The world’s most dangerous countries for women 2018

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Ummm, it does happen to men as well.  Of course no one notices since men cannot be victims unless they choose another identity.

You're going to get a lot of push back on this Bill, but it's true. And the more successful you are, the more you have to worry about it. It's happened to me, fortunately there was no evidence (because it never happened!) and she wound up not only getting nothing, but losing her job. It's no coincidence that our wealthy and successful President has so many of these gold diggers coming out of the woods.

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6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Ummm, it does happen to men as well.  Of course no one notices since men cannot be victims unless they choose another identity.

On a positive note that is now an option.

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12 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I assume you are a man. Trust me, you do not know what is happening. Do you think the women around you tell you of every single daily humiliation or belittling or infantilization or condescension or invasion into their space? I doubt it. Women and girls get inured to it -- you almost forget these things happen because they happen every day. Every day. 

There are self-aware men of what is happening to the women around them. Not all of them have to be lumped into the same boat, even on the days when they seem frustratingly oblivious.

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Ummm, it does happen to men as well.  Of course no one notices since men cannot be victims unless they choose another identity.

Oh I'm also aware that men are often bullied by other men, or are sexually harassed by both genders. But this thread is about dangerous places for women to live. I'm very keenly aware of my surroundings at all times - and that means I'm aware of what not only goes on around in my personal space, but to others aswell. I'm protective of my husband like that too, just in case he should have an oblivious moment of his surroundings. Where he's from he's used to people being super friendly and not having ulterior motives.

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This is about the Top 10 places.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Boiler

[laylalex 7,246]

29 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Nothing deflates the "white privilege" windbag quite like the proof of success.
 

Those who go on about white privilege need to understand something: the world is what you make of it. In May, I put cash down on a 2019 BMW M5. (I promise, this is not a humble brag, but the basis of my point) I was able to do this because when the time came in my early life, I had a choice. I could become a wage slave, work in a cubicle, perhaps work my way up to middle management or even a director level before eventually retiring from corporate cog to drafty council housing pensioner. Or I could take charge, be a leader, work hard, pull myself up by my own boot straps, and control my own destiny. The latter is by far the riskiest, the most prone to reward, and of course the route I chose. And what a country to live in, where that option is open to every single living soul.

Oh but it's an unlevel playing field I hear from the entitled, the Ocasio-Cortez and the Sanders people. Well let's pull that thread a bit, shall we? When Washington faced Cornwallis on the literal field of battle, does history record General Washington demanding his opponent move off a few furlongs where the terrain was more favorable to his troops? It does not. This country has a rich history of overcoming obstacles and vanquishing odds. Music, professional sports, and the entertainment industry are all dominated by minorities who, like me, refused to be a cog or somebody's charity case. God love them for it. And even those who choose less lofty goals do fine as long as they're prepared to put in the minimal amount of work. One of our receptionists is, I believe, Indian or Pakistani. Walking through the offices, I come across darker shades of skin almost as often as the paler sort. I assume they are content with their life, and good on them for making the choice to be productive members of society.

Finally, gauging from the homeless population here in LA, the demographics seem roughly equal among the darker and lighter skinned sort. It seems ambition knows no skin tone, but neither does lack of ambition. Furthermore, many of these so-called homeless seem young and healthy, white, university age, and certainly have the money to have their hair professionally dreadlocked. I often wonder if at the end of a leisurely day of soliciting, they drive to the local dispensary and then to their parent's basement to indulge in smoking the fruits of their leisurely day in the sun.

So... hello there again! While I agree with your point that people need to work to succeed, and can't just expect success to fall into their laps because they want it, I don't think it's completely right to say that working hard is the only thing that will get you to achieving your dreams. Some people get a leg up that gives them a boost before they even start trying. This isn't to say that all white people have privilege, or no black people do, or any other minority (racial or otherwise) do. But the system is stacked in favor of some people -- people who come from family money, or people who were born in an area with great school districts, or people with really involved parents. For example, my ex-husband is someone who has done very nicely for himself in life. He is a company director, makes a ton of money, has several beautiful homes. I'm not saying he doesn't work hard, but he got to where he is because his father really did work hard -- working class guy who sacrificed everything (especially his relationship with his son and daughter when they were young) to build a successful business. And when my ex was old enough to join the firm, he did. Not as a trainee or intern, but with a seat at the boardroom table. He was 21 and I knew him back then -- he was pretty smart, but he wasn't a genius (only just got a 2:2 in Modern History, it was almost a third). But he didn't have to prove himself, not at the start at least. He had the space and time to fail repeatedly and learn from his failures without worrying he would be out of a job. And in time he learned to be good at what he did/does. I won't say he isn't, as least as far as I know. But it's just not the same as really starting from zero, like his dad did.

