Just sharing a thought.

[Allaboutwaiting 2,500]

Captain's Log, Stardate 01032022.

 

After quite a few years going through more than one immigration process one gets truly familiar with the trials and tribulations of this journey, but sometimes it is so amazingly contrived and flawed that one can feel as if dragged into a quasi-kafkian plot.

 

 

[TBoneTX 43,133]

Yes, and it is what it is.  We must rise to the challenge.  When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

[TBoneTX 43,133]

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[JeanneAdil 6,206]

13 hours ago, Allaboutwaiting said:

Captain's Log, Stardate 01032022.

 

After quite a few years going through more than one immigration process one gets truly familiar with the trials and tribulations of this journey, but sometimes it is so amazingly contrived and flawed that one can feel as if dragged into a quasi-kafkian plot.

 

 

Many things we do in US are contrived or just plane controlled so by our government that we are forced into hiring a lawyer to get help (and that sometimes is fruitless)

Try settling a claim on your own to SS disability or from a car accident that u are the victim

 

but immigration needs Congress to really do an investigation (they have known illegal immigration is a problem now for 20 or 30 years and take no news steps to combat the problem forcing all the presidents now and former to make rules)

Congress needs to form a committee to study illegal and legal immigration 

anyway ,  sorry i vetted too much 

[Nat&Amy 623]

The US immigration system needs reform asap. But who's willing to go there and do the work that needs to be done? Make the laws strict and enforce them (even if it means deporting people and potentially breaking families apart) and there will be backlash. Don't, and allow illegal immigrants to have access to benefits amount other things, and there will be backlash too.

 

The fact that a couple pursuing a spousal visa gets stranded in different countries for almost two years whereas others decide they "can't wait" and enter the country on a nonimmigrant visa, "suddenly decide" they don't want to return home and get to legally adjust status instead, waiting for their GC with their spouses the entire time, is to me proof that the system is broken at best. 

[millefleur 5,037]

40 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

The US immigration system needs reform asap. But who's willing to go there and do the work that needs to be done?

Another reality is the lack of political will from the masses to actually reform immigration. Most Americans have zero clue about USCIS and how it actually works, so they have no idea of the problems and what to even vote for change on. How can we expect reform to make it to Capitol Hill if the vast majority of people aren't even aware of the problems?

 

In my experience, most Americans just assume if you're married to an American, you get US citizenship automatically like it's an overnight thing. The topic of legal immigration is hardly discussed and so few know anything about it. I vaguely remember H1B's being discussed in the news for a while but that was it. Congress is only going to care about this issue if large swaths of the population start caring about it, and how to make that happen? I don't know. Immigration law is a boring topic, it requires research and reading, I don't see it becoming a popular point of interest for most people anytime soon.

[TBoneTX 43,133]

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[African Zealot 1,452]

As an immigrant I find it quite interesting when Americans are griping about their immigration system. It is almost inevitable that US immigration is bogged down, it is the #1 destination for immigrants of all stripes and contrary to the narrative being forwarded is extremely accommodating of immigrants.

 

With most countries you can’t petition for anyone aside from your spouse and children. Yes the US immigration system needs work however be grateful for what you have while working for change. Many immigrants have managed to chain migrate their brothers and sisters and parents etc to the great Ole country which would have a zero chance of happening anywhere.

 

Go USA 🇺🇸!!!

 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,206]

1 hour ago, millefleur said:

Another reality is the lack of political will from the masses to actually reform immigration. Most Americans have zero clue about USCIS and how it actually works, so they have no idea of the problems and what to even vote for change on. How can we expect reform to make it to Capitol Hill if the vast majority of people aren't even aware of the problems?

 

In my experience, most Americans just assume if you're married to an American, you get US citizenship automatically like it's an overnight thing. The topic of legal immigration is hardly discussed and so few know anything about it. I vaguely remember H1B's being discussed in the news for a while but that was it. Congress is only going to care about this issue if large swaths of the population start caring about it, and how to make that happen? I don't know. Immigration law is a boring topic, it requires research and reading, I don't see it becoming a popular point of interest for most people anytime soon.

