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Hi, everyone!

I am a US citizen, and I'll be moving back to the US for a new position, in late July.
My wife is a Japanese national (we were married here in Japan in 2015), and she will be staying here until our child is born in late October.

I want to get the ball rolling with her visa application, and I've found that I will need to fill our an I-130 for her IR-1 visa.
This is fine, but I'm worried that the application will take too long to process (I read that it could take up to a year!).

My questions:

1.) Should I fill out a K-3 application for a non-immigrant visa for my wife, and send it in as one package, along with
the I-130 application?

2.) Once her K-3 comes through, I know she can be in the US as she waits for her I-130 to be approved.  However, once
the I-130 is approved, will she have to fly back to Japan to get her IR-1 visa?

3.) Our new US address is not finalized, yet.  May I enter my family's address as a substitute for her application(s), and somehow
update USCIS, later, with the new address?

Thanks, everyone!  I'm just looking to get this done, ASAP!

-Jon in Japan

Posted

The K-3 is as good as obsolete so I wouldn’t waste any time on that. In any event, if you do decide to file for it you need to have a receipt for an I-130 first. You don’t send it in the same package. 

 

 

The process takrs svout a year to 14 months. It is what it is. She can visit you during the process. 

 

If you you don’t have an address in the US yet just use the address of a relative where you can receive mail and update it later once you have a permanent address. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Posted

1.  Don't count on the K3.  It will be administratively closed once the I-130 for the CR-1 is approved.

 

2.  Not going to happen.  Don't count on her getting a K3

 

3.  Yes.

 

Look into DCF in Japan.  DO THIS BEFORE YOU LEAVE JAPAN.  This is the quickest way to get your wife to the US.  If you have to file in the US, it will take a year or so for your wife to get a visa.

 

You're starting this process VERY LATE.  DCF is your best option.

Posted

JFH and Jojo92122, thanks for replying.

So, from what you both said, there is no way for my wife and child to reside in the US
with me until my wife's I-130 comes through.  Is this correct?

I didn't know about this new position until very recently, so there isn't much I could
have done, prior to this.  We're both still in Japan, and she is due with our first child
in October.

Thanks,

-Jon in Japan

Posted
2 minutes ago, Jonbre said:

JFH and Jojo92122, thanks for replying.

So, from what you both said, there is no way for my wife and child to reside in the US
with me until my wife's I-130 comes through.  Is this correct?

I didn't know about this new position until very recently, so there isn't much I could
have done, prior to this.  We're both still in Japan, and she is due with our first child
in October.

Thanks,

-Jon in Japan

Pretty much.  She can visit but she can't live there until the Visa is granted.  You will also need a CRBA for the child after they are born so they can get a passport and move to the USA when mom immigrated.  

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, Jonbre said:

JFH and Jojo92122, thanks for replying.

So, from what you both said, there is no way for my wife and child to reside in the US
with me until my wife's I-130 comes through.  Is this correct?


I didn't know about this new position until very recently, so there isn't much I could
have done, prior to this.  We're both still in Japan, and she is due with our first child
in October.

Thanks,

-Jon in Japan

That is correct.  Entering the US via a non-immigrant visa or ESTA with the intent to stay in the US and adjust status is visa fraud.  It results in severe consequences.  However, short visits in the US during the I-130 process and the NVC process is perfectly legal, many people do this.  Currently, processing time from paperwork submission to visa in hand is 12-14 months on average, assuming there are no hiccups. 

 

This is a long, tiring, and expensive process.  Good luck on your visa journey and your new job.

Edited by missileman

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Timeline
Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, Jonbre said:

JFH and Jojo92122, thanks for replying.

So, from what you both said, there is no way for my wife and child to reside in the US
with me until my wife's I-130 comes through.  Is this correct?

I didn't know about this new position until very recently, so there isn't much I could
have done, prior to this.  We're both still in Japan, and she is due with our first child
in October.

Thanks,

-Jon in Japan

The I-130 is only the first part.  It will take USCIS about 6 or so months to approve it before sending it off to the NVC.  You would submit an I-864 to the NVC and your wife would file a DS-260.  Then an interview in Japan for an immigration visa about a year after you file the I-130.  THEN, she can immigrate.

 

DCF is your best choice.  Look into it now.  This will allow you to bypass the process in the US and have the I-130 processed in Japan.  It requires you to have residency in Japan.  Once you leave Japan, you will not qualify to file DCF.  This may get your wife to the US by the end of this year.