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22 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Well at least you have the opportunity of moving to Scotland.

True, but I'd rather not. I didn't do well the last time I tried living in the UK, which is why my ex ended up moving here on a K1.

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23 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So she would rather be taken captive by the "Jack Booted Thug Nazis" on the US side of the border.

Where does it say that in the article or the headline? I read the Reuters piece and didn't see that in there.

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20 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So it is an East and West coast thing?

No. Please don't put words in my mouth.

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2011 article.. but it does illustrates that the danger of  women is worldwide. but USA in top 10? i totally disagree.

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, laylalex said:

But the system is stacked in favor of some people

Always nice chatting with you Laylalex.

Here we go with "the system" again. As someone who has spent some time in England, you know, or should know, what a flexible and open "system" we have here in the States, compared to back home. If one cannot overcome the obstacles in this free and open society, they're not trying hard enough. For example, much as I loathe the man, your President Clinton (fortunately the one and only) came from nothing, graduated from an Ivy League school, and became president. I don't admire the man, but I do admire the work ethic.

 

9 minutes ago, laylalex said:

For example, my ex-husband is someone who has done very nicely for himself in life. He is a company director, makes a ton of money, has several beautiful homes. I'm not saying he doesn't work hard, but

It seems as if you're trying to spin your ex's accomplishments to support your own narrative. I'm sure your ex's father provided a foundation, but I've known too many trust fund brats who, given large sums of money, throw it all to the wind. He could have easily done that. But instead, he built on it and turned it into his own success, and provided (however briefly) a nice life for you. Money is not the source of success, it is the reward for success. Coming from means has its own challenges, and can often be a more difficult road than the child coming in with no expectations placed on him. Whatever support your ex took from his father, there were no doubt expectations and guidelines. There was also the temptation to rest on his laurels, live a life of luxury and provide no value to society. Instead, it seems he chose the harder road.

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

Thank you! I totally agree with you that being able to see metrics would have been useful, but again this is a viewpoint survey. It's about perception, and right now, the US is seen as falling down in areas it could do better in. You make a good point about the public health of women here, which is appalling. We don't have to be like this, but we are. 

 

I see that no one wants to engage with me on what I raised as the only woman (I think) posting in this thread about how very unsafe a woman can feel just by going out and being a woman in everyday life. Just last night I was at the supermarket and I was minding my own business, looking at cans of San Marzano tomatoes and as I reached up for one off the shelf, a man flicked my upper arm, just to get my attention. Didn't say, ma'am, excuse me. No, he touched me, and not just a little tap. He flicked a finger on me. Why? So I would look at him smirking, and I would know I am just an object to look at. Once I recovered from my shock, I spoke with security, but he had already left the store. As I said before, I'm no one special. Similar things have happened to me before, and will happen again, just as they will to other women. I'm not saying this is the same as rape at gunpoint, jesus, no. But what happened to me is normal in our society, and it just should not be. 

What makes you think it was a bad thing? Perhaps he was trying to help you reach an item on the top shelf, and touched you to get your attention?  What did he do after he touched you and looked at you?

 

My wife gets looked at every time she steps out the door.  Pretty people of both sexes (and all 69 genders) are gonna get that, it's a fact of life.  If you're prettier than average, you should be used to it by now.  

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4 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

What makes you think it was a bad thing? Perhaps he was trying to help you reach an item on the top shelf, and touched you to get your attention?  What did he do after he touched you and looked at you?

Seems like nowadays people are so quick to take offense. Occam's razor. It's more likely there is a much simpler, less nefarious explanation.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Well at least you have the opportunity of moving to Scotland.

where the women are safe and the sheep are afraid?  

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1 minute ago, Ban Hammer said:

where the women are safe and the sheep are afraid?  

Sounds more like Wales.

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Some of these posts/comments are so unnecessarily inflammatory.

 

Women have it better here in the U.S. than most other countries, though I feel we fail pretty hard in some pretty significant areas compared to other westernized countries. But just because we have it better than Somalia, doesn't mean you should ignore it when American women share their stories about harassment, abuse, rape, etc. 

 

And we most definitely fail our men as well. The suicide rate for young males is disturbing in itself.

 

This is not and should not be a contest between "which country is shittier to women" and "which gender has it worse". We need to be better about supporting those who have been victims (male or female) and try to work on those areas of our country that can and should be better - such as better/more accessible treatment for mental health issues, teaching consent at a young age, justice for victims (these 'slap on the wrist' sentences that people get for rape and abuse is absurd), etc etc. 

 

Also the number of untested rape kits just sitting around is just absolutely awful.