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Hi guys, 

 

I'm filing soon and wanted to get your advice on a few things

 

1) Do you print everything single sided, including bank statements? 

2) For photos I'm simply putting them in a word file with captions and printing the file as I would any other document. That is fine, right? or do they really want pics on a glossy paper?

3) The form version on USCIS website says it expires in 2019, but that's the only one available. I'm assuming that is okay to use? 

 

For joint account/mortgage statements, I am only planning to send last 12 months, with letter from the bank saying that we've had this account for more than 5 years. I didn't want to inundate them with too much. Other pieces of evidence include: mortgage, joint utility; joint auto title; joint health and home/auto insurance; beneficiaries in brokerage account. 

 

Finally, due to our financial situation it makes sense to file our taxes under married file separately category (filing together would increase one of our monthly tuition loan repayment by quite a bit). I'm still planning to include my tax transcript that shows my spouse listed, even though we file under separately filing category. Lawyers I've spoken to say there is nothing wrong with married filing separately, if it makes sense to your circumstances, after all it's an option offered by the government and completely legal, and it's not looked down by USCIS. My question is, should I send my tax transcript at all? Anyone who filed MFS sent their transcript?

 

Thanks guys, and goodluck with your applications!

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6 minutes ago, SS_SS said:

Hi guys, 

 

I'm filing soon and wanted to get your advice on a few things

 

1) Do you print everything single sided, including bank statements? 

2) For photos I'm simply putting them in a word file with captions and printing the file as I would any other document. That is fine, right? or do they really want pics on a glossy paper?

3) The form version on USCIS website says it expires in 2019, but that's the only one available. I'm assuming that is okay to use? 

 

For joint account/mortgage statements, I am only planning to send last 12 months, with letter from the bank saying that we've had this account for more than 5 years. I didn't want to inundate them with too much. Other pieces of evidence include: mortgage, joint utility; joint auto title; joint health and home/auto insurance; beneficiaries in brokerage account. 

 

Finally, due to our financial situation it makes sense to file our taxes under married file separately category (filing together would increase one of our monthly tuition loan repayment by quite a bit). I'm still planning to include my tax transcript that shows my spouse listed, even though we file under separately filing category. Lawyers I've spoken to say there is nothing wrong with married filing separately, if it makes sense to your circumstances, after all it's an option offered by the government and completely legal, and it's not looked down by USCIS. My question is, should I send my tax transcript at all? Anyone who filed MFS sent their transcript?

 

Thanks guys, and goodluck with your applications!

1. Yes.

2. We did the Word file thing with captions too. No issues.

3. Whatever is on the website is the current form. I forget what exactly that "expiration date" means but it does not mean the form is obsolete.

 

RE: Joint acct/mortgage - I think that should be okay. Technically for RoC, USCIS wants to see evidence that covers the totality of the marriage, not just the time between AOS and the present. The official letter from the bank saying you guys have had the account should cover that though. Your other evidence is good.

 

RE: Taxes - I don't know much about MFS but the best bet would be to send your AND your spouse's transcripts.

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1 - double sided is fine for stuff that came double sided, like bank or credit card statements.

For written stuff, letters, affidavits, photos, then single sided. 

 

2 - yes that is fine. Alternatively, bulk order glossy prints from walgreens/walmart etc , and write on back or attach to paper with written notes on. Cost per photo print may be cheaper than colour ink printing per page

 

3 - Whichever is the one currently on the website.

 

 

Taxes are an IRS issue, not a USCIS issue. Changing how you file just to suit a subjective & arbitrary checklist by USCIS is daft.

 

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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Great--thanks guys. I'll be mailing mine end of this week. There are just two sets of addresses, correct? One for folks using USCIS and another for UPS and Fedex. I am asking because in some of the older posts, people seem to have sent it to addresses depending on the state they resided in. 

 

I'm in NYC so hopefully package eventually gets routed to Vermont (?), which seems to be faster than other centers. I remember waiting for 14 months for my adjustment of status interview. 

 

I think sending my spouse's transcript is a good idea. The reason I was thinking not to send it was that when you file MFS, the spouse whose SSN is listed on one form has to file MFS too with other other spouse's SSN too--otherwise the IRS simply rejects the filing; so it's automatically implied that my spouse's return will have my SSN. But USCIS folks don't know how this might work, so better to send both. 

