“Living undocumented “ on Netflix

[RedroseMT 37]

Out of curiosity, have you watched this on Netflix and what are your thoughts about that ? 

[Hank_ 9,173]

Laws are on the books .. it is time they be enforced

[Boris Farage 353]

If the narrative is to put a face to the crime, I will pass. They are criminals, this is all I need to know.

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7 hours ago, RedroseMT said:

Out of curiosity, have you watched this on Netflix and what are your thoughts about that ? 

I've begun watching it.  In my opinion, it's very skewed focusing on only the persons undocumented and their own/own family's point-of-view.  It would be nice if it were more well-rounded and not seemingly only one agenda.

 

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1 hour ago, Going through said:

I've begun watching it.  In my opinion, it's very skewed focusing on only the persons undocumented and their own/own family's point-of-view.  It would be nice if it were more well-rounded and not seemingly only one agenda.

 

Perhaps there ought to be a Netflix series detailing the lives of people who can't find a job because criminals are filling them.

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On 10/4/2019 at 3:34 PM, Boris Farage said:

Perhaps there ought to be a Netflix series detailing the lives of people who can't find a job because criminals are filling them.

LOL, huh?  Unemployment is at record lows.  Literally every labor sector is hiring in droves. If you feel bitter because you can't get the type of job an undocumented person can get, that is pretty sad.

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On 10/4/2019 at 3:34 PM, Boris Farage said:

Perhaps there ought to be a Netflix series detailing the lives of people who can't find a job because criminals are filling them.

Do you really want the job that an undocumented alien has? If a company is hiring illegal aliens, I wouldn’t want to work there. Heck knows what other labor laws they are breaking. Are they paying below minimum wage? Are they adhering to safety rules? Are the employees getting the legally mandated rest periods?

 

 

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On 10/4/2019 at 6:34 PM, Boris Farage said:

Perhaps there ought to be a Netflix series detailing the lives of people who can't find a job because criminals are filling them.

 

I think most of the jobs filled by undocumented people are the types of jobs most USCs and LPRs wouldn't dream of wanting to do.  

Under-the-table-employment usually equals no benefits, minimum (or sometimes less than minimum) wage, longer hours, harder labour, not the greatest working conditions, no rights by the employee, etc.

 

That's not to say there aren't USCs and LPRs going through some of those same conditions...what I mean to say, is that those working illegally get far more taken advantage of BECAUSE they are working illegally...employers know they can take full advantage however they want to without any real recourse---employees know they have no real power in fighting whatever the employer wants, because they need the money to survive and cannot report unfair working conditions to anyone else due to fear of being found out as an illegal.

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Going through said:

 

I think most of the jobs filled by undocumented people are the types of jobs most USCs and LPRs wouldn't dream of wanting to do.  

Under-the-table-employment usually equals no benefits, minimum (or sometimes less than minimum) wage, longer hours, harder labour, not the greatest working conditions, no rights by the employee, etc.

 

That's not to say there aren't USCs and LPRs going through some of those same conditions...what I mean to say, is that those working illegally get far more taken advantage of BECAUSE they are working illegally...employers know they can take full advantage however they want to without any real recourse---employees know they have no real power in fighting whatever the employer wants, because they need the money to survive and cannot report unfair working conditions to anyone else due to fear of being found out as an illegal.

 

 

 

 

That's a common narrative but not really true. Here in the South they take a lot of low skill jobs that end up paying them less than they would a USC. For instance in my area there are alot of chicken processing plants that illegals have jobs in. They have had raids in the chicken plants and a local gun manufacturer here that scared that community for a long time. 

They were paying around $10 an hour for those jobs that a USC would make at least $15 an hour for. 

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2 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

That's a common narrative but not really true. Here in the South they take a lot of low skill jobs that end up paying them less than they would a USC. For instance in my area there are alot of chicken processing plants that illegals have jobs in. They have had raids in the chicken plants and a local gun manufacturer here that scared that community for a long time. 

They were paying around $10 an hour for those jobs that a USC would make at least $15 an hour for. 

"That's a common narrative but not really true"----Isn't the bolded part of your comment along the same lines of what I said above?  Or are we saying the same thing but in a different way?

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5 hours ago, Going through said:

"That's a common narrative but not really true"----Isn't the bolded part of your comment along the same lines of what I said above?  Or are we saying the same thing but in a different way?

Same thing but a different way basically. I am saying that USCs will do the job especially in a area that is poor but the pay has to be commiserate with the job. 

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

I binged watched it this weekend.   It does make you feel a little bad for some of them but being one going through immigration not bad enough.  

 

The pregnant mother who was deported with her 3 year old son and just snuck back in the USA on top of a train risking her son, and unborn child's life blew my mind.   I have friends who sold everything and opened an orphanage in Honduras.  I know it may not be the most desired but not convinced it was bad enough to risk lives to get back.   I felt she was just determined to delver the baby here at all cost.  

 

There were two families who have lived and worked here (one who even bought a house) for over a decade.   I did feel bad for the family who fled their country due to death threats,  they were trying to make a better life but were hitting walls getting/keeping status.  They were  complying the entire time but were denied their asylum.   They weren't actually living undocumented.

 

The military wife I did not feel bad for.  I knew her story before the show it really sucked for her children but perhaps she was made to be an example for others.   Through the entire piece on her she was trying too hard and kept pushing military spouse and what he did for this country as if that is an excuse for breaking the law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

The military wife I did not feel bad for.  I knew her story before the show it really sucked for her children but perhaps she was made to be an example for others.   Through the entire piece on her she was trying too hard and kept pushing military spouse and what he did for this country as if that is an excuse for breaking the law.

Ah yes---the sense of entitlement was strong in that one.

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12 hours ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

 

Through the entire piece on her she was trying too hard and kept pushing military spouse and what he did for this country as if that is an excuse for breaking the law.

 

 I haven’t watched it but that story sounds familiar and was discussed here before, I think. She irritated me then. If a military person is quite happy to harbor an illegal that he shouldn’t be in the military. 

 

Her sense of entitlement was typical of military spouses. Interesting that you don’t see spouses of fire fighters and first responders with that attitude. And they put their lives on the line every day. 

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Another angle many miss. In a local county over 50% of the population in the 18-35 age range gets  some form of Govt means tested benefits. Yet every year they get  waivers to bring in 1000s of immigrants to pick and process the local fruit crops, because they have proven they cant get enough labor in the local market.

 

Why should tax payer money be used to support citizens but yet we have to bring in labor. Yes picking  fruit may not be an ideal job,  but we are incentivizing  people to not .

work. 

 

Let that belly get to rumbling. They will go to work