So true 

My neighbor applied (2000) for his Philippine wife and 3  kids to come and i was shocked it took a year

that was my 1st ever exposure to immigration 

 

and i knew nothing about the DV lottery / that was a real eye opener

Learning that they give green cards to countries that they big deem terrorists training countries blows my mind when women of a country aren't allowed a decent education or learn English so the winners are young men (think about that one) 

and look at list of countries allowed to apply 

A good example of applicants and outcome is from 2017 results

https://dvlottery.me/win-chances-green-card-lottery

Edited January 4, 2022 by JeanneAdil

[African Zealot 1,452]

Just now, JeanneAdil said:

So true 

My neighbor applied (2000) for his Philippine wife and children and 3  kids to come and i was shocked it took a year

that was my 1st ever exposure to immigration 

 

and i knew nothing about the DV lottery / that was a real eye opener

Learning that they give green cards to countries that they big deem terrorists training countries blows my mind when women of a country aren't allowed a decent education or learn English so the winners are young men (think about that one) 

and look at list of countries allowed to apply 

A good example of applicants and outcome is from 2017 results

https://dvlottery.me/win-chances-green-card-lottery

You need to understand why we have a lottery system and you wouldn’t be saying what you are saying.

 

Its name gives you a clue, it’s for diversity so it’s serving it’s purpose very well in my opinion.

[.yana 586]

DV lottery in itself is insane to me: I don't know of any other country with such program. Merit-based or family-based immigration makes sense to me, but a simple lottery does not. 

[millefleur 5,037]

1 minute ago, .yana said:

DV lottery in itself is insane to me: I don't know of any other country with such program. Merit-based or family-based immigration makes sense to me, but a simple lottery does not. 

I also think it's a bit overly generous. It also excludes people who are "over-represented" here, like Mexicans, despite many of them having family or actual connections to the US but no real way to immigrate. So, just by nature of you being born in X country you end up lucky and get a chance? Obviously those who benefit from the DV system will praise it, and those who are shut out from it will feel it is unfair. And then the chance to be selected numbers seem all over the map as well. If you're from Fiji, you have a 7% chance but if you're from a sub-Saharan African country the chance drops to lower than 1%. I don't really get the logic behind this, other than I guess Fiji is more "exotic" and rare, so hey, let's give Fijians a higher chance?

 

I do know people who won the DV lottery and had nothing but praise for it and came over to he US and brought their whole family, and that's probably a good thing for our demographics. I don't think it's without criticism though.

[JeanneAdil 6,206]

1 minute ago, African Zealot said:

You need to understand why we have a lottery system and you wouldn’t be saying what you are saying.

 

Its name gives you a clue, it’s for diversity so it’s serving it’s purpose very well in my opinion.

i am saying as an American "i knew nothing about dv lottery till i started my husband's process"

and i was still naive as i thought he couldn't apply for the DV lottery while we were doing the K1 or CR1

 

and US gives CR1 people a hard time as in our case (6 years)  but if he had won DV lottery he could have come a lot faster 

this doesn't make sense 

 

and my grandparents are from Finland ,  Scotland ,  Germany and an Iroquois Indian /  and i grew up in a Finnish community surrounded by Italians and i understand diversity 

i am saying if a country is deemed a high terrorists threat  so much so they say No tourist visas for the country (i am thinking of one in particular that the internet says no tourist visas will be given  but they are still allowed a business visa or dv lottery 

[African Zealot 1,452]

6 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

i am saying as an American "i knew nothing about dv lottery till i started my husband's process"

and i was still naive as i thought he couldn't apply for the DV lottery while we were doing the K1 or CR1

 

and US gives CR1 people a hard time as in our case (6 years)  but if he had won DV lottery he could have come a lot faster 

this doesn't make sense 

 

and my grandparents are from Finland ,  Scotland ,  Germany and an Iroquois Indian /  and i grew up in a Finnish community surrounded by Italians and i understand diversity 

i am saying if a country is deemed a high terrorists threat  so much so they say No tourist visas for the country (i am thinking of one in particular that the internet says no tourist visas will be given  but they are still allowed a business visa or dv lottery 

Yes because immigrant visas are scrutinized thoroughly while visitor visas are not, so I can understand why a visitor visa will be summarily denied while an immigrant visa would be issued after scrutiny.

 

Regarding business visas, America is about greed and commerce so don’t be surprised they are accommodating of business visas. It may be counterintuitive however I can understand it.

 

In any case where did you get the information that for a particular country business visas issued while visitor visas are not? I am just curious about the info and source.

Edited January 4, 2022 by African Zealot

[JeanneAdil 6,206]

3 minutes ago, African Zealot said:

Yes because immigrant visas are scrutinized thoroughly while visitor visas are not, so I can understand why a visitor visa will be summarily denied while an immigrant visa would be issued after scrutiny.

 

Regarding business visas, America is about greed and commerce so don’t be surprised they are accommodating of business visas. It may be counterintuitive however I can understand it.

 

In any case where did you get the information that for a particular country business visas issued while visitor visas are not? I am just curious about the info and source.

it was a pop up that came when i was searching 

plus i routinely check the visa stats for approved visas per month and visa class and embassy

 

It may be because of covid restrictions now but it actually said "Most visitors from xxxx will not be allowed to travel to USA"