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IR wife just got citizenship, what is the process for her minor child?

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My wife just passed her citizenship test!!!  But they did not mention anything about her 12 year old son.  I thought he would automatically get citizenship as well.  What is the process for him?  Or did I miss something?

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1.  Is her son an LPR?

2. Does he live with her?

3. Does she have legal custody of him?

 

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24 minutes ago, Mike E said:

1.  Is her son an LPR?

2. Does he live with her?

3. Does she have legal custody of him?

4. Was the kid ever included in all her petitions?

 

Just to piggy ride 

Immigration journey is not: fast, for the faint at heart, easy, cheap, for the impatient nor right away. If more than 50% of this applies to you, best get off the bus.

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4 hours ago, Timona said:

 

Just to piggy ride 

Piggiyriding the piggy ride here

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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4 hours ago, AdmiralAaron said:

My wife just passed her citizenship test!!!  But they did not mention anything about her 12 year old son.  I thought he would automatically get citizenship as well.  What is the process for him?  Or did I miss something?

For him to become a citizen the son has a separate process. The 12 year old will automatically become a citizen if he has a green card and is living with and in the custody of his USA citizen parent.

If he meets the requirements you would file an n600 for his certificate of naturalization.

K1 Visa Arrived USA July 2017

Married August 2017

AOS Approved July 2018

 

Filed for i751 joint application May 2020

Fingerprints reused October 2020, and February 2021 and June 2021 (Yes 3 fingerprint notices)

Case move to National Benefits Center December 2020 for quicker processing from California Service Center

Oct 2021 out of processing time inquiry made, response May 5th 2022 that our i751 case will be addressed at our n400 interview

Combo interview May 16th 2022, in Sacramento

Approved June 08, 2022

 

Filed for Naturalization May 2021

Fingerprints reused May 2021

Combo interview May 16th 2022, in Sacramento, 

Approved June 08, 2022

Oath Ceremony completed June 29th 2022

 

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18 hours ago, Mike E said:

1.  Is her son an LPR?

2. Does he live with her?

3. Does she have legal custody of him?

 

Yes,yes and yes.  He has been with us the whole time in America.  His father had already signed away parental rights before they came to the US.  He has his greencard.

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11 minutes ago, AdmiralAaron said:

Yes,yes and yes.  He has been with us the whole time in America.  His father had already signed away parental rights before they came to the US.  He has his greencard.

Awesome.  
 

So with this evidence she can apply for a passport and passport card for her so.  She will also need her naturalization certificate.  
 

To show physical custody, a school record listing parent and child and the address is ideal but there are other ways.  
 

She can apply for his passport and passport card at a post office that takes passport appointments. 
 

Once the passport and pass card are received, she should

 

* file a SS-5 with SSA to get him a new SS card using his passport card as evidence 

 

* file N-600 to get his certificate of citizenship.  Use the same evidence that was used to get his passport and passport card. 
 

There will be a chorus of people here and elsewhere who will tell you the N-600 is not needed.  I disagree because down the road her son will be faced with a situation where neither  passport nor passport card will be accepted:

 

* security clearance 

* motor vehicles department 

* certain roles in military and federal service 

* registering to vote online 

* petitioning an alien for an immigration benefit 

 

The chorus will be filled with counter examples where a passport or passport card was accepted, but that’s like  saying it’s ok to speed because most people don’t get caught. 
 

Getting a certificate of citizenship decades after reaching age 18 is legally possible yet practically difficult to especially if the naturalized parent has passed away or lost the naturalization certificate 

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51 minutes ago, AdmiralAaron said:

Got it.  What is the advantage of a Pass Card.  Is the passport itself sufficient?

 

You are questioning the cost benefit ratio of having a second proof of U.S. Citizenship. For an additional $35.  
 

 

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8 hours ago, AdmiralAaron said:

Got it.  What is the advantage of a Pass Card.  Is the passport itself sufficient?

 

Benefits:

The passport card is cheap and, in some scenarios, you can leave the full passport at home. 

 

Downsides: None

Steps Before Citizenship:

Spoiler

K-1

09/24/2016 - I-129F Packet Submitted, 09/26/2016 - NOA1, 10/27/2016 - RFE Received

11/02/2016 - RFE Reply sent

11/09/2016 - NOA2

11/21/2016 - NVC Receives packet

12/12/2016 - Case left NVC for BKK Consulate

01/10/2017 - After travelling via the slowest route possible (likely via carrier pigeon) BKK Consulate receives packet

01/16/2017 - Packet 3 Instructions received 02/28/2017 - Packet 3 Instructions Completed

03/05/2017 - Packet 4 received (now the fun begins) --> 03/29/2017 - Interview disappears from the schedule on the embassy website -->03/30/2017 - She goes to her interview, is told they need to verify her documents since she is Vietnamese interviewing in Thailand, receives a 221G with 'Verification of Viet documents' as the reason. Gave back her passport.-->03/31/2017-04/04/2017 - Case is being continuously touched. We suspect that our case was approved at this point but they didn't have her passport. --> 04/10/2017 (10 days after interview) - Email emabssy to inquire about updates and if there was anything we could do to move things forward. (3h later) - She is told that she is approved and to expect her passport soon (how when they don't have it in their posession?) After clarification, instructed to send our passport to them. Ship out passport in a rush to beat Songkran (which failed) --> 04/11/2017 - Passport at embassy according to Thai Post Office --> 04/17/2017 - Emailed to confirm they received the passport. They issued an evasive answer about Songkran backlog (they love evasive non-committal answers)--> 04/24/2017  Evening - Case changes from Immigrant Visa to Non-Immigrant Visa and a new case created date is given --? 04/25/2017 morning  (less than 12h later) - Case flies through Ready -->Admin Processing --> Issued

04/26/2017 - Checks mail, passport is there. No mention of it being mailed out. 

05/02/2017 - Arrives in the USA, without Issue

06/17/2017 - Marriage!

AOS

7/01/17- Mailed AOS packet to Chicago

7/03/17- Packet received

07/07/17 - SMS and Email notification of NOA1 for AoS, EAD, and AP

07/13/17 - Received paper copies of NOA1 for AoS, EAD, and AP

07/21/17 - Received Biometrics Appointment Letter

08/02/17 - Biometrics Appointment Completed 

11/04/17 - EAD Approved - New Card Is Ready For Production

11/09/17 - AP Approved, EAD - Card Produced Awaiting Mailing, EAD - Card Has Been Mailed.

11/13/17 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received. 

11/05/2018 - Received SMS Notification that Interview Has Been Scheduled

11/10/2018 - Received Paper Interview Notice

12/11/2018 - Interview Date
12/12/2018 - Approved

ROC

11/18/2020 - Mailed ROC packet

11/20/2020 - Packet received

01/16/2021 - Received NOA1 

05/28/2021 - Biometrics Waived

08/04/2021 - ROC Approved

08/11/2021 - GC received

 

Citizenship

09/15/2021 - N-400 Filed Electronically, NOA-1 received, Biometrics Waiver Received

07/01/2022 - Interview Notice Received
08/10/2022 - Interview Date, Approved, Oath Ceremony

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