Child from assault

[Nitas_man 3,100]

19 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

I have to agree with the previous poster.  I would hope for the best but prepare for a denial.
The CO will want to know when the child is due in order to figure out when it was conceived and if you were with her then. So of course she needs to
answer all questions truthfully. Yes, she needs to fully disclose everything, what if they request a DNA test if she doesn't and they assume it's yours ?
Did she file a police report she can bring to the interview ?They may think she cheated and don't believe the assault happened.
You definitely should be there for the interview in case they have questions for you.
The trust issue is huge and not to tell you as soon as it happened is a red flag.

Please do not mistake my comments, made from experience being drilled at (more than one) embassies, as passing judgement on the OP and fiancé.  He does deserve a heads up as to what to expect the interviewing officer will do and say and this interview will take a little bit more preparation than the normal review of documents and standard questions about how they met and what are her plans when she gets to the US.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

12 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

Please do not mistake my comments, made from experience being drilled at (more than one) embassies, as passing judgement on the OP and fiancé.  He does deserve a heads up as to what to expect the interviewing officer will do and say and this interview will take a little bit more preparation than the normal review of documents and standard questions about how they met and what are her plans when she gets to the US.

Chances are my experience of having been drilled is even worse than yours. Not sure why you think I mistake your comment for passing judgement.

What judgement ? When I said previous poster I was referring to someone else not you. I don't get the reason you quoted me.
 

 

[NikLR 13,220]

1 hour ago, Nitas_man said:

 

I am not sure that not knowing that a child or pregnancy existed during a fiancé visa process is a strong case for a valid relationship.  Born after the petition was approved is probably a better position to take and a pregnancy during this process is going to raise a huge red flag.

 

Be prepared for the CO to thoroughly drill down into this.  It might be a little bit painful.

I said nothing about the OP having to prove a valid relationship.  It sounds like the fiancee is close to receiving her visa already and has already had an interview.  the only further interview would be the child's and the fiancee isn't going to be drilled about this child other than the fact it's not the OP's.  She was raped.  We're not seriously victim blaming here are we?   While the CO will question this, and yes it will hurt for her to be questioned, I do hope they aren't victim blaming either and that she's hopefully prosecuted the person responsible.  I also really don't think it matter's if the rapist think's it's okay for the child to leave.  IMHO they don't have a right to think anything about this child. 

1 hour ago, EandH0904 said:

Your visa was approved 18 months ago but she hasn't come yet?? When did you last see her? Has she been getting extension after extension? There will no doubt be issues she will have to explain about the baby's father and why she doesn't have permission to take the baby to the US and now she doesn't want to leave the baby  (I don't blame her).

 

That's a big, huge secret to keep. Huge. How could one person keep a secret from the other half for THAT long that would significantly impact BOTH your lives? If she was concerned you'd be upset how did she think when you finally found out? Did you not see photos of her for months? My fiance and I send multiple snaps a day. 

 

There's just soooooo much about this situation doesn't make sense, and the baby doesn't have anything to do with it, but secrets and lies and not seeing each other for such a looooong time. 

 

Not passing judgement, I don't know either of you, but how certain are either of you that you still want to get married? 

I've known MARRIED women, in the USA, who didn't want to tell their spouses that they were pregnant WITH the spouse's child.  I can fully see why a woman, who's been raped and ended up pregnant, would keep a pregnancy from a fiance in another country.  She's been traumatized.  She's scared and alone.  I give her kudos.

Edited October 17, 2017 by NikLR

[Nitas_man 3,100]

35 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Chances are my experience of having been drilled is even worse than yours. Not sure why you think I mistake your comment for passing judgement.

What judgement ? When I said previous poster I was referring to someone else not you. I don't get the reason you quoted me.
 

 

I replied to the wrong post  oops

[Jonbolson 1]

there is no fathers name on the birth certificate.  and the cops in her country are really inadequate.   the child has already been born and is riddled with medical issues.  another reason to get her here as soon as possible.  As for the time line when everything happened, the locals that screen at the embassy have been giving my fiancee the run around.  from the first two times she arrived to her interview only to be turned away for not having her biometrics done, and the second time in which the screeners took her medical exams and the  turned her away, causing her to have to get new medical exams done, then with a congressional started so she could finally get into the interview.  the actual CO telling her to bring another document, and each time a different one even though all of those documents were in her packet, or if they needed the form I was able to email to them.  

[Nitas_man 3,100]

1 minute ago, Jonbolson said:

there is no fathers name on the birth certificate.  and the cops in her country are really inadequate.   the child has already been born and is riddled with medical issues.  another reason to get her here as soon as possible.  As for the time line when everything happened, the locals that screen at the embassy have been giving my fiancee the run around.  from the first two times she arrived to her interview only to be turned away for not having her biometrics done, and the second time in which the screeners took her medical exams and the  turned her away, causing her to have to get new medical exams done, then with a congressional started so she could finally get into the interview.  the actual CO telling her to bring another document, and each time a different one even though all of those documents were in her packet, or if they needed the form I was able to email to them.  

Good luck to you guys

[Villanelle 4,121]

23 minutes ago, Jonbolson said:

there is no fathers name on the birth certificate.  and the cops in her country are really inadequate.   the child has already been born and is riddled with medical issues.  another reason to get her here as soon as possible.  As for the time line when everything happened, the locals that screen at the embassy have been giving my fiancee the run around.  from the first two times she arrived to her interview only to be turned away for not having her biometrics done, and the second time in which the screeners took her medical exams and the  turned her away, causing her to have to get new medical exams done, then with a congressional started so she could finally get into the interview.  the actual CO telling her to bring another document, and each time a different one even though all of those documents were in her packet, or if they needed the form I was able to email to them.  

