9 Antivax lies to watch out for this holiday season

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,333]

2 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Wow, thanks.  That really means something as we know I'm a couple of years older than you.

 

Guess I came from a family with good genes.

No way . Really. I honestly did not know that.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

6 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I wasn't aware a FDA approved version was available to the public.

This ol argument again

 

6 hours ago, jg121783 said:

 

Taking the vaccine does not mean you reduce the risk of spreading covid.

yes it does, it doesn't mean you eliminate it

[Neonred 3,461]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

No way . Really. I honestly did not know that.

I graduated high school 4 years before you.  Now, I was the youngest in my class by a few months and we don't know how many times you were "held back" along the way...LOL.

 

Just sayin

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

4 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I called my local  Walgreens. They do have the one with the different label on it. Would you like me to make you am appointment 

I might wait for the Kirkland Brand version.  It will likely come in a megapack so I can vaccinate the entire neighborhood .

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

30 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Dear god my man just say it.  I am officially an old fart now. 1.5 years to the first level of SS.

 

You know right before I saw this I was thinking.  Old is cool other than my check engine light coming on. Lol 

 

I care zero what anyone thinks anymore. 

Weight.. don't care

Lack of Written grammar skills. Zero heck given

Don't like me. Also zero hecks given

 

Don't like my plaid pants and white belt also zero heck given.

 

Just for the record I have never seen a picture of Yuna or been told her age. Just guessing from her post

 

 

Etc etc etc and on and on.

 

I think I got the picture.

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,333]

8 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

 

I think I got the picture.

 

I may regret this but like I said. Zero hecks given

 

 

[laylalex 7,263]

23 hours ago, jg121783 said:

If you are referring to my comment that is not at all what I said. I was referring to government officials and healthcare workers who are pushing well meaning but misinformed parents (presumably such as yourself) to give their young children the covid shot when the benefit doesn't even come close to outweighing the risk. The ones that my comment really applies to are the officials who are trying to mandate the shot for children.

I'm sorry to correct you but that is not what you said at all. You said 

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Anyone who pushes this shot on children is mentally ill and criminally negligent in my opinion. 

I am an anyone. So is my husband, his ex-wife and her fiancé. You didn't speak about mandates or government officials of healthcare workers. You said "anyone." As @Nature Boy 2.0 says, werds mean things. 

 

I also do not consider myself misinformed, nor are the healthcare professionals we consulted, one of whom is my own mother who has been a practicing PCP for over 30 years. No one "pushed" us. We spoke with professionals who know our child (my mother included) and we have discussed pros and cons openly and frankly. I at least entered these discussions with an open mind, which is what I try to do in most things. (Still hate pineapple on pizza, no open mind about that.) If the data changes, we will adjust our outlook accordingly. 

 

It serves no one to make sweeping generalizations about people's motivations for getting or not getting vaccinated. That goes for people who refuse vaccination as much as for those who embrace it. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,333]

11 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I may regret this but like I said. Zero hecks given

 

 

by the way I wasn't smiling. I was grimacing trying to hold my gut in 

[laylalex 7,263]

14 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So even after vaxxed she can still spread it, so does she understand that getting the vaccine will not change that?

Yes, she does. We all do. We're not morons. However, the risk of contracting COVID after vaccination and transmission of the virus is significantly lower than if a person is unvaccinated. There's some useful data in this article from last month's New Scientist: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

 

We want to mitigate risks and we want her to be able to interact with her grandparents who are fully vaccinated and in their 70s. (My husband cannot stand his ex-in-laws but wants her to be part of that family anyway.) We aren't so worried about having her see my husband's mum, who's still only in her 50s and in great health and vaccinated. So we weigh risks, and so do the awful in-laws. There is no perfect here. That's kind of in the nature of viruses and vaccinations. But there are very good but informed about risks ways of approaching life. We do that all the time in so many other areas of life.  

[laylalex 7,263]

I just want to say that all your talk of being old farts means I am now getting ads like this: 

 

I also got one that I will not post a pic of that is for a very intimate massage tool for men.  

 

(Note: I am interested in the Net-a-Porter stuff to the right.)

[yuna628 9,547]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Dear god my man just say it.  I am officially an old fart now. 1.5 years to the first level of SS.

 

You know right before I saw this I was thinking.  Old is cool other than my check engine light coming on. Lol 

 

I care zero what anyone thinks anymore. 

Weight.. don't care

Lack of Written grammar skills. Zero heck given

Don't like me. Also zero hecks given

 

Don't like my plaid pants and white belt also zero heck given.

 

Just for the record I have never seen a picture of Yuna or been told her age. Just guessing from her post

 

 

Etc etc etc and on and on.

Well technically you have seen me. My avatar is a favorite from our wedding photos, but you cannot tell much about me from that.

1 hour ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

I might wait for the Kirkland Brand version.  It will likely come in a megapack so I can vaccinate the entire neighborhood .

I just booked myself the superboost extravaganza magical pew pew for next week. May the power of Pfizer flow through us all.

 

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I may regret this but like I said. Zero hecks given

 

 

Aww very sweet! I'm too shy to post closeups I'm afraid.

[TBoneTX 43,476]

5 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I care zero what anyone thinks anymore. 

Weight.. don't care

Lack of Written grammar skills. Zero heck given

Don't like me. Also zero hecks given

And rhododendron status?   

[Dashinka 23,395]

9 hours ago, laylalex said:

Yes, she does. We all do. We're not morons. However, the risk of contracting COVID after vaccination and transmission of the virus is significantly lower than if a person is unvaccinated. There's some useful data in this article from last month's New Scientist: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

 

We want to mitigate risks and we want her to be able to interact with her grandparents who are fully vaccinated and in their 70s. (My husband cannot stand his ex-in-laws but wants her to be part of that family anyway.) We aren't so worried about having her see my husband's mum, who's still only in her 50s and in great health and vaccinated. So we weigh risks, and so do the awful in-laws. There is no perfect here. That's kind of in the nature of viruses and vaccinations. But there are very good but informed about risks ways of approaching life. We do that all the time in so many other areas of life.  

Interesting study, I wonder if the authors will go back and revise this study based on the case numbers in the Netherlands since mid-September?

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,333]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Interesting study, I wonder if the authors will go back and revise this study based on the case numbers in the Netherlands since mid-September?

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

Data without causation is useless. The biggest spike is among unvaccinated kids. Also over 70% of  people required intensive care are unvaccinated.  The Netherlands has a very very low booster rate.

 

If 85% of the population is vaccinated and 70% in intensive care are unvaccinated I would say the shot is helping.  

[Dashinka 23,395]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Data without causation is useless. The biggest spike is among unvaccinated kids. Also over 70% of  people required intensive care are unvaccinated.  The Netherlands has a very very low booster rate.

 

If 85% of the population is vaccinated and 70% in intensive care are unvaccinated I would say the shot is helping.  

Not really sure where you are getting all the information as to The Netherlands.  Do you have a link to back up all the numbers?  Regardless, that was my point, the study I was referencing from the other post left out a lot of confounding variables and seemed to conclude the vaccine was working.  Of course that was when the cases in the Netherlands were at their lowest in months and the overall vaccine rate was greater than 75%, 30-60 days later the Netherlands is having its worst spike since this whole thing began, so clearly there is spread going on with those vaccinated.