent: 07/25/2015 (50 days post NOA-2, 209 days total)
Pack 4 received: 07/30/2015 (55 days post NOA-2, 214 days total)
Medical: 09/17/2015 Interview: 09/23/2015 (108 days post NOA-2, 268 days total)
Interview Result: Approved Administrative Processing: 09/23/2015
CEAC Status Issued: 09/24/2015
Visa in hand: 09/28/2015
POE: 12/29/2015 Wedding: 01/11/2016


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AOS package received: 01/20/2016 (day 1)
AOS NOA-1 text/email: 01/23/2016 (day 3), actual NOA-1 date 01/22/2016 (day 2)
AOS Fingerprint fee received: 01/22/2016 (day 2)
AOS check cashed: 01-25-2016 (day 5) Got 6 month NJ driver's license: 01-25-2016
3x NOA-1 hardcopies: 02/03/2016 (day 14)

Biometrics letter: 02/05/2016 (day 16) Biometrics appt (Elizabeth, NJ): 02/17/2016 (day 28)

EAD and AP approved email/txt: 03/29/2016 (day 67)

GC approval email/text: 04/04/2016 (day 74)

I-797 for I-765/I-131 in mail: 04/04/2016 (day 74)

EAD/AP delivered: 04/05/216 (day 75)

GC card being mailed status update: 04/07/16 (day 77)

GC received: 04/11/16 (day 84 post AOS NOA-1)

DONE WITH USCIS FOR 21 MONTHS!

ROC Window opens: 01/04/2018

 

ROC Time Line
ROC package mailed to Vermont 01/04/2018
ROC package received at Vermont 01/08/2018 (day 0)
Check cashed: 01/16/2018 (day 8 )
NOA-1 date: 01/09/2018 (day 1)
NOA-1 received: 01/16/2018 (day 8 )
Biometrics notice received: 02/09/2018 (day 32)
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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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He has access to a computer, he can look up himself instead of just repeating tosh on here.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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I have a divorce under my belt and also got my citizenship 15 years ago -- the only thing I lost was my fish tank, savings, some sleep and an ex. I have walked away with all that I needed and cared for, my kid & peace of mind (and yes, my citizenship!). My citizenship never came up during the divorce proceedings nor would it ever come up!

There are some rare cases where a naturalized US citizen can have his/her citizenship revoked. You have had some excellent replies here, however if you cannot take our word for it, follow this link and read it directly from the "horses" mouth, so to speak -- https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartL-Chapter2.html

My best to you...

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USCIS
09/07/16: I-130 mailed
09/12/16: NOA1 email
01/11/17: Received an RFE
02/20/17 RFE Response
03/01/17: NOA2 / I-130 Approved (letter)

NVC 

03/17/17: NVC received

03/21/17: Submitted DS-261 (Online Choice of Address and Agent)

03/22/17: Received DS-261+ AOS Bill
03/22/17: AOS Bill Paid
03/27/17: Received + Paid IV Bill

04/20/17: PCC + New Birth Certificate received (took 4+ weeks)
04/25/17: Sent AOS + IV Package
06/27/17: CC confirmed on the phone (NVC)
06/28/17: Interview date confirmed on the phone (NVC)
06/30/17: P4 Letter received (via email)
07/06/17: Second identical P4 email received
07/10/17: Our case left NVC
07/13/17: Case arrived at New Delhi Consulate

07/18/17: Email received from New Delhi Embassy about Biometrics/VAC

07/18/17: Email received from New Delhi Embassy (missing Marriage Certificate - must have lost it since we included this in the RFE during the USCIS stage + got approved!)

07/18/17: Biometrics scheduled via UStraveldocs site
07/21/17: Biometrics completed

07/25/17: Medical scheduled (Max in Lajpat)

07/26/17: Medical completed (will be ready to pick up in 3-4 days)
08/01/17: Medical papers ready for pickup

08/16/17: Interview Day

08/16/17: Visa Approved - Woohoo! 💕

08/17/17: Visa issued + passport ready for pickup

08/18/17: Passport and sealed envelops picked up

08/19/17: Immigration Fee ($220) paid via ELIS
08/25/17: Plane ticket purchased (POE on Sep) 😍
09/14/17: POE at Dulles 

ROC

09/10/19: I-751 Packet sent 🤘
09/20/19: NOA I-797 received! 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Cuba
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I agree. This definitely does not seem possible nor likely. It sounds like there is a miscommunication going on between either you two, or between her and USCIS. They don't just strip you of your U.S. citizenship even if you were naturalized for a reason such as divorce, it would have to be something very severe and significant, and like previously mentioned there is almost no way they would just hand her a green card after that if that is what actually happened. Maybe she is and always has been a legal permanent resident, I'm not really sure but there is definitely a form of miscommunication or misunderstanding going on here. As also previously mentioned, the age gap doesn't seem to be an issue as long as you can provide evidence of you two having a legitimate relationship such as pictures, constant communication, (skype, viber, whatsapp, facetime, facebook,etc) and evidence of any visits to the U.S. or to your country on her behalf. (think passport stamps, itineraries, flight tickets/boarding passes,etc)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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And what it boils down to us no one here can really help you since we don't know the status of girlfriend and since the story you've given makes no sense no one can answer your question about visa approval since the situation you've outlined is just not possible. So no, we can't ignore the whole citizenship thing because you're entire chance of being successful depends on the truth.

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  • NOA2/I130 Approved: February 8, 2016 (NO RFE) :)
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I'm with everyone else here. Something is off with the inquiry. Either the GF is sketchy, the OP is about to enter a fake, not-bonafide marriage or we're all misinformed and it is really possible to lose citizenship within the timeline explained.

25 January 2010: Concurrent filing of I-130, I-485, EAD and AP - sent via UPS overnight delivery to Chicago Lockbox

26 January 2010: Received by receptionist CHIBA at 8:30 AM/Received date on NOA

02 February 2010: Checked cashed/Notice date

05 February 2010: Received NOA's for I-130,I-485,I-131,I-130

13 February 2010: Received ASC Appointment Notice for Biometrics.

17 February 2010: Date of RFE for Federal Tax 1040/Received Text & Email confirmation

19 February 2010: Received RFE in mail

22 February 2010: Mailed Response to RFE via USPS Express mail

24 February 2010: Package delivered and received at Lee's Summit office

26 February 2010: Biometrics DONE/RFE Received-case processing resumed

17 March 2010: Email approval notifications - EAD & AP.

22 March 2010: Received AP by mail. Received interview schedule notice for 22 April.

22 April 2010: Greencard Approved :)

Removal of Conditions

24 January 2012: Sent I-751 petition via USPS Overnight

25 January 2012: Delivered at CSC, Receipt Date NOA1

27 January 2012: Checked cashed

30 January 2012: Received NOA in mail.

06 February 2012: Received Biometrics notice (dated 03 Feb)

02 March 2012: Biometrics appointment.

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I see 3 scenarios here:

1. She has very bad English skills and doesn't know what she's talking about

2. She's naive and believed lies her ex husband told her about her immigration status

3. She is lying to you

I vote

4 - All of the above

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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