Job history - reneging after signing I-9, does this need to be reported? (merged)

[quesquesquesques 1]

If one reneged after filling and signing I-9 but later reneged and never started/worked at the job, does this need to be reported in job history? I am very worried that since I-9 was filed DHS/government's record may indicate that one had omitted a job from their job history and it could cause problems during their naturalization? Please advise. Thanks!

Edited October 10, 2022 by quesquesquesques

[quesquesquesques 1]

@pushbrk @JFH @Ontarkie @SusieQQQ @Chancy please advise.

[OldUser 5,053]

@quesquesquesques did you work for that employer at all? If yes, mention it (even if it was few hours or one day). If you only interviewed but never worked for them / never started employment, I wouldn't include it. At least that's what I would do.

[pushbrk 12,220]

22 minutes ago, OldUser said:

@quesquesquesques did you work for that employer at all? If yes, mention it (even if it was few hours or one day). If you only interviewed but never worked for them / never started employment, I wouldn't include it. At least that's what I would do.

Correct.  It's employment history, nothing  more, nothing less.

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

Agree with above 

[quesquesquesques 1]

38 minutes ago, OldUser said:

@quesquesquesques did you work for that employer at all? If yes, mention it (even if it was few hours or one day). If you only interviewed but never worked for them / never started employment, I wouldn't include it. At least that's what I would do.

Accepted job offer, signed all on-boarding paperwork including I-9 however reneged 10 days before start date. Hence, never worked there even for a minute.

 

16 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Correct.  It's employment history, nothing  more, nothing less.

Gotcha. So filling I-9 is immaterial from job history perspective then since I never started the job at all? Thanks!

[OldUser 5,053]

@quesquesquesques In your case I would not list it in your employment history. The worst case, if ever asked by IO (very low probability), give them the same explanation you're given here and I'm sure it will be enough.

[Mike E 11,725]

 

1 hour ago, quesquesquesques said:

If one reneged after filling and signing I-9 but later reneged and never started/worked at the job, does this need to be reported in job history? I am very worried that since I-9 was filed DHS/government's record may indicate that one had omitted a job from their job history and it could cause problems during their naturalization? Please advise. Thanks!

 Until your question, my understanding was that only people who started working could be compelled to fill out I-9.  I’ve never been compelled to complete I-9 until the day I was added to the payroll. However,

 

 https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/i-9instr.pdf says:

 

“You, the employee, must complete each field in Section 1 as described below. Newly hired employees must complete and sign Section 1 no later than the first day of employment. Section 1 should never be completed before you have accepted a job offer.”

 

Therefore it is possible you did not work for an employer where you filled out I-9. 
 

Keep it simple: if you filled out I-9, and

 

1. reneged on your job offer, and 

 

2. we’re not paid for that employer

 

then you did not work for that employer, and you can rest easy.  
 

Still any employer that forces an employee to fill out I-9 before the employee is added to the payroll is playing with fire and putting itself at risk to a discrimination lawsuit in the event the employer cancels the offer because it rejects the I-9. But I digress.  
 

Again, rest easy.  

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by Mike E

[quesquesquesques 1]

I know that certain crimes/misdemeanours can result in revocation of green card and denial of N-400. These crimes are called "Crimes Involving Moral Turpitude" (CIMT). However, I am curious if aside from conviction for a CIMT, can general behaviour that can be considered "immoral" result in green card revocation or citizenship denial?

Edited October 16, 2022 by quesquesquesques

[quesquesquesques 1]

@pushbrk @Mike E @OldUser @SusieQQQ @JFH @Chancy please advise

Edited October 16, 2022 by quesquesquesques

[JeanneAdil 6,239]

From Immigrant Legal Resource Center | ILRC |

 

06/22/2021

Crimes

 

Removal Defense

 

Family-Based

 

U Visa/T Visa/VAWA

A conviction of a crime involving moral turpitude (CIMT) may or may not hurt an immigrant, depending on a number of factors set out in the Immigration and Nationality Act:  the number of CIMT convictions, the potential and actual sentence, when the person committed or was convicted of the offense, and the person’s immigration situation. A single CIMT conviction might cause no damage, or it might cause a variety of penalties ranging from deportability to ineligibility for relief to mandatory detention.

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

1 hour ago, quesquesquesques said:

@pushbrk @Mike E @OldUser @SusieQQQ @JFH @Chancy please advise

Seeing as you tagged me 

 

Question is too vague 

 

what did you do that you’re worried about?

[Mike E 11,725]

2 hours ago, quesquesquesques said:

I know that certain crimes/misdemeanours can result in revocation of green card and denial of N-400. These crimes are called "Crimes Involving Moral Turpitude" (CIMT). However, I am curious if aside from conviction for a CIMT, can general behaviour that can be considered "immoral" result in green card revocation or citizenship denial?

Yep. Example: being a prostitute or hiring a prostitute where prostitution is legal breaks good moral character. 

[Family 3,549]

Definitely not a deportable offense and probably very rarely used to deny N-400 for lack of GMC…

Cheating on one's spouse may be seen as evidence of bad moral character.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-extramarital-affair-really-disqualify-you-from-naturalization.html

 

[beloved_dingo 1,939]

Not paying child support is one such thing that can cause issues with citizenship.