Edited by Jojo92122
Posted

I agree 100% that if you can go the DCF route, do it....it is much faster....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

I shall certainly look into the DCF, although I'm not quite sure what our "exceptional circumstances" would
be, other than the fact that our family will be split up until my wife can come to the US.  I'm quite taken aback
that the consulate and USCIS would lie to me about the K-3 visa, but I suppose there's nothing to do about it.

I have friends and family that did this process, but with the "fiancee visa," and it took much less time - I suppose
we should have waited to get married and gone this route?

Posted

K1 visa might take up to a year also and in your situation would be kind of pointless- spouse visa is much better for you. 

 

And being apart is not a special circumstances really- everyone who waited for k1 or cr1 visas was apart at some point. 

K1

29.11.2013 - NoA1

06.02.2014 - NoA2

01.04.2014 - Interview. 

AoS

03.2015 - AoS started.

09.2015 - Green Card received.  

RoC

24.07.2017 - NoA1.

01.08.2018 - RoC approved. 

 

 

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Austria
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Posted
15 minutes ago, Jonbre said:

I shall certainly look into the DCF, although I'm not quite sure what our "exceptional circumstances" would
be, other than the fact that our family will be split up until my wife can come to the US.  I'm quite taken aback
that the consulate and USCIS would lie to me about the K-3 visa, but I suppose there's nothing to do about it.

I have friends and family that did this process, but with the "fiancee visa," and it took much less time - I suppose
we should have waited to get married and gone this route?

The CR1/IR1 visa doesnmt really take that much longer than the K1 nowadays

especially becaue you later have to adjust status and wait until u can work ( on K1)

With the IR1/CR1 your wife will be able to immediately get her greencard as well as work and travel again if she would want to

And with you being married for over 2 years already your wife will get a 10 year green card right away

 

So I would as well say: definitely get information about DCF and start the process asap!!!

Good luck!

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Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, Jonbre said:

I shall certainly look into the DCF, although I'm not quite sure what our "exceptional circumstances" would
be, other than the fact that our family will be split up until my wife can come to the US.  I'm quite taken aback
that the consulate and USCIS would lie to me about the K-3 visa, but I suppose there's nothing to do about it.

I have friends and family that did this process, but with the "fiancee visa," and it took much less time - I suppose
we should have waited to get married and gone this route?

No body lied to you about the K3.  Like most Americans, you probably thought that immigration for your wife would be fast and easy.  It's not.  During this process, you will learn many new things.  You will see that you misunderstood things along the way because immigration is a bit more complex than what the average American thinks.

 

For example: you will learn that DCF with a spouse is faster than going the K1 route.  You will learn that DCF is truly the fastest and best option to getting your wife to the US.  Consider how long it took the spouses of your family and friends to file and get the K1, then get marry in the US, file for AOS, wait for their EAD/AP cards, and wait almost a year for a green card.  Their total time is 2 years.  With DCF, your wife can have an immigration visa in 6 months and upon entry into the US, she automatically gets a green card without you having to file anything else.  Also, having been married for over 2 years, you avoid the removal of conditions that your family and friends on the K1 had to pay for and endure.  

 

If you want legal advice, hire a lawyer.  The purpose of the consulate and USCIS is to process and judge the applications in front of them.  It is not their job to advise you how to navigate the world of visas and what your filing options may be.  That's your lawyer's job.  If you don't want to hire a lawyer, then it's your job.

 

Take the time to educate yourself like you are doing.  This is your journey and your responsibility.  

 

READ.  READ.  READ.  Then come back here with questions.

 

Best of luck.

Edited by Jojo92122
Posted
4 hours ago, Jonbre said:

I have friends and family that did this process, but with the "fiancee visa," and it took much less time - I suppose
we should have waited to get married and gone this route?

You are much better with a CR-1/IR-1:

K-1

    More expensive than CR-1

    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)

    Spouse can not leave the US until she receives approved Advance Parole (approx 3-4 months)

    Spouse can not work until she receives EAD (approx 3-4 months)

    some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period .

    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

CR-1

    Less expensive than K-1

    No AOS required.

    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US

    Spouse can start work if desired

    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card withing 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US

    Spouse  has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.

 

All-in-all, the CR-1 is superior to the K-1 imo.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
5 hours ago, Jonbre said:

I'm quite taken aback
that the consulate and USCIS would lie to me about the K-3 visa, but I suppose there's nothing to do about it.

They didn't lie...K-3 is on the books until immigration law is changed, and they are required to go by the law. The practicality of it is another issue. They are prohibited from providing legal advice (i.e. on what you "should" do).

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Posted

The published guideline for exceptional circumstances which may allow DCF can be found here:  https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/2012/May/DOS-I130May1412.pdf

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

 
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