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1 hour ago, aleful said:

hi

 

she shouldn't go by what people say, sometimes it's worse, because she could come and stay illegally

 

no one knows, she should apply and take all the proof she has to show strong ties to her country

 

 

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I don't think it really matters either way. Yeah, as a USC she could try to adjust status (it[s fraud to enter with intent to do so!), but she could do the same as LPR, only with a slightly longer wait and possible overstay in the mean time.

If the CO is concerned about either of those happening, the visa won't be granted so I don't think the status is anything to focus on...all the other circumstances specific to them are what matters.

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6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

I don't think it really matters either way. Yeah, as a USC she could try to adjust status (it[s fraud to enter with intent to do so!), but she could do the same as LPR, only with a slightly longer wait and possible overstay in the mean time.

If the CO is concerned about either of those happening, the visa won't be granted so I don't think the status is anything to focus on...all the other circumstances specific to them are what matters.

Thank you for your reply.

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I think you case is 50/50, like everyone stated. It really could go either way, because she does have ties to Vietnam, however she also has ties to the US (you). And unfortunately as a Vietnamese, I have known other Vietnamese in the exact situation as you Mom (has multiple houses, lands, ...) and ended up overstayed the visa. They just transferred the deeds to their family members such as one of your sisters who still lives there. They pre-planned it, and once they had the visa, they did the transfer of houses. They always intended to do that anyways as a way to leave the inheritance to the family member.  I am in no way, shape, or form implying that is your plan. In fact, I believe you. However if I know those stories, certainly the people in the Consulate knows that too. 

 

Again, this is not to disappoint you, just prepare for reality. On the other side, it could be totally fine, and they will give her the visa, just like that! You only have the application fees to lose.

 

I am much like you, also came as an F-1 student originally. During the years my mom also tried to get a visitor visa to visit me, a total of 3 times. First two times were when I graduated from undergrad and graduate degrees. The last time, she actually was invited for a professional conference (she’s a dentist). She owed a house, my younger brother and her dad lived with her. She had her own dental office and was a shareholder in a company with that she inherited after my Dad passed away. None of that seemed to matter. They denied all three times. In all of her interviews, they always asked about me, where I lived, whether I was married, had kids, have a house, ....

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One other suggestion that she could do, is to get visitor visa to travel to a couple places such as Singapore, Japan or Hong Kong. That way there is some counter arguments to the presumptive immigrant intent that say “Look, I went to all these places and always come back. I am a law-abiding person.” 

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6 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

I think you case is 50/50, like everyone stated. It really could go either way, because she does have ties to Vietnam, however she also has ties to the US (you). And unfortunately as a Vietnamese, I have known other Vietnamese in the exact situation as you Mom (has multiple houses, lands, ...) and ended up overstayed the visa. They just transferred the deeds to their family members such as one of your sisters who still lives there. They pre-planned it, and once they had the visa, they did the transfer of houses. They always intended to do that anyways as a way to leave the inheritance to the family member.  I am in no way, shape, or form implying that is your plan. In fact, I believe you. However if I know those stories, certainly the people in the Consulate knows that too. 

 

Again, this is not to disappoint you, just prepare for reality. On the other side, it could be totally fine, and they will give her the visa, just like that! You only have the application fees to lose.

 

I am much like you, also came as an F-1 student originally. During the years my mom also tried to get a visitor visa to visit me, a total of 3 times. First two times were when I graduated from undergrad and graduate degrees. The last time, she actually was invited for a professional conference (she’s a dentist). She owed a house, my younger brother and her dad lived with her. She had her own dental office and was a shareholder in a company with that she inherited after my Dad passed away. None of that seemed to matter. They denied all three times. In all of her interviews, they always asked about me, where I lived, whether I was married, had kids, have a house, ....

Thanks for your sharing.

I know the case can be yes/no. We just give it a try. I wanted to be back there for her to see my little girl but I found out I am pregnant again so it is difficult for me to leave. I hope she can come to see us here. Worst case is to lose the visa fee.

