US shutdown: Trump angered by Democrat rejection of 'compromise'

[TBoneTX 43,081]

What Yuna says in her longer message is largely true, in regard to Texas.

Each county has to verify the questionable records via proactive response from the people listed.

There's a process.

 

However, this isn't a nonissue altogether, or the Houston Chronicle (unfit to wrap fish in) wouldn't have reported it.

[NikLR 13,220]

The USA is 50 countries with an overlord.  Got it.  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

8 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

from what I have been led to believe it disenfranchises minority and legal immigrant voters, YMMV

But doesn’t that make people racist, saying that minorities cannot afford to get an ID?  Who are THEY to tell someone else what they can or cannot afford, or obtain access to?  That’s pretty rude at best, and racist at the very heart of it.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

22 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

But doesn’t that make people racist, saying that minorities cannot afford to get an ID?  Who are THEY to tell someone else what they can or cannot afford, or obtain access to?  That’s pretty rude at best, and racist at the very heart of it.

I did not say that was my opinion, i meant the response tongue in cheek

[OriZ 3,157]

9 hours ago, NikLR said:

I have no idea how the USA doesn't require a voter registration (showing citizenship), and then federally accepted ID (aka REAL ID or passport) to actually vote.  

100% there should be some type of ID required when you vote, it's basic common sense and no excuses fly here.

[yuna628 9,530]

1 minute ago, OriZ said:

100% there should be some type of ID required when you vote, it's basic common sense and no excuses fly here.

Well the whole rounding us up in camps, states rights, and invading our privacy thing was a big enough excuse for the Rs at the time that pretty much has ensured REAL ID was a big no no.

[OriZ 3,157]

2 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Well the whole rounding us up in camps, states rights, and invading our privacy thing was a big enough excuse for the Rs at the time that pretty much has ensured REAL ID was a big no no.

Well as you know I'm not either, I make my own opinion and reach my own conclusions based on the issue. No agenda. And it doesn't have to be REAL ID...I said some type of ID at least, have a state issued ID even just for that, I don't care. Mail it to people's home for free. But I'm telling you if I went to vote one time and someone happened to vote as me before I was there I'd flip their tables. It was a very odd experience for us here the first time we went to vote(my wife being from Milwaukee where they've always asked to see her ID, and in Israel they do as well) and went to show them her ID and they acted like they were vampires and she was pulling out garlic. Utterly ridiculous.

[yuna628 9,530]

2 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Well as you know I'm not either, I make my own opinion and reach my own conclusions based on the issue. No agenda. And it doesn't have to be REAL ID...I said some type of ID at least, have a state issued ID even just for that, I don't care. Mail it to people's home for free. But I'm telling you if I went to vote one time and someone happened to vote as me before I was there I'd flip their tables. It was a very odd experience for us here the first time we went to vote(my wife being from Milwaukee where they've always asked to see her ID, and in Israel they do as well) and went to show them her ID and they acted like they were vampires and she was pulling out garlic. Utterly ridiculous.

I'm fine with IDs, with the exception that the state does not make it so easy for some to get IDs these days. There has to be a better way, to ensure security but stop making some of the hoops people go through (especially some of the groups I mentioned) ridiculous.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

13 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

You caught that too, eh?

Like the Republicans compromise? 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

10 hours ago, NikLR said:

I have no idea how the USA doesn't require a voter registration (showing citizenship), and then federally accepted ID (aka REAL ID or passport) to actually vote.  

 

10 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

from what I have been led to believe it disenfranchises minority and legal immigrant voters, YMMV

@ALFKAD This is exactly what was is being said here in NC as we speak. During the 2018 election we had a Voter ID amendment added to the state constitution with a 55 to 45% vote requiring that an id is required in order to vote. The state General Assembly then went on and clarified that amendment with a bill saying what IDs can be used to vote and the ways how to get one if you need one. As you can expect it was derided by the Dems saying that is does disenfranchises the elderly, poor, and minority voters. Even though there are provisions in the bill that helps all of those groups get a ID in order to vote. The bill was passed by the General Assembly, vetoed by the Governor, and then the GA overrode that veto and passed it in to law. 

 

Literally by week's end there was a lawsuit against the voter id amendment. Also what's funny is some of the hard core leftists talking bs about how gerrymandering is keep them down here in the state can't explain how over 55% of the state voted for this amendment. 

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I can’t believe that  ID isn’t required to vote nor can I accept why E-Verify isn’t mandatory. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Randyandyuni said:

I did not say that was my opinion, i meant the response tongue in cheek

I know,  bro.  I'm with you .  Just a point I like to make when a liberal tries to tell me I'm racist for suggesting requiring an ID.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

I'm fine with IDs, with the exception that the state does not make it so easy for some to get IDs these days. There has to be a better way, to ensure security but stop making some of the hoops people go through (especially some of the groups I mentioned) ridiculous.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by a state making it hard to get an ID?  I've had one since I was 15, and never once had any problems obtaining one.  I carry 3 IDs daily, a 4th when I'm working, plus I have a birth certificate.

 

Third world country, but the Philippines issues a postal ID, about $2.  Used country wide as proof of who you are.

Edited January 29, 2019 by ALFKAD

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

32 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

 

@ALFKAD This is exactly what was is being said here in NC as we speak. During the 2018 election we had a Voter ID amendment added to the state constitution with a 55 to 45% vote requiring that an id is required in order to vote. The state General Assembly then went on and clarified that amendment with a bill saying what IDs can be used to vote and the ways how to get one if you need one. As you can expect it was derided by the Dems saying that is does disenfranchises the elderly, poor, and minority voters. Even though there are provisions in the bill that helps all of those groups get a ID in order to vote. The bill was passed by the General Assembly, vetoed by the Governor, and then the GA overrode that veto and passed it in to law. 

 

Literally by week's end there was a lawsuit against the voter id amendment. Also what's funny is some of the hard core leftists talking bs about how gerrymandering is keep them down here in the state can't explain how over 55% of the state voted for this amendment. 

No one seems to have any problems getting and using am ID when they want to purchase alcohol, cigarettes, or get an EBT card.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

3 hours ago, OriZ said:

Well as you know I'm not either, I make my own opinion and reach my own conclusions based on the issue. No agenda. And it doesn't have to be REAL ID...I said some type of ID at least, have a state issued ID even just for that, I don't care. Mail it to people's home for free. But I'm telling you if I went to vote one time and someone happened to vote as me before I was there I'd flip their tables. It was a very odd experience for us here the first time we went to vote(my wife being from Milwaukee where they've always asked to see her ID, and in Israel they do as well) and went to show them her ID and they acted like they were vampires and she was pulling out garlic. Utterly ridiculous.

I am in the Philippines,  were you have to show an ID and get your finger dipped in ink. I just told my in laws about this. They could not comprehend  why anyone could possibly think its a bad idea.

 

There are also walls around most of the houses.

 

My 10 year old gifted neice ask me about history. I told her about WW2 and the Japanese invading the Philippines.  She had never heard of it. Then we touched on the holocaust.  She just could not get her mind around Hitler gassing over 6 million jews.  Children should be taught what happens when  evil is not checked .