Are you sure all of this is true? You said she was pushing back the process because of the situation. Seems like a few of these things that happened couldve just been excuses from her.

 

Since Im not sure how much of what you are relaying here is the truth vs how much is just what you think is the truth all Im going to say is if it happened exactly how she stated she has nothing to worry about. Include the child now on the K2. Look into adoption laws for your state. The Officer who interviews her will ask questions but she just needs to tell the truth. She wont be denied for this.

 

If she is NOT telling you the whole truth she should be nervous to go to the interview and be questioned.

[CEE53147 559]

1 hour ago, Jonbolson said:

there is no fathers name on the birth certificate.  and the cops in her country are really inadequate.   the child has already been born and is riddled with medical issues.  another reason to get her here as soon as possible.  As for the time line when everything happened, the locals that screen at the embassy have been giving my fiancee the run around.  from the first two times she arrived to her interview only to be turned away for not having her biometrics done, and the second time in which the screeners took her medical exams and the  turned her away, causing her to have to get new medical exams done, then with a congressional started so she could finally get into the interview.  the actual CO telling her to bring another document, and each time a different one even though all of those documents were in her packet, or if they needed the form I was able to email to them.  

 

I suggest you receive some family counseling before you go any further.  Marriage especially to someone coming to the US as an immigrant is stressful enough. Add the baby, its health issues, and the situation in general, and you are at great risk of having the marriage fail.  A divorce and its consequences will affect you for life. If the child has significant health issues, you may be bankrupting yourself supporting another man's child to the detriment of your own.  Will you be able to deal with the problems of a child with health problems? You need to speak with an objective yet knowledgeable professional to help you assess whether you are up to the challenges if you go forward with the current plan.

[Jonbolson 1]

you are correct in that these medical issues are bankrupting me, I cannot blame my fiancee for what happened, it's not her fault.  We also have a son together who an American citizen.  I want to be with my son as well as my wife/fiancee (been together for 5 years).  I am not going to walk away, and as for some of the previous comments you are also right about her not telling me the whole truth initially (she was able to hide a pregnancy from me).  So in other words I do not care where this child came from, it is sad and heartbreaking on how this child came to be, to be with my son and my wife, I will accept this child as well.

[Boiler 43,836]

Not the forst time I have seen something like this, I think the others involved PI.

[Auds 223]

4 hours ago, Jonbolson said:

you are correct in that these medical issues are bankrupting me, I cannot blame my fiancee for what happened, it's not her fault.  We also have a son together who an American citizen.  I want to be with my son as well as my wife/fiancee (been together for 5 years).  I am not going to walk away, and as for some of the previous comments you are also right about her not telling me the whole truth initially (she was able to hide a pregnancy from me).  So in other words I do not care where this child came from, it is sad and heartbreaking on how this child came to be, to be with my son and my wife, I will accept this child as well.

Reapect to you for not walking away, for giving the benefit of doubt.

 

i know men who will break a relationship for not telling them about the smallest of things.

 

i truly hope you are not being scammed.  If so, she deft needs therapy to learn to trust to confide in a man as deserving of trust as you.

[kris&me 572]

They are going to check to see it she has reported an assault to the police.

If there is no record of an assault, she is going to have to provide evidence ot the father thru DNA and get his permission to le tthe child travel

 

Don't be surprised if a denial is in your future

 

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

we all go thru so much for immigration, don't make your journey more difficult

you need to check out her story

It has happened here before

1. and 1 man was surprised when his wife got her gc and then divorced him and bought the child's father here

2 . dont take this as judgement as i feel for any woman and assault victims as i was myself (no pregnacy)

if assaulted, she will need consul,   / she will feel totally violated, she will feel guilt / she will never get over it / she will just be guided to live and move on if she gets proper help

either of the above situations is going to mean more work for you, more expense, and more for your application to pass immigration

now, about the assault, please feel free to have her contact me (while she is there or when she comes) as she needs people who understand the complete violation of her being 

let me know here and i will send my number in private message

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

actually asked for legal advice for this and don't be surpired if the woman also has to prove she is the mother thru DNA

as people have tried to bring in a neice or nephew with hopes of giving them a good living

my offer still stands to help her with getting consul or just listening

no one but another person who has gone thru an assault can understand

[David & Diana R 1,005]

16 hours ago, Jonbolson said:

Good evening,

 

I have petitioned for my fiancee to come got the United States, the petition was approved, she is almost finishing with the embassy, and she discloses that she was assaulted and got pregnant, she didn't tell me the news until a week before the child was born.  I am asking how the child can be brought to the US?  I cannot blame my fiancee or the child what has happened, I will take care of the child as if she were my own.  My fiancee just has to submit one more document the embassy needs and she will have her visa,  she is now saying she doesn't want to leave the child with her family.  My original intent was to bring my fiancee here, get married and then file for a K3/K4 visa for the child as a step child.  Is there a way for the child to come with her mother?

The CO is going to make this very difficult.  He/she is going to suspect that your fiance has been using you just to get money/support.  I mean, really she hid this from you for 9 months? Hos is that possible?  I mean I'm sure you two skyped?  To be truthful I am very suspicious and perhaps you should be also.  It is very possible that you have been supporting her and her boyfriend/husband.  This happens....  I would be very cautious moving forward if you decide to do so.  Something is fishy here.