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4 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

One other suggestion that she could do, is to get visitor visa to travel to a couple places such as Singapore, Japan or Hong Kong. That way there is some counter arguments to the presumptive immigrant intent that say “Look, I went to all these places and always come back. I am a law-abiding person.” 

That is a good idea. Thanks

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3 hours ago, Kimkim08 said:

I am 10-year green card holder, marriage a US citizen for 7 years and have a 2 years old girl and expecting another on in August. I want my mom to come here to visit for 3-4 months when I am at the last weeks of pregnancy. She owns land for rent and 2 houses in Vietnam, saving account. My older sister family live with her and they have 2 boys. My younger sister is in her 20s and not marriage yet lives in the same house.

I would like to know the chance she can get the visa to compare with others who son/daughter is naturalized already. Please help if you guys have any ideas.

(P.S I came here on F-1 visa and there was no problem getting green card. I just don't have time to apply for citizenship yet)

I just had my mom get visa and come to the US to visit. She only own one house and that is it. She brought some documents to her interview but nobody asked for a thing.

 

I understand that it is different based on each country but from what you have said I think she will have no problem. Tell her to be brutally honest with everything. I doubt they will stop her from visiting.

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54 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

One other suggestion that she could do, is to get visitor visa to travel to a couple places such as Singapore, Japan or Hong Kong. That way there is some counter arguments to the presumptive immigrant intent that say “Look, I went to all these places and always come back. I am a law-abiding person.” 

Yes, except she probably doesn’t have a child /incentive to overstay in those countries? I think the “well traveled” benefit for a visa calculation changes when the applicant has close family in the US.

 

i myself got my first US tourist visa with zero ties to my home country (I’d just graduated and had no job as I was taking a gap year to travel). They only gave me a one+year visa, but I got it. At some level it just comes down to whether or not they believe you.

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32 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Yes, except she probably doesn’t have a child /incentive to overstay in those countries? I think the “well traveled” benefit for a visa calculation changes when the applicant has close family in the US.

 

i myself got my first US tourist visa with zero ties to my home country (I’d just graduated and had no job as I was taking a gap year to travel). They only gave me a one+year visa, but I got it. At some level it just comes down to whether or not they believe you. 

I can speak to that from other folks I've known who had almost zero ties to their home country at the time they applied but were approved for a B. Also, I've known folks with zero international travel history who've been approved as well. There is a psychology element to it...which is probably one of the reasons why the face-to-face interview is required.

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1 hour ago, millefleur said:

I can speak to that from other folks I've known who had almost zero ties to their home country at the time they applied but were approved for a B. Also, I've known folks with zero international travel history who've been approved as well. There is a psychology element to it...which is probably one of the reasons why the face-to-face interview is required.

On, I was both. My one year US visa was the first thing in my first passport!

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13 hours ago, USS_Voyager said:

One other suggestion that she could do, is to get visitor visa to travel to a couple places such as Singapore, Japan or Hong Kong. That way there is some counter arguments to the presumptive immigrant intent that say “Look, I went to all these places and always come back. I am a law-abiding person.” 

OP's mom doesn't have binding ties to those countries and there would be no incentive to stay behind if a visa were granted. With family in the US, a much different set of circumstances and the potential to overstay. 

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Thanks for you all responds,

I know my mom needs to prove all evidence that she doesn’t want to stay in the US to interview officer.

My husband and I want her to visit and that’s it. He is a white guy with all American figures, it’s hard for him to get along with my Vietnam family. He can’t even stand when we talk too much of our Vietnamese language. He doesn’t  like to eat rice or noodles daily.

My mom also gets use to with Vietnam lifestyle with neighbors to talk, cải lương music...which we don’t have those here because of our job and location we live. (No Vietnamese community)

 I know it is HARD to prove to them because it is personal reference, cultural differences. 

Visiting for couple months is the only thing that works for all parties. 

Thank you.

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2 minutes ago, databit said:

Seriously? Prioritize.

Honestly, I don’t see any differences between Green Card holder and USC except for voting. I don’t rush over it so much. Maybe I am procrastinating or lazy. Before 10-yr expired, maybe I work on it.

thanks

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