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Do follow the instructions re: timing of evidence FROM THE DATE OF MARRIAGE.  Send copies of your bank statements since you married - but maybe only quarterly statements.  Your having a letter from the bank covering 5 years seems creative, but I, myself, would not have chanced it.  We sent 4 statements per year.

 

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1. They specifically write on their website that they want single sided. https://www.uscis.gov/forms/filing-guidance/form-filing-tips

 

2. No glossy photos, regular print-outs on copy paper is the way to go. Write little captions under each photo to explain them (dates, places etc).

 

3. The right form is always the one available on their website the day you ship off your package, no matter what dates it has. You can also check the tab where it says "edition" and it tells you which edition to use. 

 

4. Definitely both yours and your spouse's transcripts, that way they can see the same address on both (proof of co-habitation). 

 

5. Do not do the last 12 months, they want to see evidence from the entire marriage. Rather pick 4 statements from each year instead of all of them from the last year. 

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AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

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3 hours ago, SS_SS said:

I didn't want to inundate them with too much.

We filed the I-751 in late May, and the package was 528 single-sided pages.  How much you send is a personal decision of course, but I wanted to be as thorough as possible with evidence since the date of our marriage, so we sent every page of our joint checking account since marriage (3 years) and every page of our joint credit card statements (3 years), plus all IRS tax transcripts and much more.  The I-751 instructions say regarding evidence of the bona fide marriage relationship, to "Submit copies of as many documents as you can to establish this fact, to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship from the date of the marriage to the present date..." (page 5 of the I-751 instructions), so that's exactly what we did.  Good luck!

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8 hours ago, carmel34 said:

We filed the I-751 in late May, and the package was 528 single-sided pages.  How much you send is a personal decision of course, but I wanted to be as thorough as possible with evidence since the date of our marriage, so we sent every page of our joint checking account since marriage (3 years) and every page of our joint credit card statements (3 years), plus all IRS tax transcripts and much more.  The I-751 instructions say regarding evidence of the bona fide marriage relationship, to "Submit copies of as many documents as you can to establish this fact, to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship from the date of the marriage to the present date..." (page 5 of the I-751 instructions), so that's exactly what we did.  Good luck!

That is exactly what we did. We sent every page of every statement from each month. since 2017 until the time we filed. That's what the instructions state and that is what we did. :) 

 

I-751 Joint Filing.

06-15-2021 - Case was updated to show fingerprints were taken. 

05-26-2021 - Received NOA/extension letter. Notice date and postmarked 05-20-2021.

05-23-2021 - Received text message with Receipt #. YSC Potomac Center.

05-21-2021 - Checks cashed (processing on joint checking account)

05-07-2021 - I-751 received in Arizona.

 

Marriage-based AOS - Concurrent filing.

05-07-2019 - AOS Approved. Resident since date 05/07/2019.

05-06-2019 - AOS Interview

04-23-2018 - "Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview"

03-16-2018 - Priority Date.

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I generally agree except on one point.  I was light on the info prior to receiving the I130.  I guess there’s not a lot to show in terms of bank records.  Those who do AOS often don’t have a lot of that stuff since prior to AOS the person coming to the US doesn’t have a Social Security number or start working.  They do need three years of tax returns and another tax year will pass by the time you have an interview, if you have one.  To avoid the interview, be as complete and organized as possible.  

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We submitted these items yesterday.  I hope they're enough.  We had loads of evidence for the AOS and didn't want to repeat that.  Also felt that our banking accounts are the same so they can see that when reviewing.  Ah well, fingers crossed it was enough.  Did the hole punch and folder with it attached, and sticky divider labels on the bottom for organisation. 

·        Copies of the passport and the front and back of the permanent residency card of...

·        Deed to house

·        Fire Safety Compliance for House

·        Town Taxpayer notice

·        Mortgage statements (2) from Bank

·        Joint Credit Cards and statement (Chase)

·        Joint Checking Account Statement

·        Joint Savings Account Statement

·        Car Lease Agreement

·        Credit Union Statement for Lease

·        Esurance Policy for car

·        State Insurance Identity Card

·        401K Beneficiary

·        Life Insurance Beneficiary (A)

·        Life Insurance Beneficiary

(B)

·        IRS Tax Return Transcripts for 2018, 2019 & 2020

·        State tax Returns for 2018, 2019 & 2020

·        Itineraries for trips to Philadelphia (June 2019), UK (Jan 2020) and Africa (April/May 2019)

