Too little too late: The story of how Florida shattered the country's single-day COVID record

[TBoneTX 43,060]

6 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

sounds like a tbone question.........

What did the painter say to the wall?

"One more crack like that, and I'll plaster you!"

6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Sounded like a tbone joke 

Plagiarism!!!  Reported!!!!!!!

[OriZ 3,157]

16 hours ago, yuna628 said:

It's exhausting. I had a long chat with my usually cheerful doctor today. Could tell he was terribly melancholy despite his best attempts.. Can't stress enough how much this stuff gets to the people that are on the front lines desperately trying to pull people through it, keep them alive, and still lose so many patients in the most horrific ways.

I personally know an RN supervisor, basically oversees the whole hospital with this, while she does say she's never seen tubes clogged like this before, she definitely isn't in a panic about it, and doesn't believe in wearing a mask at the store. She doesn't take her kids to target very often anymore only because she doesn't want silly comments by prejudiced people over her not making them wear a mask.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

47 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I personally know an RN supervisor, basically oversees the whole hospital with this, while she does say she's never seen tubes clogged like this before, she definitely isn't in a panic about it, and doesn't believe in wearing a mask at the store. She doesn't take her kids to target very often anymore only because she doesn't want silly comments by prejudiced people over her not making them wear a mask.

Very easily distinguishable demographic as well.

Edited July 25, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, OriZ said:

I personally know an RN supervisor, basically oversees the whole hospital with this, while she does say she's never seen tubes clogged like this before, she definitely isn't in a panic about it, and doesn't believe in wearing a mask at the store. She doesn't take her kids to target very often anymore only because she doesn't want silly comments by prejudiced people over her not making them wear a mask.

Prior to covid, I probably didn't normally get within 10 feet of people in public unless I was in a long line.  6 feet is a made up number, just like "wear a mask for others" is a made-up phrase.  39 years of dealing with an HIV pandemic, and we never shut down a damn thing when 900,000+ people die annually.  It's really no different than #BLM and rioting over one criminal's death when so many blacks are killed every day.

#politics

 

(not quoting you to say anything about your post, just clicked the button cuz I figured you were safer to quote than some are.  Hope you enjoy the vacation.  I hear overseas locations are wide open, with little waiting in lines.  Best time EVER to travel, happy for you both.)

[laylalex 7,247]

Well, there is kind of a difference between how HIV spreads and how the coronavirus spreads unless you're doing something you don't want to talk about freely on here.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

3 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Well, there is kind of a difference between how HIV spreads and how the coronavirus spreads unless you're doing something you don't want to talk about freely on here.

must be one heck of a sneeze........

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Well, there is kind of a difference between how HIV spreads and how the coronavirus spreads unless you're doing something you don't want to talk about freely on here.

You focus on spread, and ignore the nearly one million dead annually for 39 years if that helps you sleep better.  Personally, I worry not about either pandemic, even though the newer one is more of a risk for me.  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

8 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Prior to covid, I probably didn't normally get within 10 feet of people in public unless I was in a long line.  6 feet is a made up number, just like "wear a mask for others" is a made-up phrase.  39 years of dealing with an HIV pandemic, and we never shut down a damn thing when 900,000+ people die annually.  It's really no different than #BLM and rioting over one criminal's death when so many blacks are killed every day.

#politics

 

(not quoting you to say anything about your post, just clicked the button cuz I figured you were safer to quote than some are.  Hope you enjoy the vacation.  I hear overseas locations are wide open, with little waiting in lines.  Best time EVER to travel, happy for you both.)

Aids is a totally diffrent animal. The things done to flatten the curve for corona would have zero effect on the spread of aids.  As I am sure you know you cant catch aids from casual contact 

 

 

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/transmission.html#how-is-HIV-passed

You can get or transmit HIV only through specific activities. Most commonly, people get or transmit HIV through sexual behaviors and needle or syringe use.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

10 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Well, there is kind of a difference between how HIV spreads and how the coronavirus spreads unless you're doing something you don't want to talk about freely on here.

I know right. LOL I dont think I could catch aids from sitting near you on an Airplane, unless I was really lucky. 

[laylalex 7,247]

2 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

You focus on spread, and ignore the nearly one million dead annually for 39 years if that helps you sleep better.  Personally, I worry not about either pandemic, even though the newer one is more of a risk for me.  

Please don't stick words in my mouth. We know what to do to prevent the transmission of HIV, and I certainly have never ignored it. I have been careful in my own past, because I knew the risks and I knew how to limit them effectively. With COVID19, we think we know what we can do to limit transmission -- social distancing, face coverings, cleanliness -- but we don't know how to stop it as well as we do with HIV. While we may have no vaccine for HIV, we do have a variety of drugs that can make life not only bearable for those infected, they can live largely asymptomatic lives. 

 

Apples and oranges. 

1 minute ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I know right. LOL I dont think I could catch aids from sitting near you on an Airplane, unless I was really lucky. 

Dream big!

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I know right. LOL I dont think I could catch aids from sitting near you on an Airplane, unless I was really lucky. 

what happens at 35,000 feet stays at 35,000 feet........

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

9 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Please don't stick words in my mouth. We know what to do to prevent the transmission of HIV, and I certainly have never ignored it. I have been careful in my own past, because I knew the risks and I knew how to limit them effectively. With COVID19, we think we know what we can do to limit transmission -- social distancing, face coverings, cleanliness -- but we don't know how to stop it as well as we do with HIV. While we may have no vaccine for HIV, we do have a variety of drugs that can make life not only bearable for those infected, they can live largely asymptomatic lives. 

I'm sure in 39 years, or even in two years, we will know better what to do to minimize covid as well.

 

As for the bold part... even with that, we still lose almost 1 million people annually.  And as I said, we have never shut down one single economy because of it.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

11 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

You focus on spread, and ignore the nearly one million dead annually for 39 years if that helps you sleep better.  Personally, I worry not about either pandemic, even though the newer one is more of a risk for me.  

What if I told you its quite possible to care about both.

 

I think that might be a fallacy of relevance 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

4 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I'm sure in 39 years, or even in two years, we will know better what to do to minimize covid as well.

 

As for the bold part... even with that, we still lose almost 1 million people annually.  And as I said, we have never shut down one single economy because of it.

What I guess if you shut down every gay bathhouse in America it might affect the spread of Aids.

 

Social distancing would for sure stop it.

[laylalex 7,247]

4 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I'm sure in 39 years, or even in two years, we will know better what to do to minimize covid as well.

 

As for the bold part... even with that, we still lose almost 1 million people annually.  And as I said, we have never shut down one single economy because of it.

Because we didn't need to shut down anything to prevent HIV transmission? Because the 1million stat is worldwide? Because we don't have 4 million (and counting) new cases of HIV in this country every year? Because the AIDS epidemic was slow to spread in the beginning and limited to certain portions of society? 

 

COVID19 doesn't care if you shoot up or engage in unsafe sex. You can't get HIV from going to church unless you're doing something in the undercroft with an infected parishioner or pastor or whatever. 

 

I sort of can't believe I have to type this stuff, and I prefer to think that you're just messing with me because it's less upsetting to me.