Why do we have to put proof of communication by email or telephone in the I-129f?

[Genzo10 16]

Why do we have to put proof of communication by email or telephone in the I-129f application, because we transmit our email and telephone number in the application and DS-160, they can verify the proof of communication by themselves. It would be easier and less papers.

 

Thank you

[Rocio0010 5,579]

3 minutes ago, Genzo10 said:

hey can verify the proof of communication by themselves.

how would they do that if they don't have access to your email?

[Genzo10 16]

7 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

how would they do that if they don't have access to your email?

 

I read they have access thats why they ask all emails and social media ect...

[Rocio0010 5,579]

Just now, Genzo10 said:

 

I read they have access thats why they ask all emails and social media ect...

I doubt it's even legal they can access your email without a search warrant. But even so, do you really think that they'd try and figure out your relationship from there? No, it's your job to provide them with the evidence....

[mushroomspore 3,044]

10 minutes ago, Genzo10 said:

 

I read they have access thats why they ask all emails and social media ect...

Where did you read that? How would they have access? They are law enforcement, which means they have to ask a judge for permission (aka, a search warrant). Also, you can delete things from social media. Law enforcement cannot know exactly what was deleted just by looking through your phone or computer. They have to get a warrant and then go directly to the social media companies to request the deleted data, which can take a long time.

Edited May 4, 2022 by mushroomspore

[Crazy Cat 41,979]

16 minutes ago, Genzo10 said:

 

I read they have access thats why they ask all emails and social media ect...

It doesn't work like that.

[Crazy Cat 41,979]

1 hour ago, Genzo10 said:

 

I read they have access thats why they ask all emails and social media ect...

I don't know where you are getting your info, but I would stick with Visa Journey......

Edited May 4, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Genzo10 16]

11 minutes ago, mushroomspore said:

Where did you read that? How would they have access? They are law enforcement, which means they have to ask a judge for permission (aka, a search warrant). Also, you can delete things from social media. Law enforcement cannot know exactly what was deleted just by looking through your phone or computer. They have to get a warrant and then go directly to the social media companies to request the deleted data, which can take a long time.

 

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I don't know where you are getting your info, but I would stick with Visa Journey......what you read is way, way out in left field.....and inaccurate.

 

Sorry maybe i did not understand well, i saw an article like few months ago where they ask now phone numbers and emails and social media.

 

 

[Crazy Cat 41,979]

1 minute ago, Genzo10 said:

 

 

Sorry maybe i did not understand well, i saw an article like few months ago where they ask now phone numbers and emails and social media.

 

 

Some of that is true...but it doesn't mean they look for communication between you and a fiance.  

Edited May 4, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Family 4,025]

Well….OP is not too far off track as far as assuming “ could “ scenario, for those who are aware of what Edward Snowden’s job in Hawaii entailed….but those resources are thankfully not in the hands of USCIS. LOL! 

[carmel34 3,639]

41 minutes ago, Genzo10 said:

Why do we have to put proof of communication by email or telephone in the I-129f application, because we transmit our email and telephone number in the application and DS-160, they can verify the proof of communication by themselves. It would be easier and less papers.

 

Thank you

Proof of communication is not required for an I-129F, only evidence of meeting in person (original boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel receipts, a few photos) at least once in the two years prior to filing the petition is needed, plus required civil documents.  For some high-fraud countries, documents to show communication may be helpful, but even then, a few, representative messages or a list of emails sent/received or a phone call log record is all that is needed.

[JeanneAdil 6,549]

read what immigration attorneys say about the social media info needed on ds 160 or ds 260

 

https://www.kolkocasey.com/immigration-and-firm-news/social-media-ds-160-and-ds-260

 

u don't have to disclose ur password 

but many visa shoppers use multi media to search for possible prey to sponsor them (like being on multiple dating sites,   or having an abundance of foreign friends for marriage possibilities)

 

u don't need to be a specialist to read twitter posts /they are not encrypted 

or to see a list of friends on Facebook unless  u  block the feature (and that would raise concerns so don't try it)

 

Whatsapp and Facebook messages are  encrypted

 

Basically it also serves like passing a law that says "no hand held cell phone while driving"   no police officer is out riding around checking for this but if u have an accident,  this law can be used to deny an insurance claim if u r texting or talking on one

 

and if u are granted a visa in the US ,  and then they find out u have misused the visa  ,  they can go into the social media and use it to prove marriage fraud ,  or someone on a B2 is working in the US

 

If u ever watch border security posts on youtube,  the officers (especially in UK and Canada) check cell phones to make sure the person is coming into the country legally and CO's at embassy have asked a person to open a cell and show them messages and contacts

 

And be happy its not the DS 5535 as there u have to give cell #'s of all family members too

 

However, this addition to Forms DS-160 and DS-260 is a good reminder that applicants seeking immigrant and nonimmigrant visas can safely assume that the U.S Department of State is carefully reviewing their social media presences to verify that the information disclosed on those applications and during consular interviews is truthful.

[JeanneAdil 6,549]

i should add 

u are looking for less paperwork for a government that depends on paper trails 

 

 

Paper-trail definition

A series of documents providing evidence of one's actions. (idiomatic) A written record, history, or collection of evidence

[Rocio0010 5,579]

6 hours ago, Genzo10 said:

less papers.

Oh boy, if you think that there is too much paper involved at this stage, wait until you have to file for adjustment of status or removal of conditions in a couple of years!

But again, they can only access your email with a search warrant. And to be honest with you, if you thought they’d access your email to look for proof of relationship, no, that’s not how this works. YOU have to prove them your relationship. They don’t have to look for the evidence.

[MarJhi 963]

12 hours ago, Genzo10 said:

Why do we have to put proof of communication by email or telephone in the I-129f application, because we transmit our email and telephone number in the application and DS-160, they can verify the proof of communication by themselves. It would be easier and less papers.

 

Thank you

Well this makes total sense if you don't mind adding a few more years to the process. 😉