·        Membership to club

       Change of address stamps on letters

·        Photos from the last few years

·        Copies of Housewarming cards from our friends and family

I-129F                                                                                                           AOS 

24/7/17 - I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX via FedEx                                          19/6/18   - AoS mailed to Chicago via FedEx
25/7/17 - I-129F received at Lewisville, TX                                                          20/6/18   - AoS received at Chicago. I-485/I-765/I-131
27/7/17- NOA1 Notice date on I-797C also via SMS and e-mail                      27/6/18   - check cashed by USCIS 

1/8/17 - NOA1 hardcopy via mail (hardcopy date: 27/7/17)                            28/6/18   - received NOA numbers for all three apps, "submitted date" says 25/6/18   
5/2/18 - NOA2 via SMS and e-mail and App                                                       
2/7/18     - received hardcopy NOA's for all three apps
7/2/18 - NOA2 hardcopy via mail (hardcopy dated: 2/2/18)                            6/7/18     - received letter with date for Biometrics appt            
13/2/18NVC received                                                                                           
9/7/18     - Biometrics appt            
16/2/18 - NVC case number assigned/Case left NVC, status 'In Transit'     
20/7/18   - Fingerprint Review was completed            
20/2/18 - Consulate received                                                                                 
25/7/18   - Update on Current Status on I-485: "Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview"       
8/3/18 - Medical                                                                                                      
 15 & 29/8/18; 12 & 26/9/18; 10/10/18;  - "We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time" email from USCIS  "We last took action on your case on 18 July 2018"    
23/3/18 - Interview & APPROVED!                                                                         16/10/18  - New card is being produced  (I-765) (text & email notification)
26/3/18 - Advanced Processing                                                                             17/10/18  - Approved Form I-131
27/3/18 - Issued                                                                                                        19/10/18  - Card was Mailed To Us ( I-765) (text notification)                          
3/4/18 - Visa in hand                                                                                                
20/10/18  - received hardcopy NOA's for I-765 & I-131 in mail
12/5/18 - POE                                                                                                            24/10/18 - received EAD/AP combo card in mail   

June 2018 - Wedding (L)                                                             7 & 21/11;5/12 2018;16 & 30/1/19; 27/2; 13/3; 8 & 22/5; 5 & 5 & 19/6 2019 -"We are still reviewing your case & there are no updates at this time" email from USCIS "We last took action on your case on 18 July 2018" 

                                                                                                                                     June 2019 - One Year Anniversary (L)   

                                                                                                                                    19/6/19   - 365 Days / 1 year since submitting AoS

                                                                                                                                      3/7/2019 -"We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time"  email from USCIS "We last took action on your case on 18 July 2018" 

                                                                                                                                     12/7/19  -  USCUS received renewal for EAD & AP; "received date" says 10/7/19   

                                                                                                                                    18/7/19   - Fingerprint Review was completed for I-765

                                                                                                                                     19/7/19   - received hardcopy NOA's for both EAD & AP 

                                                                                                                                     26/7/19   - received letter from USCIS that biometrics approved (didn't have to go again, this was from last years appt)
                                                                                                                                     04/9/19
   - husband rang USCIS about AP and requested expedite for AP

                                                                                                                                     04/9/19   - 15 minutes after checking the USCIS website where no change was listed, it said "Interview was scheduled".  Received email from USCIS later stating "Case Status: Testing & Interview" (438 days)

                                                                                                                                     05/9/19   - received text saying case was updated and to check website 
                                                                                                                                     09/9/19   - received USPS Informed Delivery that USCIS letter would arrive today & it was in the post. Rec'd email from USCIS requesting more info for expedite AP request. Faxed info back immediately. 

                                                                                                                     10/9/19   - rec'd approval for I131 renewal; 18/9-USCIS email "new card ordered"' 21/9 -"Card/Doc Production"; 23/9-2 ltrs in mail from USCIS, card mailed via USPS (text/email notifications for all)
                                                                                                                     25/9/19    - new EAD/AP card rec'd
                                                                                                                     17/10/19  - Interview in NYC
                                                                                                                                    7/11/19 -  email to check status online, finally "Case was Approved" and "New Card is Being Produced" on site.  App still not updated. 12/11/19 - card was mailed to us; 13/11/19 rec'd tracking number  
                                                                                                                                    15/11/19 - received Green Card in mail
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